WIFE AND SUICIDE - HOW TO FIND HER?

[loco]

Sorry about it Kamil,
...try reading next´s page topic called:"GO AWAY DAMN YOU" from Psi.In it,there is a very nice and loooong post from MAYATNIK.I recomend it.
Luck !

[Frère]

I would not advise you to disturb the path of your wife in other realms. She should better be helped by the one who are intended to. Now if the problem is your own questions, rather ask them to your guardian angel, and tell your guardian angel you want the heavens to help your wife go free from the suicide tourments... it will help her much better than trying to have an argument with her in the astral or watever plane she's in right now!

[James S]

Hello Kamil, welcome to the forum.

First of all my deepest sympathies to you and your families for this terrible loss.

My wife read your message over my shoulder. She lost her mother in a car accident some years ago, and a little while after a good friend introduced to a very talented clairaudient medium who helped her get back in touch with her mother.

My wife wanted me to pass on to you some info she thought might be of value. Firstly she asked how long ago did your wife die?

The medium told her that when a person dies, in many cases their spirits pass into an area that the medium described as a kind of resting place. During this time, unless that spirit has some important message to give, or something important they need to do, they cannot be reached until they are ready to come away from this resting place. After that time there should be a good chance of being able to reach them.

If you have an opportunity to see a skilled and GENUINE medium, see them first. As you are very much emotionally involved with this situation, and if you do manage to be able to travel into the astral, you risk a high chance that your emotional state will affect what you see, and lead you to form conclusions that are false. In this situation it would be good to first put such a task in the hands of someone who will not have an emotional attachement.

I do wish you all the best in your search for your wifes spirit, and I hope that both of you can find peace.

Kind regards,
James.

[kamil]

She committed suicide 2 days ago. I found her first - in our apartment, in the bathroom. Could anybody give me a contact to somebody who is able to help me? She wrote me a letter which contains several things which absolutely convinced me to find her somewhere on the other side.

She wrote that she will observe me, and that she will wait for me there. I would like to help her, because i believe that people which commited a suicide are "blocked" somewhere near us...

I dont know how to do it...

[Chiron]

Kamil,

I am so sorry to hear about your loss.  My condolensces to you.  

I wish I knew the answers you were looking for.  Good luck in your search.

C

[Frère]

I am very much touched by your story kamil. You even make me think your case is different than the usual RULE that forbids, even if it is possible, to interact directly and without consent of some beings of light with dead people. Think about it! you're not alone with her in this universe, your story have taken you to an end where you obviously will have to discover all that lies in the invisible. First of all you should take your time, because this is all still VERY fresh. Emotions are no good at all when it comes to these kind of experience, they might become much unwanted if not observed and if possible, controlled. Don't rush into invisible you might loose your own path, and if you're lost, you'll be of no help. I insist that you should trust that lightness might help you if you start feeling very bad about all that. But I suggest first of all to accept that there is a temporary wall between you and your wife, and that trying to cross it will only drive you mad. Publish here what motivates you so much in this letter, it might be interesting. If you first find some guide in the Astral, averything might be much more simpler then. I think you are the kind of people who seem to need guides more than everything else... ask for them with your whole soul and they'll help you do what must be done.

Read the posting about retreival (type retreival in the search) in this posting we can read about a person who during astral projection contacted a suicided man and introduced him to the "helper" that could guide him out of where he was blocked. But you see, she was not of this man's family, and could help him surely because of the distance she had with the whole story.

[kamil]

The most important thing for me is the fact that she wrote about waiting for me, because she love me so much.

She also wrote that SHE GAVE HER LIFE FOR ME.

She knows that she will be punished for this act and i think that is the most terrible thing..

I know what do You mean about emotions and distractions. But this is stronger than me - than mine dexterity from stopping myself before these steps - steps to find her.

I think that if i would know that i am able to communicate with her - my life would be better - i would be sure...

[Frère]

I can't quite undestand how a bride could come across the idea that a suicide will be a good wedding present, and write faithfully that she gives her life to her man... this sounds quida twisted doesn't it... I would apreciate to be given the details that led to such strange event.

For sure you are able to send her all kind of thought you want, and if you pray that she receive them, be sure she will... you might even get some response in dream. Anyway, I tried these methods for the living, and believe me: it works perfectly well, in that physical plane and in all plane above and below. You are not caged in physical, everyone will tell you this. But just act carefully, and wonder first: what is this all about? Why such thing in my life? What higher powers want to let me know, and where is what I have to Learn.

