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Positive3

Greetings , so basiclly my question is if you believe in Entities like:


  • Guardian Angels
  • Basic Higher Beings (Angels)
  • Demons

What i mean here is like sometimes i saw answers like if u see for example an angel or whatever in your AP it just part of your mind created to assist you something like that, so my question is if u believe in higher beings which are by themselfs not our imagination and if yes how you think can they interacct with out daily life?

Xanth

My perspective is that those things are as separate and individual from us as you are from me.

When you take consciousness as a whole (look at it from the perspective of "we are one"), then you realize that there is no separation... there is no individualism, it's all part of the illusion.
This ALSO means that those "entities" which we think are "separate" and "outside" us... aren't.  They're just another aspect of consciousness as a whole interacting with itself in an effort to grow.

Positive3

Maybe i haven't realised "The one" perspective yet or your opinion but i think there is still difference i mean yes it's one Consciousness, but u know at same time i know what u say but like if this being already existed before i imagined it so i am not the reason of his existence if u get what i mean : P

Xanth

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Quote from: Positive3 on March 08, 2016, 13:53:51
Maybe i haven't realised "The one" perspective yet or your opinion but i think there is still difference i mean yes it's one Consciousness, but u know at same time i know what u say but like if this being already existed before i imagined it so i am not the reason of his existence if u get what i mean : P
No, you haven't realized it.  Hell, even people who say they've realize it don't ACTUALLY realize it.  

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2013/09/23/everything-is-consciousness-analyzing-lucid-dreaming-and-astral-projection-from-the-perspective-of-consciousness/

Think larger than that.  Your "bit" of illusory individual consciousness didn't create "that other entity"... it arose out of the whole of consciousness.  The same consciousness that YOU rose out of.  We're all one small perspective of the whole.
Just like the wave arises OUT OF the ocean, you (and everything you experience) arises OUT OF consciousness.  The wave isn't separate from the ocean.  

To me, that's why it's silly to make all these separations... because in the end, they're nothing but illusion anyway, so why focus so intently on them?

Bloodshadow

If that is the case that we are one, then if we change our self, then we change the whole right? But that doesn't seem the case here, maybe in the astral/spiritual we are one but here we are individuals, who have no effect on each other when we change ourselves. Again this is just my perspective on the matter

Xanth

Quote from: Bloodshadow on March 08, 2016, 18:25:53
If that is the case that we are one, then if we change our self, then we change the whole right? But that doesn't seem the case here, maybe in the astral/spiritual we are one but here we are individuals, who have no effect on each other when we change ourselves. Again this is just my perspective on the matter
This physical reality is as much an "astral/spiritual" reality as any which you actively project or dream to.  There's, literally, no difference between "here" and "there". 

You know the saying that you can't change the world, you can only change yourself.
You might not understand the concept now, but you *WILL* realize it to be true on day and apply it to your life.

I have NO DOUBT of that what-so-ever.  :)

Bloodshadow

All I'm saying is it is much harder here in this physical reality to be one and make the changes like in the spiritual reality. It more easier to be more excepting in the spiritual reality then here, but experiencing the spiritual side can change that perspective drastically, but til then it's hard.

Positive3

Xanth, i want to hear your opinion about them interacting with our daily life like giving hints and so on like numbers or stuff like that

Bluefirephoenix

I kinda had an interesting insight on this as late. In fact this week. I think it's worth looking into and it's kinda fun to play with too.

Basically what I think is going on is that we live in a hologram. It's tight and causual focus will not change the appearance of the hologram.. However, its not made SOOOOO tight that it cannot be broken.  I found 4 ways this can happen so far.  These are physical mediumship where the medium is possesssed by a spirit and bends a few rules in a darkened room. http://felixcircle.blogspot.ca/,   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qSEi_sfaSU


The second way to break through and crack the shell that seems effective are the CE-5 experiments. It was one of these researchers that finally got a clue as to what was going on.  The CE-5 and physical mediumship are exactly the same thing except the context is different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDq8fPpkJQ



