My sitting up projections work at least 80-90% --

[Jeff_Mash]

That was a really good post, Zarklon.  I like how you went into so much detail in order to explain what position you were in, and what to concentrate on.

A lot of my recent projections (if not most of them) seem to happen when I am laying on my arm (whether it be my arm under my head, or my arm under my body).  This reminded me of what you suggested, about sitting on your leg.

Anyway, great post, and I look forward to reading more of your astral experiences!

[LittleNinja]

[]Nice post Zarklon. It was a good read. I might try it sometimes when i have the chance.  Thanks for the method.


Ps.  HeY Awesome hair you got in your avatar.  I want to cut my hair like that too but i know my parents wont' allow it.[]  NOOOOOOOO!!!Ohh well... at least i can try to fantasize about it.[] ehhe.

[Tao]

LOL - i found your post amusing - you can sleep during the classes - way COOL

If i would do - no - let me rephrase it - if i would DARE to try that i would probably be kicked out from my stuuuuupid highschool

Anyways - i wILL surely give it a try - since i like to sleep in noise too

Nice post.. give us more info on how it`s going with ur project,
Mihai

[electricdreamer]

[]Good to know you are getting so much out of our educational system-hehe

[Zarklon]

I'm glad you guys liked the post. I do try to put a lot of detail into what I say cause its so hard to explain things over the net and most of the time when people are talking about exit sensations or what to focus on , they dont quite explain it correctly sometimes.

Since I'm still sick , I dont be trying to OBE for a while. Give it about 2 more days and I'll start working on my cannonball method in bed. Nonetheless , I'll keep you guys posted. - Take care


PS:Thats about all the education I'm getting from my crappy highschool! I hate hick ville Mississippi!

[Omnigod0101]

Awesome post! I spent a lot of time sleeping/drawing cartoons and obceine comics in school but not too much attempting OBE's lol pretty cool!

I definatly must agree though that I've always had my most successful attempts (since I don't really believe I've had a fully successful OBE...YET) in very ackward positions, after I'd given up an attempt. (Usually on my stomach or side with one arm under my head and the other to my side) Perhaps I'll try something new with position tonight, thanks for the info!!! []

[Ceriel N]

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I just realized I've done something similar several times, unwittingly. Just just thought it was a lucid dream or something. [:I]
Lol. The times I've suddenly been unable to make sense of the paper I was 'falling asleep' reading are quite numerus.

Tell me, when you 'wake up' do you hear, or feel a snap?

[veliki grizli]

Zarklon, I think that you are naturaly talented for projection I i thing thar meditation and visualisation is tequired for many people to project, but I an going to try your technique it seems pretty good.

[jc84corvette]

heh not all AP'ers here go to school but I do[]

Very nice post and great explanation! I wish Icould try it but I sit in a class with rolling chairs and long tables for desk first period! LOL

[Zarklon]

Veliki , I wish I was a natural at it but if I can hardly project at home then I can't call myself a natural but as far as doing it in my first class of the schoolday .. ooooooh yea I'm a natural at THAT at least lol.. but as far as doing it at home. . I'm learning how to project like the rest of us =P I may have just harnessed the power of spontaneous OBE's by doing it in class , who knows =P ...

I'm gonna post a new message about how I managed to separate this morning using some kind of wierd noise I was mentally playing in my mind.... it might make for an interesting read- I dont quite know how I did it.

[Zarklon]

Hello again guys If you dont already know , I've been practicing astral projection for about a year now and have had much success. I find that sitting up in an uncomfortable desk or just indian style with my head in my lap and my hands on the back of my neck is the best way for me to project.. You dont need a comfy bed , blankets , nude body , quiet environment , or sleepy body to project. You dont even need to really meditate or control your breathing to project.

Sometimes these things help , but for me all I need is to wake up at 6 am , ride a school bus to school , sit in class  and assume my astral position while relaxing completely and mostly trying to fall asleep while listening to the class talk or the teacher lecture..

My astral position is simply my head facing down towards my lap, my right or left hand palmed on my lips and sitting on one foot or none in my desk. It looks like I'm thinking really hard if you saw me in this position.. it may not be comfortable to everyone , its not comfortable to me but I've grown used to sitting like this in class.

If you want to project like I do , sit like that in an old wooden desk after you wake up early , maybe play some funny sounding music or turn the tv to the news station and start to sleep in that position.. if you can let your body go totally relaxed and not fall out of the chair then you are doing it right. You may have to quirm a bit to achieve the position while remaining completely limp or relaxed. After about 5 minutes or so listening to the music, tv , or chatter from classmates , I feel my muscles sort of get tense and I relax even further .. within a matter of seconds after I relax again , I feel this surge of suble vibration go through my neck and spread to my mid spine area. If I remain relaxed without thinking of it , it surges again  until pretty soon I can just will it on .. at this time I am in the paralyzed state.. thats where I can work my magic.

