Really confused.........

[Fat_Turkey]

Well you see, when people say remember that just means like, you go to a themepark, go on a roller coaster, and get off. You feel and experience everything you did in real-time, and afterwards you remembered the experience as being totally awesome.

The only problem arises in AP when you experience all these things, come back to your body, and just can't remember them. So you still have all the fun (ride the roller coaster), but you don't remember anything from it. That is just a problem, it can be worked on.

~FT

[kiauma]

OBE is an altered state of consciousness.  You are yourself, but not like your normal self.  Everything is very vivid, the experience is absolutely incredible.  It is not like a normal dream, everything feels absolutely real, though on recollection it is very surreal.

Keep practicing deep relaxation and concentration and you will find out!  [8D]

[crazy_colombiang]

So i am acting as myslef and do what i want to do when i project, but the difference is that i am not in my physichal body.right?

[kiauma]

Someone here, I think it was Mr. Mash, siad that many have have defined trance (a necessary precursor to OBE) as being when the mind is awake and the body is asleep, but he said that definition should be that the mind is conscious while the body is asleep.

It is an altered state of consciousness.  With practice you should be able to 'awaken' more and more consciousness while the body remains asleep, thus have more and more conscious control, though that is beyond my experience.

You will simply have to do what we have had to do, and go there yourself.  []

[crazy_colombiang]

I can go into a trance, is just that sometimes if i keep my mind blank, I think my subconcious takes over andi fall asleep,I have never fallen asleep, thats the good thing.
When i am done trying to project my body feels like heavy when i move it, kind of like i just woke up.

[kiauma]

Intensify the heaviness in your imagination.  Imagine you are so heavy and relaxed that your muscles liquify and flow off of your bones spreading out and covering your bed.

Also, imagining you are falling in infinity is good.

OBE is about disassociation from your body, which can be exploited.

[crazy_colombiang]

From what I have read, a projection or OOBE is just like a dream that you might remember.
Is not like "I am going to go to the store, know that you are there, do whatever you want, go back to the car and know that you did all of those things a couple of minutes ago"(or is it?)
I thought it was like ok I am out of my body, nice!, I am going to brazil or china, talk to some other projector, go back to my body and be like, awesome I just went to brazil!!Or china!!!(or is it like that?)
thanks for answering my question

                       ~*~Daniel~*~