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Tarconiss

Time is nothing more than our perception of how long something lasts.... So it may be that your awareness is just picking things up at a more accelerated level, causeing it to feel more as if time is dragging out, longer than it used to seem.

It's kindof like how terrifieing seconds could seem like hours, or how pleasurable and gratifieing hours could seem like mere moments....

But if this be the case for you, congradulations with achieveing that great of awareness.
If someone has the knowledge, and wants to do something, how far do you think they can go, if they lack the experience, and are unable to sustain the amount of effort needed to succeed?  ~ Self 2/25/2003

no_leaf_clover

Treaty how do you know Nibiru doesn't exist? There's some strong evidence that says otherwise.

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If you're referring to them calling Planet X or Nibiru the twelth planet, thinking that they're talking about the sun and the moon as 10 and 11, you're mistaken. If that is what you are referring to. Some scientists and astronomers believe that there were originally two other planets between Mars and Jupiter.


Well, according to the Sumerians, there was one planet between Mars and Jupiter. They called this planet 'Tiamat'. It was a big watery planet, like Earth. When Nibiru came in, it smashed right into it, and so did the debris floating around Nibiru. The results of the impact were a) the asteroid belt, and b) Earth. This is what is told in the Enuma Elish, given they're talking about celestial bodies at all (archaeologists refuse to accept this because the Sumerians technically shouldn't have known of any planets that weren't visible in the sky).

As far as life surviving that far out into space.. All they would need is heat, food, and air. In the Enuma Elish, Nibiru was described as a huge fireball, being brighter than the sun. Obviously it must have a surface now, but if the whole planet was flaming in the past, there would surely be thermal heat to live off of. I don't know if the Annunaki actually evolved from scratch there (in fact I seriously doubt it, considering the other reported bipedaled beings), but they were reported to live there at the time of Sumer's existance and for many hundreds of thousands of years before that, as they had set up a civilization in Sumeria before what we find there today.

The original civilization there was much more advanced but was wiped out by the flood before the Annunaki left. We were picking up on their technology so fast that they were growing uncomfortable with leaving it there for us to tinker with anyway. The pyramids, sphinx, Stonehenge-like structures in Iraq, and the oldest temples in Jerusalem (which are yet to be fully explored due to their massive sizes) are the only things that are left from the Annunaki's presence that are openly displayed by governments (only because it would be hard to conceal those things!).
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

Aristoles

Something really bad IS happening at the end of august.School starts again.

On a more serious note,I don't think anything will happen.Bad prophecies have been foretold for long time,yet none of them have become true.

Lynfer

August 27 is my birthday and I was born around 4am. I am reaaly interested in this quote. Can anyone give me more information regarding this day.
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Originally posted by justine

Hi
Another interesting August event:   at 5:51 a.m. EDT on Aug. 27, 2003, Mars will be within 34,646,418 miles (55,758,006 kilometers) of Earth. This will be the closest that Mars has come to our planet in nearly 60,000 years.
At the close approach, the Red Planet will be brighter than Jupiter and all the stars in the night sky, outshone only by Venus and the Moon.
Justine  [8)]


Tab

Mars is coming to your birthday party. UNINVITED.

Kazbadan

I bet that nothing bad is gonna happen in near the end of August. It´s always the same: predictions and more predictions but all of them fail.

I think i can say the same about December 2012.

If you remember, everyone that knew Nostradamus was scared about 1999 (and many others about 2000 or 2001) and nothing real bad (like the Day of Judgment or the like) happened.

Forget about prophecies, they are just lies or ilusions (and that´s good, i don´t want the end of the world!).

Many people needs to believe in prophecies because their life it´s very bad and with the End of the World it´s believed that we will live in a better place, like paradise.

I don´t see anyone like an Anti-Christ or a big third war in the horizon...

The power of Change and Choice it´s in our hands. The world will become better thanks to our efforts. But if not, if the world it will be a better place thanks to UFOs, God, Christ or any other thing, so we must be afraid of that. And why? Because that means that future it´s not in our hands, it means that we are so weak that we cannot do nothing to change the world into paradise, it means that we are like Peter Pan: we will never grow up (we have something like 30000 years of civilization and until now i only see a very stupid humanity that can commit suicide at any time with a stupid nuclear war).

There is no God to save our souls. We are God and only us can save the world.
I love you!

Syke

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Originally posted by Kazbadan



I don´t see anyone like an Anti-Christ or a big third war in the horizon...




Maybe not an Anti-Christ.. but a third world war is all i can see with all these terrorist attacks and questionable world "leaders"..

i personally believe that the annunaki havent left and are still controlling the world at this very moment through ways of religion, politics, the economic and royal families. perhaps in 2012 they will finally put their agenda into play... what that is i havnt the slightest clue.

i got to see mars last night through my telescope, twas awesome... not really much to look at (like i can see the rings on saturn and the purple on jupiter with this telescope)but just to know that i saw it when it was the closest to earth its been in like 65000 years was just cool.
-Syke

Kazbadan

Syke sayed:
"not really much to look at (like i can see the rings on saturn and the purple on jupiter with this telescope)"

Sorry about the off topic for the readers of this post.

