I know how to make a person who doesn't believe in obes believe!

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All you have to do is when they are out of body get close and say the words "i use my telepathy to wake my friend out of body know!" Also try to mean it.Intent is everything!:-)Also be gentle about it.Also if anyone is wondering were i got the "telepathy now!" part it was inspired from the book adventures beyond the body by william buhlman.