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Vanessa

When do you people the big masses will begin to wake up to higher knowledge such as astral projection? Also how much do you think people will end up on this site
and how much information will they get from here? I know myself in 2012-2013 I usually ended up here, thus I created an account after a while.

Phildan1

Never :) Did you live enough to find that out? I guess not. Humanity is nowhere near to learn about this, only maybe some thousands or tens of thousands of people. People don't care about this "paranormal" stuff and religious. Do you think that the most with low level of consciousness even care about AP or dreams? Not really. They rush to work or stay in self-abusement, robbing banks, shooting, lying, doing what others are saying. No way. Indeed there is a big movement these decades but it is an unfounded goal. People just want to live and get by, trying to keep up with the system. If some people learn about this, it is from popularity and fashion and not because they are ready for anything or they will learn a thing.

Humanity was always like that if we search back in time, we are still in the dark ages where people are totally lost. Only the tools and forms are different. I don't think so that normal or high awareness entities are living human life mostly. But well, there are many who are more aware. I guess it is hard to measure it. For example millions know and learned some way of meditation but it is only for them to elevate stress and stay alive. Maybe following some rituals which is told or about what they read.
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Nameless

I agree with Phil. People will wake up but most of them just aren't there yet, they are currently living out other needs so their time is not now. For the rest of us well there really isn't much we can do except keep on living and thinking and putting together what we can.

The sort of sad thing is that once 'we' do reach those higher levels/planes/dimensions/consciousnesses etc we will find ourselves right back on the bottom of the next level up or sideways or whichever direction. LOL

But that is just how it is at least for now with my current knowledge.

Volgerle

I wish there was a "shift" in consciousness going on and again a few more people would come her like it was due to the 2012 craze years ago. I do not see it happen fast, maybe over decades. I mean if you compare today to years or decades ago maybe sth happened indeed. But I also see the opposite happening. Materialism and fake skepticism still has its grip on society and TPTB and the education system and mass media hypnotising the people with this fake philosophy don't want that to change. So no, I don't see it happening right now.  :cry:

Lumaza

 I agree with all of you here. It was take a "Event" that couldn't be ignored to create a change in the populace. It would have to be something so big, that it single handedly "creates" that change itself. The problem would be, acclimating to that new change. We experiencers here already "know" that there is something outside the "veil". There could come a time where "we" are called upon to help out, not just "we" here on the Astral Pulse. I mean we, as in, all like minded good natured beings.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

LightBeam

Just like in school you can't skip grades, same here. It will not be in the masses benefit to force this awakening, as most still NEED this level to continue experiencing and learning. There ALWAYS be a need of this kind of limited reality as a school ground. Not to worry, everything is exactly as it needs to be. On individual level though each person perceives this world differently according to individual level of awakening. That s ok with me as I can see clearly what each person I interact with needs to learn. I provide hints into the right direction, but never force my philosophy as only their own experience can lead them to absolute understanding. So their life events must provide them with circumstances through which they can learn. If this world awakens and becomes perfect there will be no point of it's lower frequency existence anymore. It may happen though before the invisible law of physics destroys it by our sun dying or sudden climate change, however, i have come to terms that in the multiverse there will always be lower limiting realities existing for a long long time allowing intensive learning. Take it as a blessing in disguise.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

baro-san

Quote from: LightBeam on October 20, 2018, 02:02:17
Just like in school you can't skip grades, same here. It will not be in the masses benefit to force this awakening, as most still NEED this level to continue experiencing and learning. There ALWAYS be a need of this kind of limited reality as a school ground. Not to worry, everything is exactly as it needs to be. On individual level though each person perceives this world differently according to individual level of awakening. That s ok with me as I can see clearly what each person I interact with needs to learn. I provide hints into the right direction, but never force my philosophy as only their own experience can lead them to absolute understanding. So their life events must provide them with circumstances through which they can learn. If this world awakens and becomes perfect there will be no point of it's lower frequency existence anymore. It may happen though before the invisible law of physics destroys it by our sun dying or sudden climate change, however, i have come to terms that in the multiverse there will always be lower limiting realities existing for a long long time allowing intensive learning. Take it as a blessing in disguise.

