Visualizing sex leads to remote viewing? (Pic!)

[kiauma]

Perhaps the excitation served to raise your energy level.  If you suspec this to be true, you may want to check out some energy raising exercises and try it again in the future.

[Tolvor]

Well usually when I visualize, I try to do it by the book, visualize myself getting up, going to the bathroom, and combing my hair, or all the steps required for me to go outside and around the house, or running through exactly what I'll do when I OBE.  For me anything that brings attention back to my own body is a bad thing, and sexual visualization generally does just that.  Who knows, it might work for you.  As for me, I haven't RV or OBEd yet, so I'm still way behind you.

To validate the RV it wouldv'e been easier had you gotten a license plate number, along with the car color.  That can easily be verified.  A license plate alone won't work as you could guess one at random and still match a plate (there's a lot of vehicles in CA).

Thanks for your description of your astral sight as it is the kind of information I might be able to use when I get closer.

[cube]

kiauma,
I expect being excited did aide in activating my 3rd eye. I've been doing breathing excersizes off and on to raise energy and I experience strong vibrations with deep breaths but I really have no idea what that means other than that's what happens.

Tolvor,
When this happened I was actually not trying to do anything unusual, I wasn't trying to RV or AP, and maybe that's significant because the one time I OBE'd I hadn't planned on doing it.

The images were way too blurry to pick out a number, I'm attaching an image of what the Outlook Express image looked like. There's no way to tell anything about it other than the big features.

I suppose I should also mention that I was just laying there visualizing for fun with no purpose in mind, I wasn't moving any part of my body. All of a sudden I started to get all these visuals and I didn't have any control over them.

I think the act of visualizing something in great detail excersizes and activates your third eye. Sex is a good candiate for that because it's a very engrossing activity.

[Zarklon]

Wanna hear a "strange-but-true" tale from my own experiences with sexual visualization?-- Well, read on [}:)]

If you arent interested in my sexual experience leading to paralysis..simply skip over my post, I dont think it's that graphic though.

I was visualizing myself walking somewhere one night and the visual was starting to get pretty vivid so I got curious and began to mentally masturbate and just a moment later , I began to feel it physically and my perception changed to my physical body.. the visual went away and I was left with paralysis and turned it into a full blown OBE. I tried it a second time with the same effect .. I think the second time I was actually visualizing sex and started to feel it as if it were really happening and woke up with paralysis.  Both times I was concious of what I was doing in the visual but it has to get really vivid before you can actually feel the sensations.
Its one of the most fun techniques to master if you find it easy to reach a very deep hypnagogic state and are able to tell when you are the sleep/awake threshold.  Try it sometime and it might surprise you.

[Janette_DuCharme]

Yes I often have very vivid visuals of sexual experiences even when not astralling but it seems to lead into that, maybe because that is my intent or perhaps because our energy levels are frantic at the time and focused on one very clear thing the act of sex. But Yes I've exeperienced things when I'll open my eyes but the act is still going on within my mind and im paralysed in my spot and my body has waves of energy pulsating through it. When the visuals become more vivid, so does everything around it and you begin feeling all the sensations in the physical. To me alot of times at first it feels likea slight brush of a hand, and pressure in some places and even rushes of shivers through my whole body its a very enjoyable and successful way of focusing your visual third eye into OBE'ing.

[cube]

Zarklon:
Wow! The honorable Zarklon has made an appearance in one of my threads! I plan to meet you on API one of these days, I can't wait until we're all adept enough to project at will and then schedule meetings.

I wasn't to the point where I could feel anything, it was all in sight. I bet if I start imagining myself feeling it when I will, it proably all boils down to excersizing ability to imagine senses exactly?

I know there's probably no simple answer for this, but how do you tell when you are on the asleep/awake threshold?

Janette:
I want to meet you as well on API!

Your experience sounds very similar to Zarklon's, putting your posts together it looks like a possible route to OBE is:

visualize sex ->
feel it as well ->
open eyes ->
feeling still there + possible waves of energy/vibrations/brushing sensations ->
in paralysis ->
close eyes ->
OBE

[cube]

One other question for the two of you, I hope this is not too personal.

I wonder if your level is stored sexual energy is important here, how long had it been since you'd had a sexual release? For me it had been probably 3 days.

[ralphm]

Just a couple thoughts on the topic- if we could be as one pointed in meditation as in sex we would be enlighted in a second, and I have felt more sexual during periods when I have felt intense spiritual energy.

[Zarklon]

Hey Cube I'm at school again and decided to check this thread here.

"I bet if I start imagining myself feeling it when I will, it proably all boils down to excersizing ability to imagine senses exactly?"

Actually , I was surprised to actually be feeling the sexual visuals physically since I havent done much with with my energy body nor have I Done much third eye developement to improve visualization skills. It really boils down to how long you stay focused on the scene you imagine without letting your mind slip off to something else and drift to sleep. My main problemis just that.. I get carried away with other things if if I try to focus on any single thing.



