my first OBE? what do you think?

[justinh]

I don't think I ever forced my re-entry.  I just ended up waking up later.  Also, these memories didn't come right away.   I had to spend a few minutes recalling them, but they were easy to recall.

Now, I am not eager to claim that I have done something that I haven't done.  I am after the truth, not lying in order to get fame or acceptance, but I don't think this was simply a dream.  I could give the old excuse of "it felt too real", but dreams can feel real also.  No, instead, I am going to say that the continued interaction with my physical body as far as breathing and sight was concerned is unlike ANYTHING I have ever experienced in my 21 years on this planet.I think this is more than a self-induced fantasy about projecting.  I guess it was silly for me to think that my first OBE would have me gliding around through walls with ease, which is what makes this all the more compelling:  it was very clumsy. A simple dream would have been much better orchestrated, like a movie, and probably would have involved otherpeople (and no interaction with my physical body).  It's funny... I just always thought "getting there" was the hard part, and that the exit was automatic, but this was the opposite.

Overall, it was a mixed bag.  The projection, time-wise, was probably around the ultrashort range, which was why my recall was so good.  There's no doubt that I did sleep, as I can recall another unrelated dream as well.  It's 11:45 AM asI write this.  Now, all this being said, could this have in fact been a spontaneous projection?  I didn't intend for this to happen at all.

As a test, after writing this, I just layed down in much the same position, and observed the couch-cam view that I had during this OBE.  It looks exactly how it did in the OBE.

I just hope I can use this experience to more easily induce future ones.  I have that silly "couch-cam" experience to remember this one by.

Thanks Robert Bruce for such an awesome handbook and the desire to put together such a great set of resources and
online community.

Justin

[ralphm]

the only thing that seems to contradict OBE writings is getting close to your body-most sources say if you stay too close you get sucked back in. i  do not have direct experience of this though.

[Grenade01]

Totally sounds like an obe

Sometimes I get a pull from being close to my body (well most the time), but sometimes I also dont.

I remember this one time I lifted out at least 15 or 20 times.  I kept getting sucked back in after each attempt, but wasnt waking up for some reason.

but a lot of times I float over and feel the need to look out my window, which is only like 2 feet from my body.  It seems more like giving "attention" to the body is what pulls you back.  especially looking at or thinking about it.

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[justinh]

It's worth saying that I also read AD some more today and it says that re-entry is difficult to impossible if the body is physically in deep sleep, and also this can lead to the "oh no... am I dead?" feeling that I experienced.

It seems that everything I have experienced so far I have been able to look up in AD.  That book is really amazing.

[Grenade01]

Congratulations =)
Its pretty neat isn't it?
Now if only you could tell your family and friends, without them looking at you like your a lunatic. Hahaha

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[justinh]

Well guys, I think I just had my first OBE.  Please read what I have to offer and tell me what you think.  (Sorry for the length, but I wanted to give all the details I could)

It was about 6:00 AM.  I had been up all night, a regular thing since I began nightly meditation.  I usually meditate from 2:00 AM until 4:00 AM or so, trying to OBE.

Well, last night, I was pretty bummed from trying to project and failing the past few nights.  I tried again for only a very short period of time with no results.  Afterward, I decided to lay down and go to sleep since I needed the rest.

I layed down on my side, facing the couch, so as to prevent any OBE symptoms since I read that it was hard to project on your side.  I was hoping to get some good rest.

The next thing I know I was looking through my eyes, staring at the couch, in kind of a weird perspective.  It was like one eye was open and one was not.  I thought "boy, this is a weird dream to be having.....".    (Right now I am reading in AD and he in fact mentions on page 294 about this same kind of defective vision that I was having.)

I tried to twist my body to lay on my back...nothing.  I tried again, harder, nothing.  I began to think of the waking paralysis I had been reading about in AD before I went to sleep.  (I have experienced waking paralysis only ONCE that I remember, and it only lasted a few seconds, but it was pretty weird.)

Anyway, then it just hit me "OH!".  I tugged upward and could feel my projectable double rising out. I could feel the tug from my physical body, however, my defective vision was giving me problems. I couldn't really see anything.  I remember moving 5-6 feet away to the nearby window, standing where I often look out during the daytime, and the tug from my physical body lessened.

I think I then tried to crouch and jump REALLY high, in kind of a blast-off-through-the-roof act.  I felt the rush as I ascended, but with defective sight I had problems really appreciating it.  My vision did, however, shift to my physical body and it seemed to be that it began breathing heavier.  I could feel it as I looked through my eyes to the couch from where I lay.

I got a bit worried for a second.  After that blastoff attempt, I decided that I'd had enough.  As I usually do in dreams,I mentally tried to click the "wake up" switch, but it didn't work.  I just got the couch-view of my physical body instead.  

I wasn't prepared for these sight problems, so I don't think I ever really SAW much of anything except through my physical body's eyes which had that weird one-eyed sideways view of my couch.  I did, however, see one thing:  I went over to my physical body as it lay, and, through blurred vision, tried to get a closer look.  

The silly part is that I actually tried to grab ahold of my physical body and "roll it over" to examine my face and  make sure that I was breathing and alive.  Of course, that didn't work!  My first reaction was "oh no... am I dead?". I was stricken with grief, and then acceptance of the events, and then to calm as I felt my physical body breathing. (This is actually my biggest concern - failure to breathe properly or not getting enough oxygen and passing out.
I guess it's kinda silly since breathing is a natural reflex that we all do everyday without thinking.)

After this, I tried to perform another "blastoff" attempt, again with the racing heart transposed with "couch-cam".

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