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Why don't they make me lucid...?

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Risu no Kairu

There could be any number of reasons why, really.

Maybe they're a different part of your mind, so when it becomes lucid, so do they?

Maybe they're  beings visiting you to try and teach you something, but you become aware and they're like "ah, crap. Well, this lesson's ruined. Way to go, genius..."

Or something else, you know?
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Centa Five

When you are in a lucid dream you should be in control. Try to examine your thoughts when you become lucid to ascertain if it might just be you imagining them to be interested/aggressive.

jc84corvette

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Originally posted by Centa Five

When you are in a lucid dream you should be in control. Try to examine your thoughts when you become lucid to ascertain if it might just be you imagining them to be interested/aggressive.



Yes you are correct. You should have 100% controll in LD.

beavis

The astral entities dont tell you you are dreaming because the dream is normal reality for them. When you become lucid and start thinking you're in control of everybody there or its not real, they might get upset.

Nagual

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When you are in a lucid dream you should be in control

Yes, that's the theory.  But there are many different levels of lucidity...  Sometimes my lucidity is high; other times it is low...

Basicaly, when I become lucid, I just think about what I am going to do/experiment...  Then, that's when the annoying guys come.  And I did not pay attention or tried to control them before.  Also, they don't seem to be upset/angry; it's more like "hungry"; they have a wild look in their eyes.  Just imagine you open a door and you run into a lion that did not eat for 10 days...

Most of the time I try to find friends, but so far I only met "stupid" puppets/actors/fake people or wild annoying guys...  Maybe it's all in my head... [:(]
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

themadness

I think they may be an extension of your mind. That's just my interpretation on this. However, even if they are outside your mind I'd recommend just doing some simple purification actions before hand. Burn some sacred incense or recite some holy lines. If you do find a high degree of lucidity some night maybe experiment and ask them who they are and what are they seeking?

Nagual

I tried to talk with them many times... but they apparently don't want to.  I mean the wild guys.  The dumb guys do answer; but most of the time their answer is either illogic or out of context or plain dumb...  One reason they don't want to talk to me could be that I feel safer when I talk...  Hum... just imagine yourself trying to talk an hungry wolf into leaving you alone... good luck! [;)]

I would tend to agree that it might be my imagination since, in the end, all of them seems not very bright; not as bright as "real" evolved beings should be.  I guess I need more testing...
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

jc84corvette

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Originally posted by Nagual

I tried to talk with them many times... but they apparently don't want to.  I mean the wild guys.  The dumb guys do answer; but most of the time their answer is either illogic or out of context or plain dumb...  One reason they don't want to talk to me could be that I feel safer when I talk...  Hum... just imagine yourself trying to talk an hungry wolf into leaving you alone... good luck! [;)]

I would tend to agree that it might be my imagination since, in the end, all of them seems not very bright; not as bright as "real" evolved beings should be.  I guess I need more testing...



LOL! What do you expect from dumb people? Dumb answers ofcourse![:D]

Nick

Hi Nagual,

This topic is better suited to our Lucid Dream forum rather than Astral Consciousness so it has been moved.


Very best,
"What lies before us, and what lies behind us, are tiny matters compared to what lies within us...." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Nagual

From my experience, when I am not lucid in a dream, all other people just act, following the dream's "story"...  But, as soon as I become lucid, some of them immediatly notice it and become interested/aggressive/predators-like...  I could compare it to the Matrix movie when neo an co. are located by the matrix and people suddenly transfrom in agents...  It's like if being lucid "opens a door" that let them do whatever they are trying to do...

So, my question:  If they are so interested in me only when I am lucid; why don't they come by and tell me I am dreaming to make me become lucid...?
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?