"I know there's probably no simple answer for this, but how do you tell when you are on the asleep/awake threshold?"

I would have to say that for me.. the asleep/awake threshold makes me go through the following things:

1) I start losing control of focussed thought and begin to start seeing flashes of random images that try to hold long enough into my view so that my mind starts to developea scene for them and pullme into a dream-- (its hard to not slip into a dream for me)

2) I hear random noises. Mostly the noises go hand in hand with something I seem to be visualizing.. last nightI was listening to some brainwave generator stuff and I heard my friend talking to me.. the wierd thing was ...I had JUST started to visualize him randomly and heard his voice seemingly physically in just a second after he flashed in my mind. Same thing happened with a few other people last night.. I started thinking of them and as soon as they spoke , I heard them for a sec.. each time it startles me I snap out of the trance for a bit and become more mentally aware.

3) Your body may start to jerk around a bit.  Like... if you are close to the threshold and you suddenly picture yourself in a baseball game(by will or a random image popping into your mind) if yo uget a ball pitched to you and you swing at it , your arm might jerk quite noticably.. and when  you start running in the visual, your legs might jerk... Reactions such as .. something being thrown at you and you blocking them from hitting you will make your arms move suddenly a lot of times. This lets me know my body is starting to fall asleep and sometimes my mind is hardly noticing imagery at all.

I gotta go , bellis about to ring. I hope you learn a bit from thispost. This stuff has been gathered from my personal experiences and how I interpret them. ITs just what "I" think , I  notice that my experiences are very similar to Jeff_Mash and many of the posters here as well so I think we are all doing something right. Even those of us who are just starting out seem to be doing right because I can relate to some of the "newbies" experiences as well and still go through their blocks every once in  a while. Keep at it and good luck man

[OverDriven]

Do any of you guys have real girlfriends? You might want to look into finding one. []

[cube]

ralphm:
Could you clarify this sentence: 'if we could be as one pointed in meditation as in sex we would be enlighted in a second', I think there's a word missing. I want to comment on that but I'm not sure what you mean.


Zarklon:
Yes, I agree that you and Jeff are definitely doing something right. I'm undecided on the whole Indigo children thing, what do you think? Do you think that has something to do with why a lot of teenagers on this site seem to have a gift for OBEs?

So it's more about the length of time that you're without distraction and are focused rather than the degree to which you focus? I wonder if it would be possible to OBE in a single second at will if you could just focus your mind that powerfully for one moment?

Your description of hypnagogic states is VERY useful to me, I never really knew what to look for and the clinical definition of hypnagogic didn't really help me. For something like learning how to OBE, I've only learned from people's detailed descriptions; the theory hasn't helped me much so far. Thanks!


OverDriven:
Sometimes I like to take a little breather from making it with hordes of supermodels on my 3000 foot yatch in Maui. I'm sure you can relate?

[OverDriven]

LMAO! Yes they can almost be like a job, eh? And too much work is never a good thing. []

[cube]

Something I noticed this morning about the 3D blackness is that it only worked if I was looking in a certain apot, basically in the spot where the eyes are drawn on the image above.

If I looked somewhere else the 3D effect vanished, but if I looked in that place it came back immediately.

[Zarklon]

First off , sorry for replying to such an old message. In case you didnt know , I was without my computer for 2 weeks and I just got it back to see 134 new messages in my inbox... apparently someone wants me to enlarge my "package" and has subscribed me to about 50 newsletters about Viagra.. *rolls eyes*..

Cube-"So it's more about the length of time that you're without distraction and are focused rather than the degree to which you focus? I wonder if it would be possible to OBE in a single second at will if you could just focus your mind that powerfully for one moment?"

I'm unsure as to exactly what degree of focus I have for the visual I create but what I think is more important is shrugging off the imagery that tries to pull me into a dream or if you are doing my strangely named "Dungivachit" method.. just lay there comfortably and wait for those random strange thoughts and simply acknowledge them and comment on them , then wave bye bye and wait for the next until.. well.. until you get either vibes, blank minded , or paralysis. Focusing on the imagery that distracts you from your visualization whether it be a thought about "Hmm I'm gonna have to pee in an hour" or all of a sudden you see "A huge chinese fortune cookie bathing in a small tub of whipped cream in a mexican bar"... whatever your mind might think about while you are trying to stay focused on one thing is a sign of imagery trying to pull you to sleep.  Some are lucky and skillfull enough to push them away very easily and remained focused enough to astrally zap into THEIR visualization to OBE... when others like me try to do this , I cant help but get bombarded with crazy thoughts and they make me dream the wierdest things.

