Variable Lucid Dreams

[Amadeth]

I'm not sure if it is possible to project so close to the physical so that some of it's laws would still apply, but it is possible that you somehow imagined or knew you couldn't fly or pass through solid walls which would give the results you stated.
I haven't had similar expiriences so far.

[Nagual]

Personaly, the more lucid I am, the less odd things I can do...

I think it is just the mind that keeps thinking "it's impossible, you can't do that. it won't work.  it should be like that." over and over...  If you believe it won't work, it won't...  You have to try to forget the rational mind; don't pay attention to it.

Usually, I tend to just act and not think about it.  By example, many times I would find myself on the edge of a huge cliff/building and wonder "Am I going to jump?  Sure, it's just a dream.  But it looks so real; what if it is not a dream?" etc...  And it can go on for a long time, even if I know it is a dream; there is a part in me that don't wants to giveup.  So, I end up just happily jumping without listening to my thoughts...  Same with going through things.  If I think too much about it, I can't.

So, next time you think you can't fly, just go at the top of something and... jump!  Of course, be sure it's a dream first!!! []

[AndrewTheSinger]

Just for your convenience I would suggest you first put yourself to float up in the air, and then go through the window or down the cliff.

[jc84corvette]

I NEVER heard of LD's or dreams that are very variable, where as your "landscape" changes.

[Logic]

Thats happened to me a number of times, possibly becuase I lose lucidity at that point. Ill be completly aware Im dreaming and then something incredibly stupid will happen and everything will change.

[Centa Five]

Thanks to all of you for your comments, they were helpful.

[Hyperdimensional]

Centa Five,

If the projectable double is to close to your physical body then your double will have serious difficulties to move or fly..

When you have an AP don't try to stay to close to your physical body, 10 feet away or more.

Best regards

[Centa Five]

Maybe someone could explain why there are such differences in Lucid Dreams.  I understand that all dreams take place in the Astral.  Once I was in a dream where I was looking down at a harbor area and when I looked again most of the features in that harbor had completely changed which triggered my lucidity.  It was a very vivid and colorful dream which I could then direct. The people seemed solid and I could touch and move objects and I could also fly and my hand melted away near the end of the dream.

On another occasion projecting into a dream from the waking state which then became a Lucid Dream, all the people were solid and seemed normal, the environment seemed very stable and felt just like the physical plane, i.e. the hands looked normal, things didn't seem to change and flying was not possible.

My question is this - These two situations are dissimilar and I am wondering why?  Could they have each taken place on a different level in the Astral?  Could it relate to the proximity of the physical body to the double?  The reason I am wondering about the closeness to the physical body is that a couple of weeks ago I got tired of trying to exit and decided to just roll over on my left side and go to sleep and immediately found myself out of body and in a dimmly lit room.  I decided to fly but was only able to float up about 5 feet off the floor.  I floated over to a wall and tried to thrust my fist into it to see if it would go thru but after penetrating about 4" into the wall it got stuck.  I didn't panic, but just thought the fist back out of the wall and all was well.  I feel that nearness to the physical body may have accounted for this.  I'd appreciate any ideas you all may have on these events which were strange to me. Thanks.

                                            Centa Five