Pyramids and hieroglyphs

[no_leaf_clover]

There is one example I know of where the Egyptians make reference to a pyramid and the Sphinx. This is from a limestone stela as explained in The Stairway to Heaven.


Live Horus Mezdau; (To) King (of) Upper & Lower Egypt, Khufu, is given Life!

He founded the House of Isis, Mistress of the Pyramid, beside the House of the Spinx


Now the whole reason that stela's message is in a Sitchin book may give you a hint as to why the Egyptian's didn't say much about these great structures that they supposedly made. In fact, according to that text, which was in a museum in Cairo when this book was written, Khufu founded the House of Isis, Mistress of an already-created Pyramid, beside the already-created Sphinx. Check your purported Egyptian history and you will find the significance of that statement.

The limestone text, dated just as old and authentic as any other Egyptian text from its era, has been dismissed by people of 'education' as a forgery simply because of its significant message, which is, as Sitchin puts it, 'damning evidence'.

There were no hieroglyphics in any of the Great Pyramids, except some obviously forged ones from when the insides of it were first penetrated. For more information on the forgings made inside the Great Pyramids and how they were originally untouched by any hieroglyphics (indeed because Egyptian hieroglyphics would be foreign to those who actually built the Pyramids []), I posted a good deal about it in the book review section, at the end of my post summarizing the book The Stairway to Heaven.

Hope that helps your problem some.

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
No Leaf is correct in pointing out the forgeries within the Great Pyramid.  Now I would like to direct your attention to the only real carvings of any kind that are found inside that structure.
This pic appears in another post further down the page.

This is a rough free hand drawing of the Hieroglyphs that appear in the book called "The Great Pyramid;Your Personal Guide". I think the authors name was Peter LeMesurier.  This carving appears inside a small niche carved under the original entrance gable.  And as you can well guess, it is not Egyptian in style and it is not part of accepted history.

Strangely, about the time I found this little Gem I came across an article in the locally published magazine called Nexus, which I believe is available in the States.  This picture is alledged to be an original photo of one of the small I-beams from the Roswell incident...
This pic appears in another post further down the page.

You will have to forgive me for the poor reproduction of this picture.  It shows that some of the shapes/letters/hieroglyphs are the same as the ones found inside the Pyramid.  Now doesn't that make your mind wobble just a bit?

I thought you might like to see these, as I am sure within myself that there is a definite connection here.  A few years ago I approached Lawrence Gardner with this, as a way to possibly open up another serious research direction.  I do not know if he has taken yo the challenge.

Love Always.[]

****OOPS, Looks like I screwed up when uploading the images, well, it is my first time, LOL.  Maybe someone could help me with that please??

[Lighthouse]

I watched a documentary long ago which detailed that many of the structures in Egypt were constructed in a pre-Egytitan era.  The Egyptologist presenting the documentary then described that the erosion of the Sphinx was actually due to water, not sand and wind.  Which meant that the entire desert was submerged for sevral thousands of years between the civilizations who originally built the structures and the Egyptian era.  He went on to describe that the head was rebuilt on top of the sphinx and dated tens of thousands of years after the base of the structure... that the original head of the monument was completely eroded away which would explain why it is disproportionate with the base of the Sphinx, it should have the same proportions of a lion... when looking at the structure, you will see that the head is mush smaller in proportion to the rest of the body (and is obviously the head of a pharoh, not a lion.)  Additionally, the pyramids were also talked about and that the top was at one point made of metal or some other element other than the stone used to build the rest of the temples.  That's all I remember, I saw the documentary many years ago.

Anyway, this might explain why the only petroglyphs found were forged.

--Kerri

[Hephaestus]

Tayesin, your pics arnt showing up.

[twstedrage]

Also from what I was watching on tv the great pyramid was suppose to align with I forget what stars. However due to the earth being misaligned and they figured it to be in alignment way before the pyramid was suppose to have been built. And it is that way with alot of the pyramids. So who knows who built them. Either the pyramids are alot older or maybe they just messed up on where the pyramid was put and we got it all wrong.

[Tayesin]

quote:Originally posted by Hephaestus

Tayesin, your pics arnt showing up.

I saw that, LOL.  How do I get them in their?  Any ideas Anybody??

Tay[xx(]

[atalanta]

I did see some documentary style show last year by some scientist making the claim that there was some cataclysmic event some 10,500 BC and that there was water in Egypt, etc.  I think he was trying to make some point of aliens landing on earth, etc.  The usual.  

I saw a documentary this year countering his claims by other scientists.  These scientists say that in each astronomical chart he put forward to suggest that the various important sites around the world were aligned to demonstrate that something major occurred in 10,500 BC, were wrong.  One in fact was very telling.  It was the site of a set of small temples, think it was in Malaysia, Burma some place like that.  Out of some 60 possible sites, he had chosen a select few that followed, he claimed a similar shape in the stars and it then corresponded to 10,500 BC.  When confronted with this, he was obviously embarrassed and looking guilty.  All he had to say for himself was that his theory showed differently.  He didn't defend his theory or his thoughts.

He was seeing what he wanted to see and without serious research, either because he wanted to make a name for himself or he was deluded.  Or maybe both.

Moral of the story, always check with those who have opposing views before making up your mind.

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
Here are those pics I mentioned.....
Top :- The four symbols/hieroglyphs found under the entrance gable.



Bottom :- The alledged original photo courtesy of 'Nexus Magazine', showing an I-beam from the Roswell 'crash'.






Glad I sorted that out, LOL.

Water was the obvious cause of the weathering patterns found on the Sphinx and noted by Professor West, who at the time was the foremost erosion expert on our planet.  It seems that the desert was tropical rainforest around 10,500 to 13,000 bc, which easily accounts for the weathering patterns.

