sub-navel Storage center & tan tein

[Cruel Tendencies]

The sub-navel storage center and the dantien are the same thing.  The sub-heart and sub-brow centers are sometimes called the middle and upper dantien, but from what I've seen they're not talk about that much in eastern-style literature.

The pathways are cleared when energy passes through them.  Doing the full-body circuit through the hands and feet, up your back, over your head, and back down to the sub-navel clears most of the energy body.  To clear the primary chakras, you'll need to do some work on them directly.  Also, general spiritual advancement tends to clear blockages normally, from what I can tell.  Meaning, the more spiritual a life you live, the better your energy flows.


Paul

[Centa Five]

The level of energy contained in the sub-navel center has no bearing on clearing channel blockages,  when it fills up the over-flow goes on up to the upper centers mentioned.

[Shadow20205]

Well isnt the back up dangerous if you cant/or dont know how to ground or get rid of it.[]

[Cruel Tendencies]

I wouldn't say it's dangerous, no.  It takes an extremely long time (lots of years here) of energy raising in order to completely fill the sub-navel.  Raise energy to your heart's content.  Grounding/centering is for when your energy is too active, such as high emotional states.  

The "danger" involved in clearing blockages and so forth comes from the fact that it takes a lot of energy to do so, and if your secondary system (small chakras in hands, feet, and everywhere else) isn't up to the task of pulling that energy in from the atmosphere, then it comes from your reserves in the sub-navel and upper storage areas.  This takes energy away from normal functions and can cause you to be fatigued and drained, cause headaches, etc..  Kind of like how you feel after doing ecstasy, if that reference means anything to you


Paul

[Mradtart]

Is it allright to feel slight piercing around a "blockage" area? Is it a good sign? Or maybe I'm not doing things right?

[Cruel Tendencies]

By piercing, do you mean painful?  Or the pins-and-needles sensation that's sometimes felt?  Sometimes removing blocks can be somewhat painful, as you're trying to move "solidified" energy through a pathway that's probably too small for it.  Basically, if you're feeling the energy, whether it's pleasant or not, you're doing things right.  The point is to be able to sense your energy and move it around at will.  Dealing with blockages and holes in your aura is part of that, and it doesn't always feel good.


Paul

[alpine9]

I haven't really done any NEW work, but I can still raise energy from my feet to my sub-navel storage center. When I do raise energy there it seems to spread out throug my body and makes me energized. That's why I said by just being able to fill the sub-navel center by raising energy, or breathing will your whole energy body develop naturaly and evenly.

I just laizy and don't want to do exchange ports and secondary centers.


In NEW's book RB said raising and storing energy will develop the energy body in a natural way.

[Cruel Tendencies]

I haven't read NEW in a while, but he may have been referring to the full-body circuit.  That's the one where you raise energy up your legs and back, over your head, down your face, neck, and chest, and into your sub-navel.  Doing that develops the energy body because there's energy passing through almost all the pathways.

My personal opinion, which is in no way anything close to expert, is that you're developing the pathways in your legs and neglecting the rest of the energy body.  It's not really a good idea, nor is it helpful in the long run.  You'll have to develop the rest of your pathways (torso, arms, neck, head, etc) before you can begin primary chakra work.  And that's when the real cool stuff begins


Paul

[alpine9]

If I just continue to fill my sub-navel through breathing only fo a few years what happens to all the stord energy? Will it cuircualte through my system and begin to energize my primary centers?

[Cruel Tendencies]

If you do the full-body circuit, or otherwise pass energy through the primary centers or up the spine, the major chakras will be activated somewhat.  If you don't actively move energy through the chakras, I'm not sure that they'll be energized much.  The energy that you have stored and "ready for use" goes into things like increasing your charm and charisma, general health and some other things.  

One thing I've noticed is that regular energy raising (and working on primary chakras, to a greater extent) increases the quality and speed of manifestation of events... if that makes any sense.  What I mean is, circumstances in your life are attracted and repulsed based on what's going on in you subconsciously.  Your "inner workings" translate into outter circumstances through your personal energy which I believe works through the energy centers in the palms of your hands.  

But really, if you've been doing energy raising for a few months there's no reason not to start on your primary chakras, in my opinion.  The effect is far more pronounced than when you're using just the secondary energy system.


Paul

[Risu no Kairu]

I don't believe it takes years to fill un the subnavel storage area.

I think it depends on how you do your energy work and how often.

[FistOfFury]

What is grounding? Centering?

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by FistOfFury

What is grounding? Centering?

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i can do that by medityating and i cenre it works 9body goes dead with pins and needle all over) is that a good thing?

does any one know how to use the energey within to like attack  like in starwars ha ha (the force ) etc.

[alpine9]

what would happen if I Stored energy all the way up to my sub-brow storage center?

[KenYang]

quote:Originally posted by Cruel Tendencies

I haven't read NEW in a while, but he may have been referring to the full-body circuit.  That's the one where you raise energy up your legs and back, over your head, down your face, neck, and chest, and into your sub-navel.  Doing that develops the energy body because there's energy passing through almost all the pathways.

My personal opinion, which is in no way anything close to expert, is that you're developing the pathways in your legs and neglecting the rest of the energy body.  It's not really a good idea, nor is it helpful in the long run.  You'll have to develop the rest of your pathways (torso, arms, neck, head, etc) before you can begin primary chakra work.  And that's when the real cool stuff begins


Paul

That sounds like Microcosmic Orbit.
http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/micro.html

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by KenYang

quote:Originally posted by Cruel Tendencies

I haven't read NEW in a while, but he may have been referring to the full-body circuit.  That's the one where you raise energy up your legs and back, over your head, down your face, neck, and chest, and into your sub-navel.  Doing that develops the energy body because there's energy passing through almost all the pathways.

My personal opinion, which is in no way anything close to expert, is that you're developing the pathways in your legs and neglecting the rest of the energy body.  It's not really a good idea, nor is it helpful in the long run.  You'll have to develop the rest of your pathways (torso, arms, neck, head, etc) before you can begin primary chakra work.  And that's when the real cool stuff begins


Paul

That sounds like Microcosmic Orbit.
http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/micro.html

perfect an full bofy circuit just wat u need however ur body legs etc will go dead and bla bla so on
when this happens its verrrrrryyyy annoying personally my butt goes num lol[][8][8][][][8][]

[alpine9]

Anybody know what would happend if your stored energy reache your sub-brow?

[alpine9]

Is there a differance betwen the two?


If you raise energy and fill only your sub-navel center will it eventual clear the blockages in the rest of the energy body. Ie:tetary, secondary, and primary centers. Or will the energy only fill the sub-heart, and sub-brow.




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