advice for a new member

[astral flyer]

ok hi all hope this is in the right section. i have been trying to get out of body for about 3 months now, i have had some close one,s, examples are as follows. i was trying the target method about 2 months ago for about a week, nothing was really happening but my dreams were a lot more vivid and have been ever since and nothing was happening then one afternoon i fell asleep and woke to the buzzing i felt i was very close like the kind of feeling of just stepping into the unknown when i heard a woman crying and sobbing right next to me it put be off and that was the end of that. i kept trying but nothing really happened then i tryed the rope method which works well in a way as in i get more sensations very light buzzing on my body, i nearly done it again about a month and a half ago i woke to buzzing again on my body and was thinking shall i shant i then thought what the hell i tryed to stand but it was like slow motion and very dreamy and thats all i can remember. then about 1 month ago i woke and was out looking out the window i tryed to push my hand through which felt odd but kind of neeeded agian it was very dream like i tryed asking for clarity now but next thing i woke. one other thing about 3 weeks ago i woke with s.p and heard a female voice in my left ear very soft . hello. i seem to get astral sounds a lot. am i doing this right or am i missing something. and advice would be great. i am very sorry for my spelling. i cant get the spellcheck to work. thanks guys.

[Lumaza]

 Hello and Welcome Astral Flyer!

Are you doing it right, yes you are. It sounds like you have been successful already with your pursuit of OBEs. The first time you do it, you are so shocked and bewildered that you immediately find yourself back in your physical body. The first trips are kind of like a "sneak peek" of what's yet to come.

Szaxx says it is important to get as far away from your physical body as you can. Don't look back or even think of your physical body. that will send you back immediately as well. Try to "ground" yourself to the area you are. That means, touch things around you. Try to utilize your senses. What do you hear or smell, etc.? Also this is a great time to go to your "happy place". Everyone has one of these. It's the place that you have always fantasized about. Now you can go there for real.

Now in your Dreams, are you watching them or are you a "active participant" in them? When we first become aware in our Dreams many times we are watching the scenario like it's a movie screen. The fun begins once we are an active participant in them. Once you are Lucid you can take total control your actions, including changing the locale into another area. You can rescript them if you don't like the outcome. There are all kinds of fun things you can do in them. This is also known as projecting. If you know that your physical body is sleeping and lying safely in your bed and you are experiencing another realm, this is known as experiencing a "NPR" (Non Physical Reality). Which in turn is a projection.

Check out Szaxx's thread/Sticky here, it's very good. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

Actually while you are at it, check out all the Stickies in the section and on the this Forum period, they are excellent.

Lastly, I experience SP (Sleep Paralysis) often. I also find that I first feel like something is touching my legs, then I feel my legs lifting and the next thing I know I am jetting out of my body, down my hallway and out my patio window into another realm. Many times this other realm is completely different then this physical one. I don't do anything to "try" to exit. I just awaken in SP and "allow" what's going to happen, to happen. I use that word "allow" often because it's what you need to do. If you find yourself in a unfavorable situation, just think of your body and you will be home. It's kind of like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. All she needed to do was to click her heels together and say there is no place like home and instantly she was home. Could the World of OZ had been her own OBE? Hmmmmmm  

Here is a great Sticky by Bedeekin on the SP: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

Good luck!  

[astral flyer]

Thanks for your message great links by the way. I will keep you posted .Thank you

[astral flyer]

Hi again about the lucid dream thing, I dont get many I had one where I was talking to my partner at her work and I said to her we are out of body now then she said thats impossible I am at work. I thought I must be talking to her subconscious in some way then I woke. Thats about it really.  The rest of my dreams are just very vivid not lucid. I kind of feel I am bring given little tasters like a necessary slow process towards s full out of body. Can it happen this way? One other thing it seems a bit of a lonely path I know nobody who is in to this at all not even my partner.any one else feel that?

[Szaxx]

It's a unique ability not a lonely one. 50 years of being a lone traveller is great.
If anyone isn't in to it, so be it, its their loss. Just leave them to their small world, it may be all they can handle.
They'll never know, its their loss not ours.

[astral flyer]

Yes I guess that it true.  Please can I ask the best way to ask for a guides help in getting out, I understand barriers are there for a reason but people talk about being pulled out and stuff like that I have never been so lucky lol. I just feel I am ready now and its not just a fad. I have read countless books and had some results.  Am I expecting to much to quick? I just  want one fully aware obe not a dreamy muffled one.

[Szaxx]

When your bodily awareness has gone and the rushing noise thats heard by many is present, that's the earliest time to ask questions. If you can get into the 3D blackness, that's the best time to ask.
Create thoughts on what you want, words are not as powerful. To do this you put emotional feelings out by picturing what you want to occur and how it feels to be helped with your desires.
If you imagine the helpers speak another language and have the ability to know how you feel, this will help you and them both to understand each other.
This is why some methods suggest a safe area to want to go to. If you know a location, you can picture it and the helpers can see it too.
If your ready, they'll help you to get there or somewhere similar.

[astral flyer]

Ok thanks. So what is meant by 3d darkness?

[Szaxx]

You'd know when you get to that part on your journey lol.
You will find yourself floating in what feels like a giant cavern, the walls are grainy looking and look like gritty jelly. It's very peaceful and your thoughts control what you experience from here.
Monroes' F21 if you've read his books.