Example: My last dream was about me in school walking in a tiny hallway and some guy body slammed another guy into the ground. The guy got up , and nearly shattered the other guy's face with a punch and everyone around them broke it up.. Me , being a witness to it all , was being questioned by the cops that so happened to see the fight from down the hall. They beckoned me over to question me and as soon as I got  5 feet away from them , my clothes magically disappeared!.... Wierd being naked in your own school.. everyone staring but noone cared much.  I had to B-line it to the sewing class to get clothes and I ended up in a small plad colored dress. Red/orange lines/squares.   -- That technique (Dungivachit) leads me to have the strangest dreams and usually I dont remember my dreams so vividly but when using that technique , I can remember them a lot better..  Also.. may dreams have been showing up in everyday life a bit its like I'm getting a sneak preview of whats gonna happen the next day but in a very vague way.  Probably not from the technique though..  When I have vivid dreams they usually last for 4 or 5 days straight then I dont remember my dreams for a while and it picks up again in a long streak.  Woo rambling again.. I'm bored tonight. Peace out dude

[cube]

Zarklon,
I've been trying your dungivachit technique and just being passive to everything. I've been having better dream recall as well, and my recent experiences have made me suspect that we can in fact have OBEs at will but it takes more rigorous training than what we've been doing. I posted about it here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10203

[Janette_DuCharme]

Sorry to have not posted in a while I was meaning to take a look back on this thread as I find it very interesting.I agree with the majority of you that when we are experiencing sexual thoughts or imagery it stimulates more than just one sense, it arouses all of them including our spiritual ones. Think of it this way sex or rather reprofuction is a primal act and along with that comes primal instincts and stimulants that are otherwise unknown to us, they say that sex isn't just physical but spiritual a combination of two individuals, souls and energies they become intune with one another and mesh into one large rush of energy, who knows what is possible when something like that occurs. In my case sexual scenarios always I find are most useful when meditation or projecting.


Janette
"When you only have eyes for the Knight"..

[cube]

Hi Janette!

There was an interesting reply in the Channeling God thread about sex:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9620&whichpage=7

quote:
there are some questions from Cube and one about masturbating!

lets take the sex question first

ok lets

I am the creator of all things, I made the human body to have all those nerves that feel so good, Sex is my best creation no matter if it is enjoyed alone or with someone .....but. There exists also deeper dimensions of Sex and I urge you all to find these. This is why there is a difference between lust and love. Often masturbating is just releasing a pressure, at other times it is a doorway and brings with it many sorrows. Masturbation is often accompanied by fantasy and here lies the danger. The act itself is pure, sex is my creation, but it is possible to still be drawn into a lustfull frame of mind if this pure activity is allowed to become polluted by negs and turns to perversion. Mental pictures hurtfull perversion are not of me, and fantasy blurr the lines between good and bad. Fantasies often take over and in time pollute the mind and have to be acted on. The antidote is selfcontrol in the mental imagining, it is in seeking love, and in moderation.

The next question is What is bad about lust? This is answered as well then?

Yes but...there is another aspect of lust that needs to be adressed. The lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. My plan is sharing and giving but it saddens me to see so many turn to selfishness to fill the void in their heart. This lusting after material wealth , luxury and the world, is even more destructive and seductive and perverted that sexual lust. It hardens man to the needs of others and through the love of money and what money can buy , many are pierced with multiple sorrows and grow daily more distant from me and their loved ones

I am starting to suspect that anything that can pull your attention completely out of the physical can send you into the astral. So I definitely agree that there's far more to sex than just reproduction, they say that during an embrace your chakras can blend with the other person's, so there is really a lot more sharing going on than just bodily fluids, so to speak. []
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Edit: I didn't mean to put all those smilies there but I think they're kind of funny so I'm leaving them.

[cube]

This morning I was laying in bed running through an imagined sexual encounter in my mind with my eyes closed. To make a long story short I think I wound up viewing a road crossing in San Fransisco, I'm in the midwest.

When I first woke up I put on the headphones and listened to the binaural abyss mp3 for a while. I didn't project so I took them off and went back to bed.

I lay there visualizing and noticed that I was getting pretty strong visuals that actually looked like something instead of random gobs of color moving around in the blackness.

For instance, several times I saw my outlook express screen; it was way too fuzzy and dark to actually read anything but I could see the white and grey parts of it to tell what it was.

The most interesting thing was that I saw a roadcrossing in San Fran that I travelled many times. It was in movie format and I could see cars driving past on it. The reason I think I was remote viewing was that in the scene it was wet and shiny on the ground like water from rain, and I never went to that area when it rained in the physical.

I checked the weather today and it's 90% humidity with a forecast for rain so I might have been looking at things a few hours into the future.

Another interesting thing is that I was aware enough to actually watch my astral eyes open. Do you know what it's like when you first wake up because the sun is shining in your eyes and you open your eyelids by about a millimeter and they sort of hover and waver there with the light coming in blurry?

That's exactly what it was like but my physical eyes were shut and I was fully conscious. It was like my dim astral sight was superimposed over my physical sight, as if my astral eyes are inside my physical eyes.

So anyway, I guess it goes to show that any visualization you do will excersize your astral eyes, and if you like to visualize sex then that's a good way to get two things done at once!

This shows what the images look like for me:



This shows what it looked like to begin opening my astral eyes: