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Tao

I am not an APer - than you must ask yourself why have i replied - i read LOTS of books on the subject - and begin my OBE a couple of days ago...
So i will answear your question not from personal experience but by Monroe`s, Frank`s, and Robert Bruce`s

1. The astral IS Mind Sensitive - so if you think that you are naked you will be - of course you can look without thinking - but that`s where the subcouncious comes in play :)

2. From what i`ve read on this forums - is something like 2 beings becoming one - like they melt into eachother - Rober Bruce advised not to do Astral Sex because of the easy way to fall into the Alice Effect - if it wasn`t RB that said that.. sorry Robert :D

3. Ha - i thought of this too - I can`t answear this question really well because i really don`t know - but i Imagine that you won`t go to the filming place - because that was in the past - but you will go into the virtual reality of that movie or whatever :D

4. That it`s a tough question - and i can`t answear it - i don`t know :D



Respect,
Mihai

Tenacious

Neo-

Your Number 4, here is a question that makes some sense :)  Ok think of it this way:  If there are people who AP and have silver fillings, then you too can project with braces.

Good luck, and have fun!

Oh and Hi Robert! I'm enjoying every page of your book.
-Tenacious[:P]

"The most interesting people in the world are those you do not understand" -Me

alt0xFF

" I'd just rather hear it from Robert Bruce himself, as he has been projecting for over 25 years. "

I would understand your attitude if your questions were way too advanced and complicated, e.g. concerning projections into planes beyond Astral, or something concerning mind split, etc. - the stuff that cannot be answered by casual OBEer. But since most of your questions are "AP101" level, and can be answered by very many people on this board who are more than qualified to answer basic questions, or better yet by simple forum search, I don't quite understand your attitude.

Regarding the metallic stuff: according to Astral Dynamics, it sometimes causes problems for some people, but not for others. From the context of that particular chapter one may conclude that if a problem is related to metallic objects, the subject usually notices it since the problems are localized. In other words, if you have problems with your braces, you will know about it. I've had some successful projections (but I'm still at the newbie level, so you can disregard my awfully uneducated answer unworthy of your attention if you want [:D]) while wearing my heavy steel watch that I never take off; did not notice any problems that can be related to that.


Jeff_Mash

Hi there Neo,

I'm not sure if I would be classified as an "experienced" projector, even though I've had well over 100 experiences in the last five years.  However, I will try and answer your questions pulling from my own personal experience:

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Originally posted by Neo Schiavo
1.  The illustration on the back cover of the book (Astral Dynamics) depicts the astral body as being unclothed.  Is this the case during all OBEs?  Or does your attire depend on what you were wearing before the projection?



Your attire while OBE depends on what you're projecting yourself to be wearing.  If while projecting, you think about wearing a tuxedo, then chances are when you look at yourself, you'll be wearing one.

To be honest, most of the time, I never think about looking what I have on my body....the same way I don't think about what I'm wearing when I get out of bed in the morning.  I just do it.

You will find when you project, that the thoughts about clothing and attire really take a backseat to other things, like flying and walking through walls!

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2.  The term "astral sex" was briefly mentioned in the beginning of the treatise.  Interested with this concept, I searched the rest of the treatise for additional information.  But no avail.  Alternatively, I searched the web and yet, having read numerous articles regarding the subject, I have found no useful results.  Therefore, what exactly is "astral sex?"  The absence of physical organs has made me curious as to how it is performed.



Sex in the astral is not like sex in the physical.  In the physical, we have physical organs and we need physical contact.  In the astral, you no longer have a physical body.  You are, for lack of a better expression, an energy body.  You have shape and substance, just as that dream car (or house, etc) has substance in your mind right now.

So on the astral, having sex isn't about sticking your astral genetalia inside another person.  It's about melding energies with another person.  A transference of sexually charged energy. Imagine hugging someone and feeling an extreme rush of sensual energy passing between you two, something more powerful than a puny earthly orgasm.

Now, I have to admit that I have never experienced full blown astral sex before.  In most of my projections where I've encountered female entities, I usually get lustful and start to let my hands wander on their body.  While this is in itself an extremely powerful and erotic experience, if you're not careful, it can usually END your projection because you become too excited to maintain control of the situation.

I really haven't found anyone on the astral that I could truly "sexually" connect with on a full blown scale.

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3.  Ever since childhood, I always wanted to "fly" into the TV, and experience the events of the program, first hand.  Of course, I knew it would be impossible, or so I thought.  After reading up on VRP (virtual reality projection), the idea came back to me.   Projecting while a TV is on, is it possible to fly into it and experience the events of the program?  In any case, would this even be considered a VRP?  Or would I be transfered to the site where the program was filmed instead?



While I have never flown into a picture or a TV, I would say you would probably be transported to a virtual reality type setting. However, it all depends on your mind, I suppose.

For example, consider the following possibilities.  When I project, if I see something on the TV and decide to fly into it, many things could happen.

1) I could simply fly THRU the TV, because my mind knows that I can pass through solid objects.

2) I could fly into the TV, everything becomes black (void-like), and after a feeling of motion, I could end up in an infinite number of places.

3) I could end up in a scene just like the one on the TV.  For example, if there was a nature show on right now, I may step into a forest or something similiar.

There are many different possibilities, and all of them are only limited by your mindset.

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4.  In the book, it was stated that any metallic and or gemstone items on the body during a projection attempt would most likely cause that particular body part to become "stuck" during the separation.  Well, does that mean I will have to wait for my dental appliances (braces) to be removed before I can successfully project?  Or is there another way around this unfortunate circumstance?  (On a side note, is someone whom has had dental fillings and or metallic plates implanted within their body incapable of ever projecting within their lifetime?)



You know, my view on metal objects is the same for any other object.  If you FEEL or THINK that an object is a hinderance, then it will be.  For example, I personally don't like to wear any metal (jewelry) on my body when I sleep.  I think this is more of a ritual than a rule.  Many of us have these rituals without even knowing it.  We do certain things because we think that it helps us achieve a certain goal.

So back to OBE's.  I used to think that wearing metal jewelry would prevent OBE's....until I had an OBE while wearing some!  Same goes for certain clothes.  People may tell you, "You shouldn't wear such and such."  Or positions: "You should lay with your head facing the North."  You're only hindered by your mind and what you believe.  

In my experience, I have had projections wearing jewelry, facing every geographical pole, and in almost every position (except sitting or standing!).  But if you BELIEVE that something is going to hinder you, then it probably will.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

ASunnieSpirit

hon,

i grew up with metal in my mouth for years (two set...ack!) and i still dreamed and had normal sleep cycles (except when they tightened it to the point of agony)[xx(]
OBEs and dreams are similar, unless you dont dream i wouldnt be worried.
Im walking on sunshine :)

Neo Schiavo

I have emailed Robert Bruce several times over the last week, and yet every time, I receive the same response:  "could not deliver message - system error"

Therefore, I have become a member of the Astral Pulse in hopes of contacting him.

I have read through the Astral Projection Treatise and found it to be rather disjointed - albeit, confusing.  Thus, I have purchased the book "Astral Dynamics:  A NEW Approach to Out-of-Body Experience."  After reading it cover-to-cover, I find many of my questions/concerns to be unanswered.  So, I decided on asking the source of this information.  Robert Bruce, in my opinion, is the best author on Astral related subjects ever.  Which is why I am certain he can easily answer my following inquiries:

1.  The illustration on the back cover of the book (Astral Dynamics) depicts the astral body as being unclothed.  Is this the case during all OBEs?  Or does your attire depend on what you were wearing before the projection?

2.  The term "astral sex" was briefly mentioned in the beginning of the treatise.  Interested with this concept, I searched the rest of the treatise for additional information.  But no avail.  Alternatively, I searched the web and yet, having read numerous articles regarding the subject, I have found no useful results.  Therefore, what exactly is "astral sex?"  The absence of physical organs has made me curious as to how it is performed.

3.  Ever since childhood, I always wanted to "fly" into the TV, and experience the events of the program, first hand.  Of course, I knew it would be impossible, or so I thought.  After reading up on VRP (virtual reality projection), the idea came back to me.   Projecting while a TV is on, is it possible to fly into it and experience the events of the program?  In any case, would this even be considered a VRP?  Or would I be transfered to the site where the program was filmed instead?

4.  In the book, it was stated that any metallic and or gemstone items on the body during a projection attempt would most likely cause that particular body part to become "stuck" during the separation.  Well, does that mean I will have to wait for my dental appliances (braces) to be removed before I can successfully project?  Or is there another way around this unfortunate circumstance?  (On a side note, is someone whom has had dental fillings and or metallic plates implanted within their body incapable of ever projecting within their lifetime?)

Thank you for your time.

By the way, if anyone else feels they have enough experience on the subject, I would greatly appreciate their input as well.  I'd just rather hear it from Robert Bruce himself, as he has been projecting for over 25 years.