OBE, My Personal Experience

[Mohamed]

BTW, I will try again soon with the Monroe institutes audio (non verbal) OOBE helper, Transcendence.  I will tell you all how it goes.

[Mohamed]

I have tried to OOBE with the Monroe institutes OOBE CD's, but with no luck.  I believe I am closer than ever to having a full OOBE, but I have not had one yet.  I will keep you updated.

Mohamed

[Lasher]

quote:Originally posted by Mohamed

I have tried to OOBE with the Monroe institutes OOBE CD's, but with no luck.  I believe I am closer than ever to having a full OOBE, but I have not had one yet.  I will keep you updated.

Mohamed

It's sounds like you are indeed getting close.  That's very encouraging!  Keep up the good work!

Lasher

[kozzi]

Mohamed,

You're definately close to OBE.  It's funny that you call it "shaking eyelids".  When I was first trying AP I noticed this feeling too, and I wonder if my eyelids were just opening.  Eventually, you're just going to "pop" out!!!   By the way, if you want to do it...  AP I mean...  don't just decide you want to go to sleep, keep trying.  You were closer than you can imagine!

Kozzi

[Mohamed]

Thank you Lasher and Kozzi for your encouragement!

I usually wake up at around 6:40am or so in order to pray the morning prayers.  Today I woke up at 6:50, got up, washed my self so that I can be pure in prayer, prayed, and then attempted to sleep again.  As I was close to sleeping I felt my "astral body."  You may ask, "What do you mean you felt your astral body?"  I actually felt the darkness of my closed eyes moving, and it became lighter and lighter, so I decided to move the "darkness," then BAM I was out.  I will tell you all something right now, you are never, NEVER prepared for what you will see when you come out.

I saw everything in my room at once!  It is strange; I could see the ceiling, the floor, in front of me, behind me, a full 360 degree range of sight!  My room was dark when I attempted, but my astral eye could see everything just fine, kind of like night vision with out that ugly green tint.  I could hear my fan, though, it sounded different.  I can only theorize that this is because we can hear different frequencies when we leave our bodies.

Like I said already, you are never prepared for what you see and how it feels.  I wasn't and became frightened, so frightened that I was zapped back into my body.  I became so angry!  I tried again right after but failed, so I went down to the basement and joined my father for tea, Arabic cheeses, and Arabic yogurt.  I tried again after I ate, and it worked!  I got out a total of 4 times, but I could not stay out, can anyone give me suggestions on how to stay out?

P.S.  I was lying on my side with my body scrunched up in a thick blanket, very comfortable.  I did not feel any vibes either.  I have learned that the vibes actually hinder you, not help you!

Mohamed

[alt0xFF]

Also note that you went to sleep at around 1:30am, then woke up to do your prayers, and then proceeded to project. So the success might in part be attributed to the classical sleep deprivation technique that has been employed.

Or it could have been the Arabic yogurt...

<added> I got starred! </added>

[Mohamed]

I believe it was the sleep deprivation.  I have had a similar experience to this as well, in fact exactly the same except I slept at 2am.  I did the same things as I did today, then went back to sleep.  I then became Lucid in my dream, and had a very fun experience, flying and such.  I will tell you something though; a lucid dream is no where near an OOBE!

But then again, I did eat Arabic Yogurt....

Mohamed

[clandestino]

hello there Mohamed !

Yes, I agree that sleep deprivation helps, but in my experience, only now and then.

To stay out longer, you need to become more familiar with the feeling of being OBE...you need to become slightly less "involved"...hmm, that's not a very good way of putting it.

You need to avoid sensations of excitement, or fear....in fact, avoid emotion, which brings you back to waking conciousness. At least, that's what has happened to me in my limited experiences.
best regards

Mark

[Jeff_Mash]

First of all, congratulations on your experience!  It brings back memory of my first one five years ago....and no matter how many I have, I still feel exhiliration when I separate!  Now I will address some of your questions:

quote:Originally posted by Mohamed

I got out a total of 4 times, but I could not stay out, can anyone give me suggestions on how to stay out?

For me, this is always an issue too.  The thing that has helped me prolong my experiences is to REMAIN CALM and RELAX YOUR MIND.  Great, but how do you do this?  What I tend to do is, while separated, take a few deep, relaxing breaths.  Mentally tell yourself that you are not in a hurry, and that with each breath you take, you will feel stronger and more aware.  This usually strengthens the experience and prolongs it for me.

The thing that always kills it is when I go, "Ok, now I am relaxed.  What should I do?  Ooooo, ooooooo, I know!  I know!  I can this, or that, or this, or that......"

And then, I get too excited and lose the experience!

quote:
I have learned that the vibes actually hinder you, not help you!

Most people think the vibrations are essential to separating.  However, 99% of the time, I don't feel them.  I think that people will feel vibrations only if they focus on them....just like most people will only hear the ringing in their ears if they focus.  Otherwise, it goes on unnoticed.

[Mohamed]

clandestino,

How is Redmoon treating you?  I was a lvl 436 Sadad before I quit for good.  I played on the Euro servers.  My character's name was Mohamed.

Jeff_Mash,

Thanks!  To be honest with you, once I got that first one, it has been rather easy for me to come out, though, it seems that I always come out at the wrong time!  Last night I was ready to sleep when I felt my astral body again.  I moved out and decided I was way too tiered to continue so I just shifted my way back in and went to sleep soon after.

I believe that the key to an OOBE is to know how your astral body feels.  Once you know this feeling and understand this feeling, you can always, at anytime, feel your astral body.  When I close my eyes I can feel my astral body (I like to believe it as my spirit).  Only when I am relaxed can I decide to move my spirit out of my body.  All it takes is that first one, just come out once and you will know what I mean.

Mohamed

[Mohamed]

Last night I attempted an OBE, though I did not succeed I became very close to an actual projection.  For those of you who which to know how it felt, I will post here with as much detail as possible.

I usually listen to delta brain waves while attempting a projection because it helps me by entraining my brain to a delta state, though remaining conscious.  Those who know about brain waves will say, "Hey, that's not at all possible," believe me, try it and you will see.

This is my experience.  I closed my eyes, lying down on my back on my bed with a pillow under my knees (helps with the back later in projection).  I loosened all the muscles in my body and keeping my mind active.  I was soon in the focus 10 state.  I then began to feel as if my mind was shaking (close your eyes and move your eyes back and forth in a diagonal manner, this is how it felt except my eyes where not moving).  I tried to keep this feeling up as long as possible, but it faded away.  I then tried to leave my body, but it seemed that it was just not possible with the techniques found on the internet and in books so I created my own way of leaving.  I focused my conciseness outside of my body and as soon as I did this the most amazing thing happened.  First my forehead (people say it is their eyebrows with me it was the middle of my forehead) began shaking uncontrollably, then my eye lids began to shake as well.  As soon as I could see my room with my eyes closed I hear the most amazing thing.  I heard my physical heart beating normally, but I could also hear another heart, rather than the Bu-Bum Bu-Bum of the physical heart this other heart was beating with a VERY loud PUM-PUM-PUM-PUM, the more I tried to leave the louder it became, soon my whole body began to vibrate intensely, and then, just as I was about leave my body, my delta wave CD ended!  I kept up the vibrations for a while after that but I just could not leave my body so I decided to sleep.