Finally made it - took me 9 years...

[m0d0]

Congratulations Steel Hawk,

Its great that you kept with all this time and refused to give up. Well done.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

Now that's dedication! Huge congratulations on your efforts and your success! []
You've given me a couple of new things to try out as well, thanks! []

[Kristina]

Good job!!!  Now, practice practice practice!!!  You must continue to push yourself, but don't forget to relax and allow the experience to come to you.  Know that it is yours to have.  It is a little bit of a balancing act.

I like that you have named your subconscious, that must make it easier to communicate with it.  I may try that myself!

The easiest way to overcome astral blindness is simply to state firmly "vision NOW."  Your vision should instantly snap into focus.  I find that I can go from almost complete blindness to seeing incredible details of things, sometimes almost too much detail!  Whatever you want in the astral, just state firmly "(command) NOW."  You will have it immediately.  The most important ones in my opinion are "control now," "awareness now," and "vision now."

Oh, and also your vision will improve automatically the further you move from your body.

Enjoy!

[purelight]

First of all congrats for your success!!!
Wow 9 years! That's too long! Why so many years?
I 've heard it could take weeks,months or 1 or 2 years.
Anyway i practice 4 months and have a obe a litle above my body.

Good work and keep practicing!!!

[Jeff_Mash]

Steel, great post!  Congratulations.  Nothing beats the first OBE, I don't care what they say!  It gets better from here, but you'll always remember your first.

Um....I am talking about OBE's right?  Hehehe.

Anyway, to help with the blindness, take it from me who suffered with no sight for almost a year before getting the hang of it.

First, make sure you're calm.  The more excited and rushed you feel when you get out (and it's hard not to feel those things) will hinder your sight.

Second, when you are calm and still have trouble seeing, take a few deep astral breaths.  You will be surprised at how real it feels, and how the air seems to go into your body.  Imagine yourself becoming more grounded and lucid as you do this, and your eyesight will start to kick in.

Third, don't try to do this too close to your physical body.  At least not when you're a beginniner.  Most people find that moving 10+ feet away and then trying to see (or walk or do anything else) is much easier.  There is less of a pull on you.

Fourth, take control.  Demand your astral vision to kick in.  Say out loud, "Clarity now" or "My vision is now coming in!"  You may be surprised at how things bend to your will in that environment.

Fifth, when all else fails, use your imagination.  Imagine that you're about to put on "magic seeing glasses."  Then try to put them on, and watch what happens.  I did something similar to this when I was having trouble flying one time.  I imagined that I had mini-rockets installed on the bottom of my shoes, and BOOM!  I was flying in no time!

Hope that helps!

[izzy-in]

oooh yar  there is hope for me yet... congrates on getting out (9 years) wow,

i first felt the vibrations 13 years ago then again 9 years ago - was woken while out then snaped back in (arg) 2 weeks ago.....

i've gota be close now - if you can, then I can (please!)

get some good advise and go with what feels/sounds right

see you out there

[Osman]

The astral blindness is coming from your room, not you.

When i attempt to astral project at night often from the paralysis scary state, everything is dark but i can hear and feel.

However when i attempt to project during daylight, i can see the whole room clearly, even my arms and body and everything.

If you are attempting to project during daylight, make sure your body is physically tired ( excersice )and ur in a passive state of mind with nothing to distrub you, no deadlines meetings etc. no worries.

When you attempt to project during light, i suggest you use a special sunlight lamp. Not too bright and not too dim.
you can get one from http://www.technoscout.com
The darkness in your room programs a subconcious message that you cannot see at all.

Its all internal programming, WE ARE WHAT WE THINK WE ARE.

[Swaroop]

Wow....you are incredible steelhawk!!!

When I astrral project once, it takes me another 15 days approximately to do another AP,,,,the other 14 days, I try in vain...and...I couldnt tolerate it!!!

But u waited for nine years!
I have a leson to learn from u!!![:O][:O][:O]

[Steel Hawk]

Well I haven't been trying every day for the past nine years... just off and on.. At first I was too scared (astral noises, etc)... It takes a lot of work to be mentally enough prepared. One thing I would suggest to someone who's on their wits end not able to project:

Stay up for 24 hrs.. enough so that at the time you don't feel tired anymore. Then goto bed but stay awake. Worked for me at least.

[Dragen]

Steel Hawk,
Congratulations!  You did it!

9 Years... man, now THAT'S patience!!!!  [:O]

Good luck on your ventures!  []

[The Bard]

Congratulations![]

[darkangel13]

congratulations! 9 years, geez, good job[]... about the vision thing, all i do is open my eyes - my astral eyes, not my physical eyes - that isn't the best thing to do tho, cuz sometimes i open my physical eyes, and no one wants to be near me (for their own safety, hehe) if i come that close and then just open my eyes! hehe, no but i'm sure all you have to do is say something like 'vision now'....i've never quite done that, but that's the type of thing i do when in a lucid dream....again, congratulations man, patience is a virtue, hehe
        -Kristina

[dkj400]

Wow, congratulations. 9 years is too long for me. I have to result to BrainWave Generator.

[Steel Hawk]

First I just want to say thank you to Robert Bruce for creating the most complete and awesome astral projection book I have ever read, Astral Dynamics.

I'm 22 now, I've been trying to project off and on since I was 13. At first I was terrfied of the experience, hearing voices, feeling like a ghost was lifting me off the bed, etc. I have astraly projected before but I was always stuck to my body, got scared, or couldn't see.

Enough background, heres what happened.

I'm usually awake between 10am-2am. Due to my job screwing with my schedule it's been different.

Mon: 10am - still up (full moon)
Tue: still up - 630pm
Wed: 345am - 400pm - sleep - 600pm - present

I've learned some sleep deprevation will make it alot easier to project (at least for me). So I took the oppurtunity to attempt an OBE.

So, today (wednesday) I'm about to goto sleep and I look through Astral Dynamics for a few minutes to get my mind on the subject. I then lie down on my back. An hour of being in a medium trance I still feel no vibrations. So I break the trance and roll to my side.

I then focus on each of my charkas opening them and imagining power radiating from them, drawing more power in. I start at my base then work up to the crown. I then tell my subconcious (which I've named) that I want help projecting, no I want it to force me to project. I concentrate on the ringing in my ears, my breathing, repeat focusing on my charkas. Eventually after clearing my mind and "following" the ringing in my ears I start getting the vibrations.

(All the while my mom is vacuming and playing loud music a room away)

I start to hear voices talking and strange sensations. I then imagine myself shooting up, I imagine the sensation of my feet on the floor and I jump like superman into the sky. I do this a couple of times then focus on being as light as a cloud floating up.

Then some how I'm out of my body. I can move and sit up (I actually thought for a second that I had just moved my real body in a sitting up position). I was actually able to open my eyes and see my door in a grayish color for a few seconds, I decided to go through it and I got put back on my body, I was able to get out again but I felt like I was some how stuck.. or just disoriented like a new born trying to walk.

Well I never gave up and I was eventually able to see.. somewhat. I just wanted to thank all of you who believe.. I was a skeptic of religion for so long and this proved to me that there is something behind the scenes, that I am a spirit inside a meat body.

I read in Roberts book (which is freakin awesome!!!) that if I don't have astral sight when I project to draw in more energy. Unfortuantly I read it after the fact..

So I'll try that next time. Any suggestions on this? Astral blindness?

Thanks!

And don't give up.[]