[astral flyer]

hi thanks for explaining.  Yes read his books amazing man. Uh oh another question sorry guys but I have been trying the staying awake falling asleep way. I get some sensation tingles.  Numbness but I get that load pop sound in the head but nothing happens I remain calm but it never goes any further.  I was looking through my posts its funny but when you write it all down it is like a puzzle being formed.  Maybe I should stop with the questions snd get on with it lol.

[Szaxx]

Here's something you can practice. It's what you're trying to do.
You can join if you wish to, the help is more on a one to one basis. There's many lessons to help in learning the art of projection.


http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/forums/how-to-phase-lesson-t754.html

[astral flyer]

Hi thanks I will give it a try. Will keep you posted

[astral flyer]

hi so gave the phasing thing a go tryed three times yesterday, first 2 times I fell asleep but the 3rd time was good, ish lol. So I went through the relaxed phase then managed to keep awareness then I became aware of 2 beings. They has 2 arms 2l egs but were blue and they had heads something like those things from that film pitch black with black eyes then there was a clicking sound and they turned and looked at me at exactly the same time then I came out of it. They did not seem negative or positive just neutral anyway I will take this as s good sign and keep trying.

[Szaxx]

Keep using it as it worked for you. You'll not know what environment you'll find yourself in and staying calm in your was good.
I don't know the movie but the title...
Well done.

[astral flyer]

Hi thanks will keep trying this method.  Last night I fell asleep trying but I have that memory of that feeling of those strange vibrations and going out but its like a distant dream. When I woke this morning I was very very tired so something happened lol. Is there s difference between phasing and projection or just different methods.

[Szaxx]

It's all pretty much the same, different roads, different directions for different locations sort of thing.
Some times you are driving and others it just occurs like being s driver or a passenger. Whatever method used you leave the physical world.

[Lumaza]

Is there s difference between phasing and projection or just different methods.

Phasing leads to projection.

Here is a example. Yesterday I was sitting at my computer. I looked out my window and saw approaching dark clouds. I closed my eyes and tried to reach out to them with my etheric hands. For some reason it felt like I was diving towards them. The visual I had, that I didn't intend on seeing, had my hands in the same "V' position that a person does while diving. I stayed with that and soon the scene just morphed into someone in front of me bouncing on a trampoline. I let my curiosity draw me even deeper and soon I felt the up and down motion that the person on the trampoline was experiencing. Soon that person was me. It was quite enjoyable.

So, in turn I used a imaginary intent, which led to a shift in my consciousness. There was no looking back or even thinking of my physical body at the time. I was completely engulfed in moment.

This happened really fast too. That's what happens when you keep up with daily practice. I "know" that it's ok to shift. I know there is no harm involved. Once you have this kind of knowing, you see that a projection is just a simple shift away.

Practice just "being" non physical. It doesn't take a lot of time. You could be sitting watching TV or at the computer and just simply close your eyes and reach out to your refrigerator, etc. handle with your etheric hand. Make it as real as you can. Once you can get the visual, try to get the feel of the handle. Exercises like that can be done any time. One of my favorites is using my etheric hand to reach out to a tree in my backyard, while sitting at the computer in my home. I feel the bark, then all of a sudden something shows up that I didn't intend on and I just watch as a full blown scene begins to arise.

Nowadays, many times when I just close my eyes I will see something already there. This took about 3-4 years of daily practice, patience and perseverance to achieve, but I believe everyone can get to this stage. That's if they really "allow" it to happen. To allow it, your conscious and subconscious must be on the same page. Daily practice helps you to align the two.

[astral flyer]

Thanks guys. So when you phase can you go down to real time and observe your body?

[Szaxx]

With years of experiences, you go straight into another environment. It can be similar to the physical and it can be nothing like the physical world we all know so well. It's not that interesting to see this world of ours. It's far better to be placed into an alternate reality where you have a challenge to overcome... or fail.
Phasing is quick, efficient and very effective when you've set yourself up correctly.

[Lumaza]

Thanks guys. So when you phase can you go down to real time and observe your body?

Sometimes it can start that way, but the scene normally changes. One second you can be looking at a tree here and the next you are speeding towards "destinations unknown". I never intend/try to see my physical body though. That is normally what knocks people out of their non physical focus. You don't ever want to focus back on your body, that's counterproductive, unless you are attempting to do some kind of healing. But with that, you normally just use a image of a form of a body and focus on your name.

Phasing bypasses the "need" to exit the physical body. Phasing is a shift in consciousness that can be performed almost instantaneously. But like Szaxx says, that comes with years of practice.

[astral flyer]

yes it makes sense. I understand now you do not need to force it the intent is enough.

[astral flyer]

Ok this sounds stupid but been trying the phasing and I seem to notice that if I watch tv before I start to feel like the character even feel like I look like them is this crazy or is this just very bad focus?  This happens just when I start to drift off.

[Szaxx]

You're focussed on something not physical, it sounds good. It's different but it is focus.

[astral flyer]

yes i see. I find it very hard to stay awake when i practice just practice I guess. Just out of interest how many in the world can go out of body in the world at will? In one of monroe s books its mentioned it is about 5 000 just interested to see how much its changed in 30 odd years.

[Szaxx]

Practice makes perfect, this applies to almost anything in life.

Project at will and go to the RTZ or project at will and go to any NP environment?
The latter is easy, the RTZ is where beginners tend to find themselves. I find it very difficult to get into the RTZ, I have to travel many millions of miles and then it's sketchy.
I'm not a beginner anymore it seems lol.