The third method I discovered yesterday. Telekinesis.  THere are some very impressive videos out there. I would be skeptical except I took their techniques and figured out how to do a little bit of what they're doing in about 10 minutes.  It is surprisingly easy, especially the weather... I was playing with the clouds and winds all day yesterday. A couple times can be coincidence but after about 20 tries it kinda goes beyond that possibility......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsm1cpLxXJs&index=1&list=PL6SKLQFyZo7KhBjjODufI_LXN1zpqCEpd  ( there is a jump scare in this video be aware)  I put together a good playlist and will continue to play with it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCtcj8adetfw9bHSlRY2zr-ftwaDBSlL5

THe last way is a way that I've not messed with too much. It's making what is called a servitor. It's an entity that is generated by a person that can perform various functions in spirit. In tradition they served as messangers between the people trained to use them, watchdogs ... especially over buried treasure, and healing.  I think most demons are this sort of entity. They can be generated by a group of trained people, and  persist as long as they are given energy. They behave according to the expectations of those who perceive them. The conjuring or evocation as it's properly called to be an " egg cracker" needs to generate a physcial and audio perception.


Many angels also fit into this catagory. There are probably some aliens who do as well but I think it's pretty well established that there are other intelligent races interacting physically with earth. So think there is more of a mix when you are talking about ET's  It's possible that demons and angels are ET in origin and just a primitive explanation for something the people of that time could not understand.

I think the best way to explore this is by doing. The only one I wouldn't recommend right off is making a servitor. It's kind of a tricky thing to do and if you are not psychically developed to where you can see and hear spirits, you cannot control them easily.   Being able to scry and having a medimistic communication ability that is well developed and tested on blind targets with feedback to ensure accuracy is recommended before initiating that practice.  There are no videos on this and very very few people who are trained.

THe main principle I'm looking at here is the generation of physical phenomenon from non physical means. This demonstrates the principle that everything is consciousness.  It is not enough to mentally understand this. You need to have the experience in order for your focus and beliefs to truely change and your absorbtion of the truth to be complete.  In each case we have an entity that serves as a guide to direct you towards two things. Love and cracking the shell of reality. Astral projection helps but it does not really change belief to the extent necessarily. It still comes from a binary duplistic system  belief and is therefore imperfect. When you can merge the astral with the physical and control this merging then you are beginning to understand the true nature of the universe we live in.

Have fun this stuff is a total blast.

Bluefirephoenix

I want to add the context of the CE5, telekinisis and physcial mediumship is mostly just to help the transition to belief. The phenomenon generated is identical.  You do not need a darkened room with loud music or to do a special meditation to call the ET's from the sky or go on a vegan diet with 5 hours of qigong a day to do these things. Be careful of the periphery that goes along with it. Pick what helps you believe and discard the rest.

oh yea the generation of the servitor is probably the most expensive junk there is. Don't spend money on stuff you don't need. It's better to work with just your consciousness. If you get stuck use your intuition instead of looking at expensive programs  toys or food.  I would suggest learning to dowse.  ( I don't even buy my own pendulums anymore, I find I can make ones that work better for me.)

One of those videos advertises a program that you have to pay 195 a month to participate in. I would strongly stay away from that From what I can tell everything is pretty freely available. There isn't much literature in English on telekinisis. It's one of those things that I think you have to practice until you figure it out.

Xanth

Quote from: Bloodshadow on March 09, 2016, 00:39:54
All I'm saying is it is much harder here in this physical reality to be one and make the changes like in the spiritual reality. It more easier to be more excepting in the spiritual reality then here, but experiencing the spiritual side can change that perspective drastically, but til then it's hard.
That's just it... it's not much harder.  It's just not as "direct" or "obvious", but that doesn't equate to "difficulty".  Difficulty is in how you approach it or your perspective regarding it.
Why is that?  Because you have this huge divide between "here" and "there", while I see them as two sides of the same coin... well, even that's wrong, they're two sides of a one sided coin.  ;)

Quote from: Positive3 on March 09, 2016, 06:31:50
Xanth, i want to hear your opinion about them interacting with our daily life like giving hints and so on like numbers or stuff like that
I take the same kind of position on their interaction with us as Tom Campbell does.
The "hints" we get throughout our lives is "the system" trying to guide and help us grow.
Take "spirit guides" for example... they're not these "entities" who just hang around waiting for you to talk to them or waiting for you to make a mistake or require a nudge... they're simply an "interface" you have with the system.  That's probably a great way to describe them... they're an "interface".