[kamil]

I know what You mean about that "what I have learn" - its obvious signal that something is directing me to a correct "path".

That's my tragedy - i dont know the reason itself. She passed up all exams in the college, she finished the driver's license course, she day after tomorrow had to go on the dancing camp. we were preparing the procedures to live from Poland to NZ, starting to prepare the plans for building the recreation complex - with horses etc.. that what about the physical matters.

What about relationships - it was - how always - sometimes good, sometimes bad, but always we got a solutions. Its several other important cases - her father... also committed a suicide.

I dont know anything about the strange coincidences, but ive noticed that everything is spinning around the number 11. It sounds "abnormally", but how would You comment that?

1. her grave has number 11
2. today i open the bag with her father stuff - i found a watch - normally it was 12:10, but that what showed up 11:20
3. in the church we got a term - 11.30
4. ive born 11.10.1977
5. she committed suicide 11 months after her father
6. she died 18.07.2003 about 20.00 > 1 + 8 + 2 = 11
7. ive got today clepsydres about 11.00
8. she in her childhood was named Majewska... and my name is... Majewski...

I dont know...

Finally. Do You know - someone specific who is able to help me?

[Frère]

I think you are the one in the best place to help yourself, and I repeat ask for lightness forces to guide you. You are on the track, when having all these considerations, so go on. I must admit that number eleven doesn't say anything to me, and I'm not fond of digits, but there sure is a sign there too, and it sounds that the matter is Big. The fact that her father comited suicide is much much important, and regarding what you say, I'd be inclined to think that this has to lead you somewhere, because I don't think your wife and yourself found each other by chance. If you are too dependant on some service that other people will give you you might be too demanding, and be sent by them in the wrong direction. You should not much analyse the situation, but rather perceive it like something important for here and now. You have the intuition inside of you just put your conciousness where it is, so that details come. Try to be New. Forget about the reasons why it happend (just tell me more because I'm curious) and wonder what you feel Now that could help you recognise the path. No mental construction is usefull, the path is where you'll feel better. Even if your path leads you to meet her in other planes, remember that OBE requires complete anihilation of all tension... so wether or not you have to do it, relax, and observe details, without thinking too much. pray, and we talk again in a week... you'll see the difference very clearly.

[Adrian]

Greetings Kamil,

First of all I am very sorry indeed to hear of your tragic loss.

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She knows that she will be punished for this act and i think that is the most terrible thing..

Your wife will not be punished for her actions. That is not the way the universe works. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and will have to reconcile those in the context of future progress along the path. Your wife will know what she has done, and who she has left behind, and will be able to visit you at will although you may not be aware of her presence. Once she has reconciled her reasons for taking her own life, she will have the opportunity to face and reconcile them in her next life. This is what she will have to face in the future, but there is most assuredly no retribution whatsoever in the mid-Astral worlds, only peace, harmony and unconditional love. There will be plenty of people there who can and will help her.

A medium is a possibility, but there are so many charalatans out there that finding a good one is very difficult indeed. You risk disappointment at best or being very severely misled at worst.

The best way to make contact with your wife is to visit the Astral - this is the way the intelligences of the higher realms see the future as opposed to the mediums of the past. You do not need full Astral projection skills to do this. There is a person called Bruce Moen who is an expert in Afterlife exploration and who might be able to offer you advice. He also has a website with a forum where you might receive further assistance. The website is:

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com

One of our forum members, Ginny, does Afterlife exploration frequently, and you can read of her experiences here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3059

It is very possible for everyone to visit the Astral, or as Bruce refers to it the Afterlife in this way and make contact with deceased relatives, and I would suggest that is the way forward.

Finally, your wife will feel all of your emotions and which will influence her transition to the Astral. Try to send her as much unconditional love as you possibly can, it will make a big difference. Try not to subconsciously send any negative emotions.

I do hope you are able to make contact, and you are both able to find peace very soon.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[Frère]

Adrian, your posting has stunned me.
I knew such tracks would exist, but wasn't able to show them
sometime maybe I will
kamil
Anyway, I want to repeat this: send a lot of positive thinking, that's the best way to help for now... and don't forget to help yourself too, which will help you think positive.

[kamil]

Hello! Im Kamil. Writing from Poland.
We have a big tragedy in our family - my wife [ 33 days after wedding ] - she commited a suicide without any serious reason.
I want to find her.. and ask about several matters. I know that is sounds like i was crazy, but i believe in such things, like travels
beyond life, obe...

Maybe You will save another life... Thank You.
Im seeking for help in any point of the world...