Astral noises/voices

[Van-Stolin]

While in trance I have also heard voices, but none of them have talked to me, before I talk to them.  How ever there is a spirit that I have listened and talked to in my spare time, she is real nice, to bad she doesn't seem to be around right now.[]  But I am sure she will be back, she always goes away on wednesday and returns the next.[]

[Nick]

Hi Avalon,

When in Focus 12, I will often hear all manner of sounds. Sometimes a loud crash, pop or bang will occur. Other times I have clearly heard my name called (to answer your question regarding whether having heard anyone "talking" to us). Another member, Frank, reported hearing music. So it is a fairly common occurrence. Also Frank, while phasing, has had communication with his guide. It may be that you are hearing from your guide.

While I switched from obe to astral phasing last spring, the sounds I mention will occur in Focus 12. The "focus levels" being as described by Robert Monroe. See also the "sticky" topic "Phasing Methods" for a rundown of focus levels (also in the Astral Consciouness forum). Other good "sticky" topics you might want to read are: "Achieving consciousness stste for astral phasing" and "Gateway wave 1 pointers".


Very best,

[Focus15]

Hey guys;
Check this lady out and her book,""The Interstate of Consciousness", it will answer a lot of your questions.
Also check her discussion forum for Q&A..!!

Here's the link:

http://www.qcentral.com/basics.html

Blessing
Focus15

[Avalon]

Thanks Nick and Focus 15.  I will definitely check out the sticky's on phasing and it looks as if the website also covers visual images during meditation as well.  Again, the images seemed to be symbolic in nature and left me wondering what they meant.

Van Stolin, maybe next time I'll speak back to them.  All I could think at the time was "remember those words, remember what they are saying".

Thanks again!

Avalon

[Tenacious]

Avalon-

I have had the same thing.  However it was not 1 person, it was like a train station, but everyone was talk to me.  I couldn't quite pick out one to listen to, because they were talking so fast.  So yes, I also have had "people" talking to me, but I try to ignore it.


-Tenacious[]

[Avalon]

Thanks Tenacious.  Sometimes I think it might be egotistical to think these voice were talking to me about me.[]

My original expectation of Astral noise was that the sounds would be indistinguishable.  These voices were the first I experienced and did not meet the criteria of my expectations.

I think I felt they were important because of the way I felt I recieved them.  They were like whispers in my ear.  Equally puzzling was in the order I received them (male first in the right ear and female following in the left ear).  It seemed like they were something private that only I was supposed to hear.  And I felt compelled to remember their message.  

Okay, so, maybe I am reading too much into it.[]

[Tenacious]

Avalon- From what I remember, my experience was very close to yours.  I head a mix of male/female voices, but they were too fast for me to actually hear what they were trying to tell me.  I haven't heard them in a while, but thats because I have not been practicing since the start of the school year.  Now i have some time to practice

-Tenacious[]

[Birm]

Greetings,

In my opinion:

The noises you hear are the usual hypnagogic sounds that happen when the projection process begins. Just like the hypnagogic images that appear when you close your eyes and concentrate on your closed eyelids, concentrating on your ears makes the effect. But there is a difference:

Hearing sensation is strongly related to talking because that is the way we communicate with each other. When you see hypnagogic images you just watch them and try to react by looking at different angles. And when you hear hypnagogic sounds you try to react to them by talking. It is as simple as this.

When you try to communicate with these hypnagogic sounds by talking you will hear your inner voice but they will not answer usually. Experience it if you dont agree with me.

We use words and sentences to express our emotions and thoughts. It is very common that we translate our thoughts into sentences. When we are projecting our mind works in a different way. We are not translating our thoughts into sentences when we are asleep. Instead we are translating our thoughts and emotions into images and sounds. These are what you see and hear: your Thoughts and your Emotions.

Make experiments with the sounds and images. You will understand what i mean. Astral is a different world with different senses and different reactions, dont ever forget this.
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[Avalon]

Hi Birm!

I usually am pretty aware of my hypnogognic experiences especially when I'm trying to project simply because I feel like I'm starting to fall asleep when I experience them.  I end up waking myself up.  And I've always felt they were a bit "dreamy" or fuzzy like I've lost a bit of control over my thoughts.  During meditation, some of the experiences seem so much clearer.  Does that make sense?  Maybe that's were my confusion comes from.  I tried to "label" the experience based on something that I'd already experienced but found incongruencies upon doing that.

I have also considered that the voices I heard were my inner self, higher self, or whatever you want to call it. Or even more simply, my own perceptions of myself. If I thought I knew what I had heard, I wouldn't have asked for others' experiences and opinions. So, thanks for your input!

