The "Patriot" Acts - Ordering a Pizza - Soon

[kakkarot]

ya know, i'd sing the national anthem of canada right now if i remembered it ^_^; .

canada rules. [] sorry to our american friends down north :/
(hehe, yes i do know usa is south of us, it's just that messing with the americans' heads is canada's second national pasttime [])

~kakkarot

[Gandalf]

hehe and ours!

btw I'm Scottish so I like screwing with the heads of our English friends 'down south' as well. If it was up to me Scotland would be independent from england again, but hey, that my opinon. Anyhow, we've got our own parliament back again so thats something.. we're 'semi-independent' or devolved... or is that de-evolved?

Anyway, whats with this Patriot act thang?

Lets hope it doesnt refer to Mel Gibson's 'The Patriot', the biggest pile of horsesh*t I've ever been forced to endure and also a historical joke.... eg He's a plantation owner but he doesnt own any slaves...yeah right!

seriously, i take it the Patriot acts are measures brought in after 11th september to 'protect' you all, but ends up eroding civil rights?

Thats what's happening all over actually. Its the same here in the UK. The law was changed last year so that the police now have the ability to arrest and detain individuals for an unspecified time, without formal charge. This comes under the new 'anti-terrorism' law.

What people don't realise is that such laws can and do get abused by those in power. It is a historical fact that it is very easy to bring in a new law but very difficult to remove it again. Such laws may be used and abused by those in power in the future, long after the actual time to which the laws were applicable to. It really is storing up trouble for the future.

Regards,
Douglas

[kiauma]

I didn't know the CIA was in the pizza business - but I wouldn't put it past them!  []

[beavis]

I see nothing funny about the craphole that USA is turning into.

Soon, it will be terrorism, punishable by immediate death, to pull the prank of ordering pizzas for somebody who didnt want them.

[Nay]

OH..beavis, relax it was a joke..well...sorta..hehehehe.

I thought it was funny and was in need of a good laugh!  Thanks Fist0fFury []

Nay []

[beavis]

Its not a joke. Its similar to what will really happen. And its going to suck!

"This is NOT speculation, nor humor, but plausible reality to come."

[kiauma]

Whoa!  Beavis, take it easy dude!

I can tell you exactly how the future is gonna be with %100 certainty.

It's gonna be different.

It may be 'better' by todays standards, but most likely it's gonna be 'worse', in mainstream America, meaning we won't have the same relative freedoms and opportunites that you think we enjoy now.

But you will have the rest of the world, and one day there will be space to explore.  Just as it is a certainty that some men will work to maximise their freedoms at the expense of others, so it is also a certainty that the variety of the human experience is a difficult beast to cage - as long as there are people who are willing to move on, and fight for their natural born rights.

I got news for you, compared to life in the 1950's, life here already sucks!  Look at the comparative price of education, of owning a home, of the cost of retirement, not to mention the dissolution of family as it had traditionally been for tens of millenia which always made a place for the older generation...  In a thousand ways modern life simply SUCKS compared to the old ways - and we get to enjoy that suckedness for years longer now because of the advances in medicine!  []  Way to go!  And they even throw in a gameboy and a walkman in the deal - Hot damn.

DO you realize that prior to the turn of the century there was practically no income tax in this country?  Do you realize that prior to the 1930's there were practically no highways in this country?  Before, one could enjoy one's wealth in pastoral beauty, untroubled by pollution, noise, or urban sprawl.   And before the telephone you could actually get a doctor to come to your house, on the reasoning that if it was worth all the trouble to saddle up a horse and ride 20 miles, it must be serious - something that could hardly be guarenteed by a phone call.

Beavis, life has been changing for quite a spell.  I find your statement that it's going to suck rather naive in it's assumption that what we have now you take to be the norm and okay, (simply because you are used to it) and along with the certain future loss of life as you know it will be the end of liberty for all mankind.

[beavis]

kiauma: I can tell you exactly how the future is gonna be with %100 certainty.

Forgive me if I dont bow down to your all-knowingness.

I got news for you, compared to life in the 1950's, life here already sucks! Look at the comparative price of education, of owning a home, of the cost of retirement,

Yes those things suck.

DO you realize that prior to the turn of the century there was practically no income tax in this country?

Yes. I would have liked usa around that time, except for the lack of technology, which is why I am here now instead.

Beavis, life has been changing for quite a spell. I find your statement that it's going to suck rather naive in it's assumption that what we have now you take to be the norm and okay, (simply because you are used to it)

I dont think its ok!! USA sucks!!

will be the end of liberty for all mankind.

Thats what I'm worried about, that the loss of freedom will continue.

[kiauma]

LOL!  Well Beavis, you got me.

Sorry I can't dent your doom and gloom.

[Nay]

I cranked up the radio and danced around my kitchen this morning, to the delight of my 3yr...Help put a smile on both our faces! []

So Beavis crank up that radio.. or hey, have your Mom dance around the kitchen..LOL..(sorry that probably wasn't a visual you needed [])

Nay []

[Anonymous]

ha ha, I've seen that before. Good stuff.

[kakkarot]

realistically though, and it is kinda scary, the usa COULD try to pull that kind of bs. anyone ever hear of the "Homeland Security Agency" that was implemented within the past two years? in the usa?

~kakkarot

[kiauma]

Yes I've heard of it, and yes it sucks.  However, we survived McCarthyism, Nixon, Johnson, and and a few other constitutional tragedies - I hope we can weather the current crime!

[James S]

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

ha ha, I've seen that before. Good stuff.

What, Beavis' Mom dancing around the kitchen??

Enderwiggen, is there something you're not telling us?
NO, WAIT...I'm...er...not really sure I want to know.

[]
James.

[kiauma]

What can I say?  

[FistOfFury]

I ran accross a very humourus parody of ordering a pizza under the Patriot Act. I'm not taking credit for this, I'm just sharing it in hopes someone will get a good laugh out of reading it. Enjoy!

The 'Patriot' Acts.
 
Is this what you REALLY want
 
This is NOT speculation, nor humor, but plausible reality to come.
 
 
Operator: Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your...
 
Customer: Hi, I'd like to order.
 
Operator: May I have your NIDN first, sir?
 
Customer: My National, ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's 6102049998-45-54610.
 
Operator: Thank you, Mr. Sheehan. I see you live at 1742 Meadowland Drive, and the phone number's 494-2366. Your office number over at Lincoln Insurance is 745-2302, and your cell number's 266-2566. Which number are you calling from, sir?
 
Customer: Huh? I'm at home. Where d'ya get all this information?
 
Operator: We're wired into the system, sir.
 
Customer: (Sighs) Oh, well, I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas...
 
Operator: I don't think that's a good idea, sir.
 
Customer: Whaddya mean?
 
Operator: Sir, your medical records indicate that you've got very high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice.
 
Customer: What do you recommend, then?
 
Operator: You might try our low-fat Soybean Yogurt Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it.
 
Customer: What makes you think I'd like something like that?
 
Operator: Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion.
 
Customer: All right, all right. Give me two family sized ones, then. What's the damage?
 
Operator: That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four kids, sir. The 'damage,' as you put it, heh, heh, comes to $49.99.
 
Customer: Lemme give you my credit card number.
 
Operator: I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash. Your credit card balance is over it's limit.
 
Customer: I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your driver gets here.
 
Operator: That won't work either, sir. Your checking account's overdrawn.
 
Customer: Never mind. Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready. How long will it take?
 
Operator: We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes, sir. If you're in a hurry, you might want to pick 'em up while you're out getting the cash, but carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward.
 
Customer: How the heck do you know I'm riding a bike?
 
Operator: It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid up, so I just assumed that you'd be using it.
 
Customer: @#%/$@&?#!
 
Operator: I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already got a July 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop.
 
Customer: (Speechless)
 
Operator: Will there be anything else, sir?
 
Customer: No, nothing. oh, yeah, don't forget the two free liters of Coke your ad says I get with the pizzas.
 
Operator: I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents us from offering free soda to diabetics.