Once you get inthe paralyzed state either by my position or by your own (whether it be in a bed or recliner or whatever ) , I suggest you try to move out of your physical frame.. Of course you will feel like you cant move but you should notice that some part of you is actually moving.. it kind of feels like your body is a magnet for your astral body and if you move slowly but surely away from your body , you will eventually fully separate and that "magnet" of a physical body no long pulls you and you become fully in the astral. Sight may not come to you until you get a few feet away but it does come and leads to a full blown , real-time astral projection. I hear everyone say that you need to meditate , control breathing , get everything quiet... I can assure you that my environment is quite noisy , and that I'm not very comfortable in my wooden desk.

I have had much less success in a bed and even trying this projection technique in my own home but for some reason , school is the easiest for me.. I failed American History this way so I dont advise you to do it in school although it did provide many fun experiences at the time.

Just last week , my teacher decided to be an A-Hole and not let me sleep in his class cause I was sick (I have fever at the moment). He told me I couldnt sleep in the class and that I should go somewhere else to sleep if I had to .. namely the bleechers right outside.. Well , since I hate the guy and wanted to prove that I could give a crap about his smart attitude and heartlessness , I walked out and slept on the bleechers in my gym.  

The first position I assumed was sitting indian style with my hands on the back of my neck and my head basically touching my ankles .. probably not comfortable to anyone else but if you are tired and sick .. well it worked for me. It was fairly quiet in the gym except for some big fans blowing and a buzzing noise from the old light fixtures. Within minutes I felt a surge of paralysis that I explained above and was able to slowly separate my astral body from the paralyzed physical one.. It feels like SLOOOOOOW MOTION when I do this and always does. I got about a foot away before I was zapped back into my body from giving up and to my surprise I had vision of my surroundings.. I saw my sweater with the 2 draw strings for the hood and the bleechers .. all seemed normal except for the steps of the bleechers.. they were like 5 feet in hight and it felt liek I was about to tumble forward so I moved slightly and realized that I was separated from my body fully and was able to walk around in astral with perfect vision and I focused on making the gym look normal instead of the reality fluctuations I was seeing.  After a little while , things were just fine and I was able to think more clearly than ever before while astral. I even told myself "wow I've never been this concoius out of body before!" and I started to think of some things I felt like doing. One thing I enjoyed that day was doing backflips off the bleachers and floating down to the floor. It event gave me that strange stomache feeling you get when driving over a hill real fast! About a dozen false awakenings and 20 dreams later class was over and here I am now a few days later writing about it.

I hope this post makes you realize that you dont need to do much in order to project. I'm working on finding out just why I can project in class about 90 percent more than in my own home and in much more comfortable and quiet environments! I think maybe I'm more prone to getting sucked into hypnagogic imagery when its quiet and having a noisy environment lets me focus on the noise (people chatting , fans vlowing  etc..).

Heres an overview of the position and steps I go through to have this almost-always successful projection.

1)Go to bed at 10pm to 12 midnight

2)Wake up and ride the bus for an hour bouncing like crazy in the seat from all the potholes and dealing with noisy elementry school students that drive me nuts while drifting in and out of sleep the whole time in the bus seat.

3)Stand up and talk to my friends before the bell rings for school to start...or really I sorta moan,groan,and slur to them..(I'm not a morning person)

4)Sit down in the desk in class and immediately assume my position
(Sit in the desk/chair with both feet on the floor , then take one foot and comfortable sit on it or put it under your thigh so that the circulation doesnt get cut off much if at all , then whichever leg is higher from the foot under it , take that elbow and prop it onto your thigh , bend your body over until you have your chin to your chest and your hand open with your lips propped onto that hand with the elbow still on your thigh)--Just get comfortable any way you can without falling out of the seat once your body is asleep..and sometimes it feels like your slipping out of the chair but your really not ... I had to LET myself hit the floor like that only to realize that it was my astral body slipping out and hitting the floor .. my physical one was safe and sleeping.. I had guts that day..

5)Let your body go completely relaxed and limp and give it less than 10 minutes before you feel that surge or small vibration at least.
To achieve this in a noisy or quiet environment , simply focus on relaxing more and more in that awkward position and it naturally comes to me.


6)After I feel the paralysis surge mentioned above , I try to move slowly and it feels like I'm wrapped up in plastic wrap and I'm trying to stretch it more and more in slow motion..

7)When your a few feet away from your astral body , you should have vision or have had it already (usually I notice I've had it all along). Then go and have fun! I suggest re-entering your body shortly after but dont move it , remain relaxed and you should notice the surge of paralysis kick in in only a few seconds and practice breaking the plastic-wrap paralysis a few more times until you master it.


The only reason I said to use the TV's news channel  or funny music in this position at home is so maybe you have something to picture in your mind while your relaxing .. and the uncomfortable position will keep you from falling asleep completely.

I hope this helps anyone , I'm working on a lieing down method and false-movement technique for astral projection that involves visualization of me getting shot out of a cannon along with breathing rythmatically and quieting the mind but so far I've only had it work 2 times in one night.

Enjoy!---Anyone who is a student in highschool or whatever should really give this a try at least once! But carefull .. its addicting since it worked for me so much lol!