I will experiment with the sounds though.  It's something to do until I actually "get out".

Thanks again to everyone for your responses!

[shaman]

The hypnagonic state can be reached by falling asleep (normal way) or by trying to OBE (then you are more lucid and might be more aware of it). One way or another it is the same. You can see images, pictures, like in a dream, you can hear voices, sound... I sometimes even hear music. Or I hear some very clear voices: "you will die or get very sick in April" was one of them... It is entirely normal. For the scientifics it is probably like dreams, otherwise it might be an open door to the astral world. Anyhow, I have noticed that these are very different and very distinct from the dreams themselves, as it happens sometimes in the morning. I have a dream and as I start to wake up I got some hypnagonic sound/picture (A/V - audio visual effects... [] ) that are not at all realted to the dream I just dreamed, as if comming from another place in my brain or another place in the astral. Or maybe the dream comes from my brain and the hypnagonic A/V comes from the astral... not sure.

[Alvick H.]

I have heard a few strange things. The first ,I recall, sounded like a man screaming right into my left ear.  The voice sounded very angry, and I am almost positive it was talking directly to me.  I tried, but could not remember what he said by the time I could sit up in my bed.  One time I heard what reminded me of 100 creatures talking at once.  They were not speaking in English, and they didn't even sound human.  I heard it once and made it go away, then I decided to listen again and it came back to me.  Before hearing these creatures both times, I heard some kind of "fade in" sound.  I don't remember what it was like, but it was weird how that happened. One time I heard a man say "It's about time Adam, I've been in your house for eight minutes now."  That usually would freak me out, but he sounded nice.  I don't know what any of this means, but it was nice to hear that it happens to other people too.

[Risu no Kairu]

I think I might have heard voices screaming, once, but I don't quite recall. Probably not, though, since I don't remember.

The first time I heard noise, it sounded like one long sheet of paper being ripped in two. It was coming from the area of my ceiling fan, so it was probably that.

I've heard music, too. The music, however, I don't understand. I'll just be sitting, trying to get the proper state of mind for projection, start to nod off, and suddenly it sounds like a radio station playing current hits getting louder and louder, then I realize what it is, and snap back to body sensory awareness. :/

[jc84corvette]

I always get a buzzing, although many say its always there but we do not hear it.

[jc84corvette]

quote:Originally posted by Risu no Kairu

I think I might have heard voices screaming, once, but I don't quite recall. Probably not, though, since I don't remember.

The first time I heard noise, it sounded like one long sheet of paper being ripped in two. It was coming from the area of my ceiling fan, so it was probably that.

I've heard music, too. The music, however, I don't understand. I'll just be sitting, trying to get the proper state of mind for projection, start to nod off, and suddenly it sounds like a radio station playing current hits getting louder and louder, then I realize what it is, and snap back to body sensory awareness. :/

music! Was it high pitch?

[NightWolf89]

can anyone of u tell me how i can get to the point where i can hear voices because i can get into the point where iam paralyzed and my body gets real heavy so yea plz reply back thnx.

[Risu no Kairu]

What do you mean by "high pitch?" It sounded just like it does on the radio. It was playing 'current hit' music.

[Avalon]

I have yet to consciously project and have had only one spontaneous projection that I am aware of.  Although, I believe I had many as a child.  I had a recurring dream of a person being in my room.  My recollection was that it seemed to be a male presence but I was very young, probably not quite 5 yo yet.  It scared me to death.  Now I believe it was my spirit guide.

I'm 34 yo now and have recently began trying to consciously project.  I've not been successfuly but have had many eye opening experiences during meditation and trance.

I know many people report hearing voices and sounds before projection.  My question is whether or not anyone has ever heard people talking directly to them.  I've heard voices like they were spoken right into my ear.  The first time, I heard a male speaking in my right ear, he said "She keeps returning to the place from which she came".  Then a few seconds later, I heard a female voice in my left ear, I do not remember the words.  The voices sounded very electronic.

I have tried like hell to figure out what those words meant.  I'm pretty sure no one can interpret this for me as it was a personal message for me.  

I wondered if anyone has had a similar experience.  If so, were you able to interpret what meaning they had, if the meaning wasn't clear?  These voices didn't seem to be admonishing me, just general observations.  I didn't feel like they were trying to keep me from projecting, but offering advice that I wasn't aware of.  

I would like to add that I don't hear these voices while going about my day.  I've only heard them during meditation and trance.  []

Avalon