hearing voices

shadowatcher · July 25, 2003, 06:00:20

my ideas of possible explanations:

1. they are the voices of your family yelling at you to get up...

2. they are creatures in the astral plane (being a bit vauge here, but you didnt describe the voices so i dont know)

3. You are creating them your self through lucid dreaming

thats all i can think of[

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Frère · July 25, 2003, 07:14:45

Well the first is very interesting, but I live on my own and it is very well isolated, so nobody can yell at me.
The second (you mean Vague instead of vauge don't you)
Would suit me but I'm not sure
For desciption I would say they are very far, like an overexposed picture where all is white, and they really speak loud, but not essentially so that I hear them, but I surely would not hear them is they spoke low, once it sounded like a familly which could have been me and my children and woman (which are separated from me and we don't plan right now on going back together) The one who called me was a little girl, and she would call me by my name, (I mean not "papa" (dady))
But this is all Very vague and far, and disapears very easily.

the third... hum I wonder, because I don't think I'm lucid when I hear the voices, if I say to myself "oh I'm starting to hear voices" all fades out.

shadowatcher · July 25, 2003, 07:27:32

Try ignoring the voices and thinking about nothing. Dont accept the voices as real, and dont pass them off as nothing. If you ignore them, then my theory is that they will get louder so you can hear them. It works for me sometimes...[

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Frère · July 25, 2003, 07:45:00

I'd rather think if I ignore them I will fall asleep, There must be something to do in order to remain quiet, without falling asleep... That will be my concern in the next days...

shadowatcher · July 25, 2003, 07:47:02

Well, its worth a try really. Do you hear the voices when you wake up early in the morning as well? try doing it then, youll be less likely to fall asleep.

Frère · July 25, 2003, 07:54:35

Actually in the morning I can feel that I will wake up, and more or less know I will dream a little more, but I could never become lucid and actually watch my dream and say this is a dream... I would like to be able to have lucid dream, but I really don't understand how it can be done. I sometimes ask myself the question in the daytime: am I dreaming, but I'm so sure I'm not that I feel stupid about asking.

shadowatcher · July 25, 2003, 07:56:18

there are no stupid questions...

Frère · July 25, 2003, 08:02:03

I usually reply to myself: this is a dream but you don't know it clearly enough to be able to say it is one. Because I know "reality" is an illusion, and that there are more final realities, but I did not experience them, so I still feel like daytime is very far from dream. (I dream a lot, and really apreciate to have all these dreams, even if they are sometimes horrible, maybe I fear becoming lucid in my dreams because of the horrors they often picture!

Punkrawker · July 25, 2003, 08:04:04

This happened to me the other day. As I was going to sleep I felt like I was talking to someone, a guide of some sorts helping me to project. As I was saying in another post, I don't know if this is a product of my imagination or an actual higher self or guide helping.

You can either accept the voices you hear or decide not to listen to them. I think I will personally listen to them and see what they have to say, call me crazy [

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Frère · July 25, 2003, 08:06:55

I would like to do the same but I fall asleep when I'm in the buiseness of hearing them... if I realise I'm listening to voices I wake up.

shadowatcher · July 25, 2003, 08:12:25

Ive never heard voices, except once when I hear a voice calling my name louder and louder...but it turned out to be my mom yelling at me because I overslept...[:O]

Punkrawker · July 25, 2003, 08:14:55

I'm not sure how much this is on the target but this is helping me to understand voices I hear.

http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap10.html

If you have already read it then maybe you need a refresher [^].

kibeginnersnightmare · July 25, 2003, 08:23:17

everybidy come and chat in my chat room.

jilola · July 25, 2003, 09:04:31

Frere What you describe sounds like the aural phenomenon thhat sometimes occur before and during a projection.
If ignoring them makes you fall asleep then just accept them but don't try to make sense out of them. Most of the time it's just gibberish and an annoyance although sometimes very distracting and scary.
The bangs, screeches and such are in the same category.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Nay · July 25, 2003, 09:22:33

If I remember correctly, it is when your mind is starting to have dream images. Since your mind is alert, you take notice of this and catch glimpes or hear voices.

