Interesting Energy Body Insight

[beavis]

I know the kind of energy you describe exists, but I've seen no evidence of an energy body. It could be a delusion caused by thinking you always have to have a body. I've felt like I was in one, but the distrust of my interpretation must be high because most humans dont remember ever not having a body.

[TheSeeker]

Yes Ramiel, when I practice NEW, I go over my whole body, and I get my whole body to that state, it feels like I'm humming all over, or buzzing as you said.

[Ramiel]

Seeker what process do you go through after reaching this state, to achieve and OBE or an AP? I know its different for everyone, but if there is a way to use this 'energy body' awareness to assist in the process then it might make it quicker and easier to achieve such a thing.

Regards,

-Alex

[TheSeeker]

Well I cannot currently conciously project, due to lack of consistant practice.  But I believe any method is easier to use once you get to this point.  I can get into trance this way, mind awake, body asleep, I just focus on the buzzing and my breath.

The rope exercise seems good, but I usually try to create the feeling of rising up, like the way you feel going up in an elevator.

[ralphm]

I have felt intense energies flowing, and I think they could be due to intense cleansing energies, kundalini, or just some sort of spiritual ectasy.

[Ramiel]

Well I was experimenting with OBE/AP and the steps required to achieve them, and I came across an interesting insight.

I've mentioned a number of times that I have been able to 'manipulate' my energy so I lose awareness of my body, well I realised that I wasn't so much losing awareness of my body as much as I was gaining awareness of my energy body, which took over from being aware of the physical one.

I'm not sure if this is what it really is, however I cannot think why I would FEEL this energy throughout my body after I "set it up" inside myself. What else would it be other than my energy body?

Controlling it seems to be difficult, I havn't tried that much yet, but tactile imaging works wonders it appears. Has anyone else gotten to this stage or felt this as well? It feels like your limbs are buzzing but you can just TELL its not them, its something else..

Thanks,

-Alex