It's kind of what I believe too. Which means that we aren't here for the betterment of humanity.
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"Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider."
- Sir Francis Bacon

Lumaza

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Quote from: LightBeam on October 20, 2018, 02:02:17
Just like in school you can't skip grades, same here. It will not be in the masses benefit to force this awakening, as most still NEED this level to continue experiencing and learning. There ALWAYS be a need of this kind of limited reality as a school ground. Not to worry, everything is exactly as it needs to be. On individual level though each person perceives this world differently according to individual level of awakening. That s ok with me as I can see clearly what each person I interact with needs to learn. I provide hints into the right direction, but never force my philosophy as only their own experience can lead them to absolute understanding. So their life events must provide them with circumstances through which they can learn.
That right there is why I always feel like a "Observer" here in this reality. I find many times that, even though I somehow "know" what is going on in this person's like, no matter how bad it is. I must still "watch" it occur. Case in point, MJ's cancer dilemma of years ago. I saw the signs, but wasn't allowed to "intervene". It was up to her to decide whether she wanted to stay/live or go/transition over. Right now I have a good friend that is "deteriorating" more and more every day. I have reached out to help him, to try to heal him, but when I do, I find "obstacles" and diversions that tell me that he is okay with what is occurring on some level. In this physical mindset and level, he is not okay with it and is fighting it tooth and nail. It's hard to watch that for so many reasons!  :cry:

QuoteIf this world awakens and becomes perfect there will be no point of it's lower frequency existence anymore. It may happen though before the invisible law of physics destroys it by our sun dying or sudden climate change, however, i have come to terms that in the multiverse there will always be lower limiting realities existing for a long long time allowing intensive learning. Take it as a blessing in disguise.
My biggest question with all this talk of a "Event" has always been "What happens next"? Do we just sit around, hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" all day, lol!  :-D

We are physical beings here and barring some kind of "dimensional shift", that occurs immediately, we still have to live under these physical "rulesets".

I have always believed this is a "School" where we learn to "experience" and "evolve". The good, bad and ugly are all experiences. But truthfully, it's the bad and ugly, trials and tribulations that hold our true lessons and teachings. ...and yes Love is important, but it is one of those "experiences".
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Nameless

It's definitely a school, if it wasn't intended that way then it's the most real accidental school possible at this level. But I do believe it was intended. I'm with Volgerle on this, I would love for IT to just happen already but we know that wouldn't be sound.

LightBeam I would absolutely love to know what you see as the lesson here for me. It's sort of amazing I haven't asked already. Of course you don't have to answer if you don't want or you can pm if you think I might not want to share it here.

LightBeam

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Baro-san, yes and no. We are meant to interact with other consiousness not only like species but not knowingly we actually interact with animals, plants, rocks, Earth itself, etc. However, we strive to help each other and evolve to better ourselves as a whole, but on the other hand as individual beings we can't interfere as much as we can to learn something for others and remove the load for them, because it won't be beneficial for them. But we have to try, this comes automatically when we posess unconditional love. There are spirit guides and the source itself always provides help, but one can only receive it when the level of knowledge has been accumulated enough. This is a complex thing but this is how the multiverse rolls per my observations and AP experiences. So we strive to better humanity out of love and care, but we have to recognize when certain things must be experienced and left to happen for the sake of learning.

Lumaza, it is extremely hard to watch a loved one, or friends suffer. We have to try to help, but in the end through all that pain from compassion, we have to understand.

