Need Help Getting Fully Lucid!

[Nay]

LOL..I have been there!  My problem is I don't question things as much as I should.
Example...This is what I do...
Oh, so there is a two headed guy standing there, drooling all over his shirt?...uhhhh..go figure, cool!  
Instead, I should be saying....OMG! there is a two headed guy standing there!  I am DREAMING!  bingo...go lucid!

I have no idea why I am this way....I think it has something to do with the left and right sides of the brain.  Isn't one side analytical, and the other emotional? (someone post and give me the run down on that please. [])  So, apparently I don't use the analytical side too often..Hehehehe, thus making it dang near impossible to question what is going on in my dreams.  I have found tho, that if ya just go with the flow, wow, can some dreams be fantastic!

Some say that several times a day you should give yourself little reality checks..like..am I dreaming right now?..really stop and wonder if you really are dreaming. It seems to work, but for me personally, I forget to do them consistantly. []  Maybe it will work for you?..

Good luck

Nay.[]

[holy reality]

the problem with reality checks is you cannot reality check what he is describing

you NEVER notice the clock say 11:79 or that you cannot find a passage in a book you just read, or on a web page...

those things just don't happen in real life... so when they happen in dream you just sit there like an idiot scouring over the website 5 or 6 times trying to find what you just read, and that can consume an entire very long dream

i guess the only way to combat that is every time you read a typo or something that doesn't quite make sense to you in real life, ask yourself "am i dreaming?" and also... THINK really hard about how stupid it is for you to not pickup on those obvious dream cues and tell yourself multiple times a day that anytime you read something that doesn't make a lot of sense or see a weird time that you'll know you're dreaming

i think the only thing that standard reality checks help with is lucidity in general, ala, compatability with most dreams, but they don't help you target you recurring dream patterns

like i always dream about sleeping and i never second guess what i'm doing in a bed other than my own with who knows what weird stuff going on around me

and i once an a while dream about waking up at 3:00 and watching porn, despite not having any porn/movie channels... yet i've NEVER gone lucid no matter how much i think about that during the day

and... sometimes i'll "discover" that we got a ton of new cable channels.. yet... same situation, never realize it's a dream... and I do upon waking up think very heavily about how whenver I see something like that it 100% means I'm dreaming, but I still never seem to catch on

my only idea is that that part of the brain responsible for reading is SO screwed up while dreaming (this is true) that when you read something strange your mind just makes up random things to assure you that it's real and that it makes sense to you, so reading things does not make a good reality check in dream?

drinking however, looking at the hands, looking at clocks, eating, going to the bathroom... if you could force yourself to automatically ask "am i dreaming" and really think about it, maybe try flying... each time you do one of those things...

90% of your dreams would probably be lucid.

hmm.

[jilola]

To be really effective the reality check must involve you physically doing something that if it succeeds will let you realize you're dreaming. It also has to be an automatic action and has to be firmly associated with the statement "If I succeed in <whatever> I'm dreaming" or the question "Am I dreaming?". I think the former is better since it associate the action and the discovery.

Also beware of learning to respond to, say, an alarm clock by doing the reality check. It works nicely when you're awake and have the alarm set but it fails when you're msleeping. That kind of conditioned responses do exactly that, they condition you to perform the check as a response t the alarm and who has an alarm go off regularly during the night. And when an alarm sounds we usually wake up.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[kozzi]

That's funny.  I've easily convinced myself that absurd situations in dreams have some credibility, and have woken up with a laughing frustration for not having realized that I was dreaming.  It's alright though, because I know that I'll have other experiences.  I lucid dream a lot now, and I really believe that dream recall is the key.  Also, I've gone a long time through life thinking about lucid dreams and wishing I could focus more on becoming aware in dreams.  Finally, one idea seems to help me the most.  I've begun to consider all memorable dreams lucid.  I used to not want to say that, because lucid dreams are clear right?  But they're aren't necessarily all clear.  I've had plenty of lucid dreams where everything is very blurry and hard to focus on, and even the recognition of being in a dream state seems to come and go throughout the dream.  Now I try not to make a big deal out of whether or not I have a lucid dream.  I try to relax, and I try to calmly persuade myself into the "lucid dream mood" before bed and while falling asleep.  I like to picture the moon in a star-filled sky at night, while flying over the moonlit clouds.  It's so beautiful, and it typically induces that dreamy, wishful state before a good night's sleep.

