Do OBEs prove the existence of the afterlife?

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recoverer

Hello:

Do OBEs prove the existence of the afterlife? I've had a lot of spiritual experiences including OBEs, and I'm quite certain that the afterlife exists.

The impression I get is that many people consider NDEs to be a bigger proof for the afterlife than OBEs. People are more inclined to say that OBEs are nothing more than a hallucination or dream. Going by how my OBEs have played out, they are proof.

Have any of you had OBEs in a way where you believe they proved the existence of the afterlife? 

Albert


Positive3

For me NDE is just one of the exit techniques let's say so lol

desert-rat

On after life proof . If you met a ghost , some one you did not know in life , and they gave you details about them , as Robert Monroe wrote of in his books . Some one you could check the details later . Lets say Joe and Jane Miller owned the home you now live in at 1234 Oak st. ect.  This would be proof to the person that met the ghost some one else could just say they made it up . 

recoverer

Right, a technique I haven't experienced and that I prefer not to experience.

Quote from: Positive3 on March 04, 2016, 04:40:59
For me NDE is just one of the exit techniques let's say so lol

recoverer

I get what you're saying. I've received information from spirits that I was able to verify later. I live in California, on three different occasions I was told ahead of time that an earthquake would take place and on each occasion one did take place. By ahead of time I mean right before.

One of the reasons I believe that OBEs are probably valid spirit world experiences, is because during some of my OBEs a guide was present (I didn't see this guide, perhaps my higher self), and these OBEs were learning experiences that served a purpose.

Quote from: desert-rat on March 04, 2016, 12:56:06
On after life proof . If you met a ghost , some one you did not know in life , and they gave you details about them , as Robert Monroe wrote of in his books . Some one you could check the details later . Lets say Joe and Jane Miller owned the home you now live in at 1234 Oak st. ect.  This would be proof to the person that met the ghost some one else could just say they made it up . 

desert-rat

Being warned of an earthquake would be useful,but not necessarily proof of an afterlife. In the late 1800s or early 1900s a very smart man died. He gave pieces of info to different psychics all over the world that did not know each other. It was only when they got together that they knew where the information came from.

recoverer

In each case a voice told me that an earthquake was going to take place.

Quote from: desert-rat on March 04, 2016, 19:29:11
Being warned of an earthquake would be useful,but not necessarily proof of an afterlife. In the late 1800s or early 1900s a very smart man died. He gave pieces of info to different psychics all over the world that did not know each other. It was only when they got together that they knew where the information came from.

desert-rat

An earth quake warning is more likely coming from a higher order being .  Proof of an after life would be info on a life .  One would need to meet up with a ghost while out of body , get e.v.p. , or some form of comunation from a once living person .  If a ghost that you did not know while alive gave you info that you could look up , that would be proof to you .   

recoverer

I don't consider one incident in isolation. I consider what many experiences have shown me, and one thing they have shown me is that sometimes a spirit being will speak to me with a voice. It could've been a higher level being such as my higher self. When I say higher self I mean in an oversoul kind of way, because going by what I've experienced and found out, they exist in such a way.



Quote from: desert-rat on March 05, 2016, 12:31:11
An earth quake warning is more likely coming from a higher order being .  Proof of an after life would be info on a life .  One would need to meet up with a ghost while out of body , get e.v.p. , or some form of comunation from a once living person .  If a ghost that you did not know while alive gave you info that you could look up , that would be proof to you .   

Szaxx

I can't count the fore warnings I've received. After attempting to save many lives by disclosing the info to authorities only to be threatened with an incarceration in a nuthouse.  Thousands died as a result of these few idiots. This started in the 70's.
I switch them off now once they appear.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

desert-rat

Proof of an after life and proof of   higher order beings are 2 different things .  I believe in both .

FuzzyQuills

Quote from: Szaxx on March 06, 2016, 12:39:46
I can't count the fore warnings I've received. After attempting to save many lives by disclosing the info to authorities only to be threatened with an incarceration in a nuthouse.  Thousands died as a result of these few idiots. This started in the 70's.
I switch them off now once they appear.
This. The specific reason why the government should listen. ;)
This world's Captain Falcon; A title I will pass down to a chosen one when I leave this dimension.

desert-rat

It is said that the n.s.a. is the only branch of the US gov. that listens.

Tongo

Quote from: Szaxx on March 06, 2016, 12:39:46
I can't count the fore warnings I've received. After attempting to save many lives by disclosing the info to authorities only to be threatened with an incarceration in a nuthouse.  Thousands died as a result of these few idiots. This started in the 70's.
I switch them off now once they appear.

Seems legit.

PlasmaAstralProjection

Quote from: Szaxx on March 06, 2016, 12:39:46
I can't count the fore warnings I've received. After attempting to save many lives by disclosing the info to authorities only to be threatened with an incarceration in a nuthouse.  Thousands died as a result of these few idiots. This started in the 70's.
I switch them off now once they appear.
What's that saying. "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." At first I thought this was totally inappropriate, but considering they could have put you in a nuthouse, then yes this fits perfectly.  :wink:

Szaxx

Too many are scared of the unknown. That and anything to prove those who know it all that they are wrong.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.