Nay. [

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RandomName · July 25, 2003, 10:17:02

I FIGURED IT OUT! ACCORDING TO DOCTORS, YOUR INSANE!

Yeah, go figure hehe JK.

The voices can be astral creatures trying to A.talk to you, or b.trying to scare you, they can be real, which I doubt, or they can be hallucinated, as I get all the time. If you start to half listen to hallucinated voices, they will start to come in clearer,(at least for me) and you can make out what they are saying. I actually noticed if I started to create the voices in my head myself and focus on them, they tend to get louder and louder until I hear them as if the person was right next to me, and I can actually hear them with my own ears, not mentally.

If it were astral creatures, Id more assume they were trying to scare you. My personal experience when I was younger was when I was laying in bed, trying to fall asleep, when I hear "LETS CUT OFF HIS HEAD" in a real grungy and creepy type voice. This doesn't sound like a big deal, but keep in mind I was 5 at the time :-
Just ignore them or try and focus to keep yourself awake and make them advantegous

Frère · July 25, 2003, 13:29:16

Exactly Nay

Jilola
Thank you for your post it's a new point of view that I needed
But I can't stop wondering why this voice of a little girl called me..

jilola · July 25, 2003, 13:52:32

Perhaps there's no reason why it's a little girl's voice.
It's possible that the quality is only your interpretation of the voice and that the (possible) entity is someone else altogether.
Are you now or have you ever been in contact with your higher self or spiritual guide?

2cents & L&L
jouni

Frère · July 25, 2003, 14:21:04

Jilola
yes, but not thru voices, I wouldn't mind hearing him mentaly, but for some reasons it only messages me by shivers, dreams, and once I've seen events somehow react to what he made me know.
I feel like these people were having their life besides me, and were not trying to frighten me at all, the little girl (or whatever she is) called me like if she wanted to play with me.
I'm not sure if spiritual guide has something to do with all this, I kinda don't recognise him.

jilola · July 25, 2003, 14:25:21

Well, if you've recently started working on AP it's entirely possible your guide to be around trying to help you out.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Frère · July 25, 2003, 14:45:03

I actually still wonder if my guide is concerned by my trying with APs. After all I don't really know if I have something to do on other planes, I realise that it might be an excellent way to learn more about the things that happend to me these past years, which were quite strange (to make short). But I also have an impression that mabe I don't need AP to work it out, so mabe my guide does't feel like I need to be helped on that topic. But he still might, I'm not sure at all.

jilola · July 25, 2003, 14:48:18

I see your point.
A guide may assume a form that is interesting and nonthreatening in order to help out someone.
The voice and appearance of a child wanting to play is probably more likely to a) get you curious enough to get out and b) not scare you once you do because the surroundings may leave you a bit shaky.

I'd suggest that you try to reach out and communicate with the entities, especially the child, and find out who they are.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Frère · July 25, 2003, 14:57:22

That's a pleasant Idea, thanks for bringing it, but I even doubt I will hear this child again!

by the way, how do you think guides consider their "pupil" wanting to AP? Do you think they need some conditions in order to start helping?

jilola · July 25, 2003, 14:59:28

That's as maybe. If you do just be friendly and curious [8D]
I doubt you heard your name for no reason although sometimes that't exactly what happens.
I my case I usually don't hear anything but when I do there's always a good reason for it.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Frère · July 25, 2003, 15:12:23

Ok I knew that already actually.
But I also doubt I heard my name for no reason
My daughter sometimes calls me mentaly, especially when she cries without an apparent reason, I realised that when my thought go completly off from her during the weekly visit, she starts to feel unease... it might be related to that, but my daughter calls me "Dady" so I'm wanting to believe this "little friend" is not her.

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