Nameless, I can only tell needed lessons if I know some information about their lives. I would love to get together in person with anyone here and chat about whatever. If anyone is interested, I travel sometimes all over the country for business, and I can make stops to meet. That would be so much fun. But out of pure intuition, Nameless, I think your lessons are to truly realise your power and some gifts that you have to discover that you can use to help others. Healing is one of them.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Phildan1

Quote from: Lumaza on October 20, 2018, 03:01:28
That right there is why I always feel like a "Observer" here in this reality. I find many times that, even though I somehow "know" what is going on in this person's like, no matter how bad it is. I must still "watch" it occur. Case in point, MJ's cancer dilemma of years ago. I saw the signs, but wasn't allowed to "intervene". It was up to her to decide whether she wanted to stay/live or go/transition over. Right now I have a good friend that is "deteriorating" more and more every day. I have reached out to help him, to try to heal him, but when I do, I find "obstacles" and diversions that tell me that he is okay with what is occurring on some level. In this physical mindset and level, he is not okay with it and is fighting it tooth and nail. It's hard to watch that for so many reasons!  :cry:

 My biggest question with all this talk of a "Event" has always been "What happens next"? Do we just sit around, hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" all day, lol!  :-D

We are physical beings here and barring some kind of "dimensional shift", that occurs immediately, we still have to live under these physical "rulesets".

I have always believed this is a "School" where we learn to "experience" and "evolve". The good, bad and ugly are all experiences. But truthfully, it's the bad and ugly, trials and tribulations that hold our true lessons and teachings. ...and yes Love is important, but it is one of those "experiences".

I have a close family member (and many other people whom I know well, that these people are abusing themselves and suffering on purpose. I've learned that I should stop interfering or trying to help them. You just can't, you try it and it backfires. They want to suffer and you need to watch it. The only option is to leave them alone because they are slowly or not learning about what they are doing to themselves or to us. So indeed we have our own path and we can't do so much.

The thing with this mass awakening thing is that we can influence billions on a small scale and indeed something is happening since a while but not the way I guess it should work out. It is very slow and I think the only effect it has is that billions who never had the chance to realize who they are in other lifetimes or have the chance to get out from a mind cage, now they can. The opportunity is there. I think people like us only can show the signs like guides and that's all. Who would like to learn and know more does it in other lives too I guess. It is about mindset and maybe some kind of evolutionary stage. I don't blame humanity but for the most it is very true that they are just coming to a school but they don't realize it. Places like Earth is needed in this sense which I agree on. Not everybody is good in understanding like those who are LDing or APing and finding out endlessly more than a normal human being who is just going to work and addicted from dramas. This is a lonely path.
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Vanessa

I feel like things are moving forward though. Btw is MJ supposed to be Michael Jackson or what?

Nameless

LOL, MJ is Lumaza's other or better half as they say.

LightBeam

Phildan,  yes it could be a lonely path, but I have learned to look at this crazy world as an adventure, like an action movie. I forgot to mention the optimistic side of my view on this reality, as I am a great optimist and positive thinker
I see the good side of everything even through all the surface ugliness.  Just compare the cave men time to today. Compare the time of endless wars throughout the world with today s most peaceful times of all history. Look at human rights achievement. Spirituality is at its highest now. So we are evolving . Slowly, yes, but moving forward one step at a time. There is room of many levels of enlightenment to come before this reality looses its purpose. I believe we are getting there.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Volgerle

Quote from: LightBeam on October 20, 2018, 18:13:40
Compare the time of endless wars throughout the world with today s most peaceful times of all history.

I find this debatable or literally not debatable for that matter because we don't know enough of very ancient prehistoric times in many regions of Earth.

I've read accounts about e.g. pre-historic times in Europe where all were farming and trading peoples tribes with enough natural resources around them and that there is no sign of war and violence found by archeologists at all. For maybe even thousands of years.

So I would not be too sure about this being the most peaceful time. Moreover since today is not peacful in most parts of the world. We in the West live in our tiny reality bubble. And for a few decades now we have weapons of mass destruction and modern developments of the military of all kinds that is actually very frightening. War is business, too.

Yes, we also have achievements for sure, but it is all in all a very mixed bag for me.
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