first experience: 2s!

WalkerInTheWoods · July 29, 2003, 05:23:32

Like I told you in another post OBEs are like riding a bicycle, and now I think you have an idea of what I was talking about. [

] You have to have a mental and emotional balance, until then your experiences will be short. But this is good because it is better to have short experiences you remember than long ones your forget. Yes your experiences will become longer the more familar and comfortable you become with the astral. Just do not become discouraged if your experiences are short.

You need to learn to forget about your physical body. Not always an easy thing to do, but you will get better with practice. Try not to think about your physical body at all but focus on your astral surroundings, especially when you start to feel like you are becoming more aware of the physical. I am not sure how you remain calm, it is just something that I do. I guess you just try to clear your mind. Try to calm yourself without physical attention during the day, just try to clear your mind and emotions mentally.

By the way, congratulations.

Frère · July 29, 2003, 05:56:21

yes thanx fallnangel
but that's all easier said than done! all goes so fast! I guess I was still in the amazement of the exit, and thus influenced the astral where I was ... which was not the same than the one of my dream...
I realise also we have very little control about the process, it seems to me as if my guide had made me do it rather than myself doing it...

WalkerInTheWoods · July 29, 2003, 09:24:59

It is always easier said than done. It is best to just keep practicing and having the experiences. The more you do it the more you will get use to the sensations so the less you will be overwhelmed by them.

Frère · July 29, 2003, 09:27:20

FallnAngel you always choose the word that soothe!
blessed should you be!

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Frère · July 29, 2003, 11:28:23

thanx paul
alas I'm not sure I'm the one who made it happen!
(even though I worked on it I have been quite dumb founded)

jilola · July 29, 2003, 12:32:44

Excellent results in such short a time!
Don't be discouraged if the next experience takes a while to achieve. It's all too easy to start expecting too much and block the projection completely.
Also remember that it is not the matter of who was responsible for a projection. It can be you alone, you and someone on the other side or just your guide yanking you out.
The more different experiences you get the easier it becomes to remain calm and in control.

2cents & L&L
jouni

travelinbob · July 29, 2003, 12:46:01

Tecnically, its probably not your first time. But the reason you remembered it is because it was only two seconds. I had a couple of those before my first full body obe, which in itself was just 5 to 10 seconds. Like RB says in AD, you got to keep it short at first and have a lot of patience before you fly out of orbit. Good luck on your future attempts!!! [

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Frère · July 29, 2003, 14:12:15

Thanx travelin bob
Nice new avatar fallnangel
Jilola: I definately am sure there was
1. my guide
2. something else (they were two)
That pulled me out, but also inclined my dream into a lucid dream... I feel like they are doing much efforts out there so that I ca become more aware of the world they live in. I have no doubt there is great knowledge (and very usefull one) to be learned in the realms... but the way the thoughts ablout evil are mixed with the rest is still not trivial to me... so you see if it doesnt come back so fast I won't be starting to weep, I'll just take the resting time for what it is! pure gold too!

jilola · July 29, 2003, 15:16:10

ah the astral is WYEIWYWG. What You Expect Is What You Will Get.

2cents & L&L
jouni

WalkerInTheWoods · July 29, 2003, 17:47:43

Thank you, Frere. Nice new avatar you have too. There is actually a story that goes along with it, but I will post that later when I have more time.

True, jilola. That is why it cannot be stressed enough to try to remain calm and passive. Easier said than done but that should be any astral traveler's goal.

mantis · July 30, 2003, 09:08:45

Wow! that's pretty incredible! keep practicing!

Austin

Frère · July 29, 2003, 04:59:45

tonight I got out of my body... for the first time... but for only two seconds, don't even know if my feet have been out... it was during a dream, and I realised "the evil was REAL" in my dream, I guess that Idea of REAL brought a kind of lucidity. From that point I felt my Protector really strong in my whole body and the vibrations were far, far away, but I felt soon pulled out of my body. then I felt two "friends" who yet are unnamed, and looked like shadows, taking me to an unknown place, flying... we flyed up as I tried to calm down, but trying to calm dow I tended to feel my physical body, so I faded out, and fell back in my body..... but the sensations were [:O]

, I start to measure what means more real than real... Still wonder if that was enough to be called a first time... but the proof it can happen to me is made.
might it be longer some other time? I have the bad habit of listening to my physical body when I want to be more quiet... What should I think about in order to stay out and calm myself?

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first experience: 2s!