Hi Syke: wich telescope have you used? I used a 114mm and i saw something that i would like to ask you: i could see in the planet a brightest zone in the pole. Could it be the glacier? I´m not shure since it could be any othe light effect caused by the telescope.

In the last years when i looked to mars i didn´t saw that, maybe now i can see the glacier because of the distance.

Unfortunatly the weather in Portugal it´s raining and i can´t look anymore to mars.[:(]
I love you!

Syke

hello Kazbadan,

i only just recently got this telescope off my uncle and dont know much about it...

the 'light' you are refering to im guessing are the ice caps... here is some information i found on them:

"Mars has permanent ice caps at both poles composed of water ice and solid carbon dioxide ("dry ice"). The ice caps exhibit a layered structure with alternating layers of ice with varying concentrations of dark dust. In the northern summer the carbon dioxide completely sublimes, leaving a residual layer of water ice. It seems likely that a similar layer of water ice exists below the southern cap as well. The mechanism responsible for the layering is unknown but may be due to climatic changes related to long-term changes in the inclination of Mars' equator to the plane of its orbit. There may also be water ice hidden below the surface at lower latitudes. The seasonal changes in the extent of the polar caps changes the global atmospheric pressure by about 25%."

i hope that helps you.

-Syke

Kazbadan

PMONLINE posted:

"You didn't read carefully.  Read the post again and you'll see that it says between late August and the end of this year."

That doesn´t change anything. Predict something with accuracy it´s one thing, but predict other in a near future with a large amount of time (from august until December) it´s other thing. If Nostradamus was correct about 1999, that it would be a great prediction, since it was made at 300 or 400 years ago. But if in 1998 myself predict something like  "The world will be in trouble in 1999, blabla" it´s other thing because i´m only at a year of distance of the future and i can have a reasonable idea of the things that may happen.

Even i thought that something could happen this year. It´s not difficult: Iraq atacked + crazy Osama and terrorists + North Corea + much more events = bad thing this year or next one. Everyone can "predict" that.

Prophecies made one year or few years before the event happen, must be accurate in time and location. For example, i remember a faked Nostradamus prediction that says something about  two towers that would be destroyed. Íf you don´t know, that prediction was made some years before not by Nostradamus but by two persons (or one?) that were trying to proof that the refered prophet (nostradamus) it´s a fake. How they would expect do that? Their theorie says that very vague prophecies can happen in any time and have the interpretations that any one wishs. With such idea on mind they created the famous quartain in a Nostradamus style, and they sayed that something it would happen in the future (even if it only occurs within 500 years) that would fulfill the "prophecie". But something unexpected occured: the prediction happened much earlier than the expected: the 11 September that it would correspond in the worst way to the prophecie.

But they were correct: any one can invent a vague prophecie and be quiet shure that somewhere in the future such event will take place. The quartain that they invented has proved that (unfortunatly with the 11/09).

Astrologers and many self called prophets use that technique in conjuction with some psycology. For example, if you are a medium (not a real one but a mock-doctor) and want to earn some money reading the future of a abandoned wife you can use the technique "vague prophecie" with the technique "give to the people what they want". And your prophecie will be, in a resumed way ,like this (someone with a good english will make it even better):

mock-doctor: "I see a person coming into your life...it´s a man....now i see that he brings many changes with him..."

abandoned wife: "His that man my ex-husband?"

m-d: "No, no, this man it a novelty in your life....i see that he brings happiness.."

a w: "That´s good!! Tell me more" - she starts to get excited. From this point the excitment will make the work to the mock docor even easiest.


Don´t need to say more, i suppose.

Non-Accurate prophecies are something that anyone can do. Between August and December it´s natural something can happen. Woul be surprised if not.

I love you!

Squeek

Well, for what it's worth, my area has been hit with 3 violent thunderstorms everyday for 3 days.  Worst ones I've seen in my life.

I had to post it somewhere, and HERE seemed like the ideal place!  :D

~Squeek

Kazbadan

Were can i find that prophecies? I have been searching but i didn´t find it. My english tricks me sometimes, maybe is that  the reason for not seing the post with the predictions.

By the way PMONLINE: if you are refering to me, with that about hate, well i don+t hate anyone.

Second: i was not correcting anyone, just making general considerations about prophecies.

If you believe in Jesus, you must believe in what he says: "In the end of days there will be many false prophets".

I love you!

Kazbadan

That´s interesting. If Sean it´s indeed a prophet we will have problems in the future...the wars that he saw are not good!

But even being a bad thing, if such things happen exactly as predicted, we have good new too: prophecies are real and we have a way to deal with future. It means too, that our world it´s not a logical and scientific world (such boring!): obes, ufos, ghost, prophecies, telekinesis, etc are real and that brings a kind of wonderful to the world!

I love you!

Squeek

Today was... thunderstorm number 5.  This one was not violent, but very very long.  1-3 were the worst storms I'd seen in a long time.

Hopefully this passes soon... Electricity in our area is really unstable, so almost anything knocks out the power... SOO I have to shut off the computer until it's over.  Which means I can't post. Which means I also have nothing to do.  Which sucks.

~Squeek

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