Kozzi

[Aries]

I always know I am dreaming... often if I dont like the dream, Im just like
"F*ck this. Next dream." Wake up for a min then go back to sleep and start over...
-Aries

[darkangel13]

quote: I always know I am dreaming... often if I dont like the dream, Im just like
"F*ck this. Next dream." Wake up for a min then go back to sleep and start over...

i wish i could be that lucky, hehe... it's not quite lucid dreaming tho, but it's cool... i actually did that last week.  i had a dream that my not-quite-yet boyfriend's [] ex-girlfriend was pregnant, and even though it wasn't by him, i was not too happy with it... so i got up and went back to sleep, having basically the same dream except with me in the place of her, and that it was his baby, hehe

my dream recall has always been pretty good, so that wouldn't be my problem... one night i remembered 14 dreams[] and i wrote them all down as i remembered them gradually throughout the day...

the thing is, nearly every night, i'm conscious enough to turn around a dream if i don't like where it's going, but not fully conscious... for example, last night in a dream some friends and i were in an old haunted house exploring, and the cops came to arrest us... i didn't like that so i told my friends not to worry b/c i found a fish thought to be extinct living in the marsh around the house (i think i pulled that from sabrina the teenage witch - one of the movies was on a few weeks ago, lol)....so the cops didn't arrest us...but if i was fully lucid i could've made the cops fall into a lake so i could keep exploring, and think of things to find in the house... oh well, i can keep hoping and trying...
           Kristina >^x^<

[APGuy]

quote:Originally posted by Nay

So, apparently I don't use the analytical side too often..
I've easily convinced myself that absurd situations in dreams have some credibility

I read that the reason that one does not realize the absurd situations in dreams is because the cerebreal cortex shuts down while we're asleep.  It's responsable for all of our more "conscious" aspects logic, memory, etc.  But that's why reality checks work, the habit part of the brain doesn't shut down.  Also as far as wake induced is concerned I guess we just manage to keep the cerebreal cortex functioning somehow.[|)]

[loco]

Holy Reality mentioned the looking at your hands method.
It really worked for me, actually, this is how I sterted my first lucid dreams and jumped into all this stuff...just by looking at my hands in a dream.

[Nagual]

Here is the "ultimate" trick:  If you are wondering (even slightly) wether it is a dream or not... it is a dream.  Simple! [|)]

So, next time you feel the need to prove it, it is already done; the fact that you are not sure is your proof.

Have fun!

[FrogNettle]

It's funny the things we choose to question.  Instead of "why am I in a circle of girls talking about vibrators," I chose to question why one of the girls, being a hippie, shaved her pubic hair.  I logically came to the conclusion that she didn't want her pubic hair popping out of her underwear, and I accepted that even though I could clearly see her pubic hair doing just that.  Quite strange this.. dreaming, business.

[gamer666]

I have question if things were dreams or not before and they weren't
maybe its just because i may have something wrong with my head.  Well, anyways would being lucid help you if you can't rember your dreams.  I wanted to remember dreams and I did without a notebook.  Then I found out about lucid dreams and was scared i would do womething bad and it turned out to not be a dream.  So then I stopped remembering my dreams.  I hope this wasn't too non-contributive.


good bye

[darkangel13]

hello gamer666
don't worry about how much your post related to the topic, the topic was pretty much dead anyway, hehe...

quote:Then I found out about lucid dreams and was scared i would do womething bad and it turned out to not be a dream.

i know the feeling of wondering if something was a dream or not, but there's an easy way to make sure you're dreaming or not when you're lucid.  for example, if in you're dream you're alone, say something like "a goldfish with legs should walk up the street", or something that couldn't and wouldn't happen in the physical.  if you're in a group of people and you don't want to say something like that in front of them, say something more casual like "it would be funny if it started snowing right about now" (if it isn't already snowing, hehe)
The thing is, while you're having a lucid dream, i can almost guarantee you you will know it's a dream, so it's really not much too worry about
 hope this helps
     -Kristina

[volcomstone]

becoming lucid is a task and a half, you must use much preperation before you go to sleep,

its hard to pick out the "impossible" happenings in a dream, Ive had lucid dreams where everything seems normal and i get this sudden urge in a department store or on the street , and I start flying,

also dreams where Im back in the high school Ive already graduated from really sets off the lucidity

once I become aware I rub my hands together, and yell out "INCREASE LUCIDITY"

also if you ever get shot in the stomach by a shotgun at close range, and it doesn't hurt, then your dreaming. If it does hurt, then that means that those fourteen burritos you polished off earlier that night is playing havok in your entrails.

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[darkangel13]

oftentimes i get into a semi-lucid state, but i can't actually prove to myself that i'm dreaming... for example, every time i try to use a phone in a dream i always mess up the numbers and try many times, never (or very, very rarely) getting it right... last night i had a dream that i was trying to dial a number... i tried and tried, but couldn't do it...then, i consciously thought to myself 'wow, i'm having as much trouble dialling the number as i do when i'm dreaming'....how dull is that?! lol..... how do i prove to myself while semi-lucid that i am, in fact dreaming?
         thanx,
          Kristina >^x^<