I'm grrla

[grrla]

Inm grrla, in my early 20's

I'm here to motivate myself to learn to project at will
I did it only once after many months of trials with no structurated method

My new plan is to train myself to stay as long as possible in the hypnogogic state to then be able to project.
I naturally was able to stay some minutes on the hypnogogic state when i was a teen, I could listen to full non-sense conversations or to listen music (at very strong volume and best quality ever, painlessly. My physical ears would hurt, and no headphone could produce a such good quality)

Nowadays I can enter it at will but not very deeply, I can create some body vibration at will too, even outdoor during the day if I'm sit and relaxed
But it far from an actual ability to project at will

So... Hello everyone. I hope to be able to see you in the astral world soon

[Szaxx]

Hi and welcome to the Pulse.
You've got most of the basics already done so hopefully the rest will be easy.
Where you can listen/create music etc is 3/4 of the way there. If you have totally disconnected from the physical world senses the rest is focus and intent without falling asleep lol.

[grrla]

Thanks 

I tried  on previous  night, and I was able to hear a voice for a second or two, then my mind became aware of a deeply senseless illogical scenario: there was a kid drawing squares on a big glass (like a glass of wine), and then he drew dots insides the squares, each square had a very specific number of dots, this was important for him (yay ... lol)

I will try again this night

[EscapeVelocity]

Welcome grrla,

Working with the hypnogogia can be fun and frustrating!

Your experience last night makes me think that you have already progressed into a slightly more complex testing sequence. I am also unsure of the illogical nature of your first event, maybe it is just to get your attention. Ask for a clarifying experience or the next lesson, and I am confident you will get it!

A clue based on my understanding- You are wanting an OBE, but your Guide(s) may want you to explore a few preliminary tests, first...go with the tests...and you will be rewarded!

EV

[grrla]

I like your idea to ask for a clarifying experience
I tried yesterday night, by visualising a big "?" and trying to replay the scene with the kid, but it did not result in anything interesting. At some point I was able to get in the hypnogogic state and got lost in some blurry thoughts.

But it was after a party and my mind wasn't clear enough, I think I will get better results after the weekend

[grrla]

So, what I have been doing to help me to hear music in the hypnagogic state was to listen again and again and again to the same album ("all eyez on me" from 2pac)

It is the afternoon here, and as I was feeling sleepy and haven't much things to do, I decided to try to get hypnogogia with a nap
It worked notably better than at night

I was trying to actively create some music with my mind, then there is the song "shorty wanna be a thug" which was apparently well remembered by my mind, that started to play

Then I become aware of the following scene: I'm in the front of a building, the main door is closed and opaque, it look a bit gettho-ish, old...
Behind the door there is a kid who was going to get beaten by his father, because this kid was "playing to act like a thug". I try to break the door to rescue the kid but it doesn't work.

Then the kid appear on the top of the building, he is yelling at me to get my attention, something like " waaiiii" 2 or 3 time
The last "waaaaiii" was clearly a "waaaiiit"  and I could hear it very clearly, and this "awaken" me (got me out of the hypnogogic state)

Do you think it have a special signification, EV (or anyone else) ?

[EscapeVelocity]

With regard to your dreams and even these brief 'dreamlets' that occur in and around hypnogogia, any significance can really only be determined by you. Most of this material is pulled from your subconscious.

I will point out that these episodes are showing you Dream Triggers, opportunities to become lucid and turn a dream into a Lucid Dream.

HTH

I will add that paying attention to our LDs, both to the overall context and to the particulars can give us great insight into our own individual personalities and issues that need work...sometimes it can become a bit uncomfortable. On top of all that are the really fun opportunities for self-expression...

[grrla]

You did talk about guides and tests, and now it is only my subconscious I'm a bit disappointed
But indeed, I was able to see my mind modulate some part of my experience

I will train myself to trigger these mini-dreams more often and try to remember to become lucid. I have read I'm mean to "jump/penetrate" the scene, to project directly into it.

My main goal is to understand the how and why the life and existence

[EscapeVelocity]

Some projectors have ongoing contact and relationships with what they term as a Guide. I have not had a direct experience like that, but I have met what I believe are independent beings and had communications in other instances that I clearly recognized as some kind of guidance. In some of these instances it could be my Higher Self or Inner Self; I admit that I am unsure and can only remain open to a variety of possibilities.

My reference to some of the material that makes up our individual experiences seems to me to definitely get pulled from our subconscious and memory. That's why we encounter certain situations and certain characters that can serve as more intimate metaphors and insights within our experiences. It actually works really well as a finely-tuned teaching system. That's not to say it is ALL from the subconscious. As I have shared with other projectors, I have found a surprising number of similar experiences between us that points almost to a standard 'curriculum' of NP learning.

Ultimately, I look at it this way: I am not so much concerned with the how and why and where the material comes from. Every experience/environment has one or more lessons for me to learn and if I can find value in that learning then the experience is valid and worthwhile.

I hope that gives some further ideas.

[grrla]

Yesterday I did go in hypnagogia while asking mentally if I should continue to use this technique, or use the body of light instead. Along with "which path should I follow in my life"
At a moment a voice answered/said "I have no idea"
Ok thanks dear guide, 

After this, I try to stay still
I focus, on what I don't know, but I am focusing on something
I get some hypno-jerk, then my body start tingling, the sense of hearing fade away, then I can feel I have 4 arms
This freak me out and it put me back to the physical plane
I do a reality check (clogging my nose with my fingers and blowing), my I'm indeed in the physical reality

I'm happy of the whole thing, but hope to be able to go deeper in the astral next time

If you have any advice I'll read them carefully