It is well known now that regularly changing weather patterns caused the hot moist forest of the Giza area to quickly turn into Savanna, then mostly desert before drying out completely into the form we see today.  It is seriously theorized that the whole process only took a few thousand years, and is very much in line with current thinking about the quick end to the last Ice Age.

It has been thought also that the reason for the Sphinx's head being out of proportion to the body was that most of it lay covered in sand until the Egyptian civilisation was advanced enough to carve the likeness of a King or later Pharoah.  

The records from Egypt tell how a few times in that cultures long historic periods, Rulers would uncover the Sphinx and pyramid bases, sometimes resealing the body of the Sphinx with a fresh layer of fitted rock and in later times they used bricks to make repairs to it.

Isn't it unusual though when we consider that since the buiding of the three main pyramids at Giza, Egyptian technology itself was unable to repeat the feat in other pyramid structures.  Almost as if they record the inability of a culture to replicate monuments that they had consumed into their own psyche as they rose to prominence.

Well, that's my spiel.

Love Always.[]

[no_leaf_clover]

Lighthouse -

I would be careful about the dates scientists give on the Great Pyramids. They can be horribly off. Radiation can cause things to seem to age more quickly, and this is believed to be the case when it comes to the Pyramids (even though they are already so old they are hard to date even without the radiation), because in at least one of the Great Pyramids, the top half was actually dated older than its base. Some sort of radiation emitted at the top of the Pyramid?

quote: Also from what I was watching on tv the great pyramid was suppose to align with I forget what stars.

That would be Orion's Belt. They are still aligned pretty accurately to this day, to fractions of degrees if I remember correctly. The Pyramids align perfectly around 10,000 BC.

[volcomstone]

quote:Some sort of radiation emitted at the top of the Pyramid?

Proof of the effects of sacred geometry? makes sense.

what about the pyramids on mars? are they just natural formations? it can't just be a coincidence there is something much much much more to this than even Sitchin is telling us (even though some of sitchins interpretations are probally WAY off base)

[twstedrage]

Well I look at it this way for how old and big the universe is and with elements like water that brings life on our planet, are on other planets and in space, I find it hard to believe there isn't other life out there and it wouldnt be a waste of space if there wasn't.

[Tayesin]

quote:Originally posted by volcomstone
what about the pyramids on mars? are they just natural formations?

It would seem almost impossible for the five sided pyramid on Mars to be a natural formation.  And when you add to that the many other unusual formations that have been found there (which I am sure No Leaf can describe far better than I) the possibility of any of it being natural formations would seem absurd.

As to Inguma's original question, I do not think that there would be many Hieroglyphs describing the Great pyramid. With the possible exception of the texts that supposedly links Kufu to the great pyramid...although this too may well be a case of that Pharoah sequestering the Pyramid for his own edification.

Also, the Sumerian Tablets tell us that the Anunnaki built the Pyramid as a marker for the incoming ships to use when on final approach, after the flooding of the area wiped away their previous buildings.  If we take into account that these Tablets were written well before 2,500 BC, then the supposed history stating these Pyramids were built around that date would be entirely ridiculous.

Any feedback on the pics I finally managed to provide?

Love Always.[]

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

quote: Also from what I was watching on tv the great pyramid was suppose to align with I forget what stars.

That would be Orion's Belt. They are still aligned pretty accurately to this day, to fractions of degrees if I remember correctly. The Pyramids align perfectly around 10,000 BC.

Hancock mirrored the images so that they did match to some degree, when challenged he admitted this and claimed it was OK to do so.
The alignments circa 10000 years ago does not pan out even if using the same star chart software that Hancock used, it happens more recently. When challenged he said it was the thought that counted or words to that effect

[no_leaf_clover]

Some interesting links you guys might enjoy clicking:

Regarding the Giza Pyramids:
http://www.mars-earth.com/earthpage.htm
Mathematical Aspects: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Bunker/6755/weirdpyrmid.html

Regarding the Cydonia Pyramids and other Martian features:
http://xfacts.com/mars_sub.htm
Astral Pulse topic: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5566

Other odd things and things that don't fit the official description of our past:
http://mars-earth.com/11face.htm

[Rob]

Hey!!

Thanks for all the great replies.

As I thought, there's pretty much no references to the great pyramid in hieroglyphic form. But thanks no leaf for pointing the stela limestone thing, so (lol) it seems that the only actual reference indicates a much earlier date (rofl). Silly silly historians....

The biggest blow was done years ago though, by the fools that removed the limestone casings on the pyramids. I cant remember where I heard it but they were supposed to be covered in hieroglyphics....sigh....

Yeah radiation dating inside the great pyramid seems a bit...dodgy, to say the least. What I would really like to do is take a tiny radioactive sample and measure its decay rate as I go through the pyramid, see if there are any changes (I'd be genuinly suprised if it stayed constant!). Hmm, I remember someone else doing similar.....aha yeah here quoting from http://www.keelynet.com/davidson/npap1.htm

quote:The chart recorder records the state of a bubble of energy which surrounded the pyramid. The energy bubble over time had various levels of opacity to all types of radiation.

Experiments putting radio frequency emitters, radioactive sources - specifically beta emitters, magnetic sources, and ion sources all showed attenuation when in the energy bubble which surrounds the pyramid.

Intensive research over 13 years showed that the bubble could be fed negative ions and this would intensify the opacity of the bubble. At certain times of the year the energy bubble would totally block the force of gravity, nuclear radiation, and electromagnetic radiation. Another effect noted that the pyramid seemed to be resonant at 500 and 1000 Hz.

Experiments dont by Joe Parr. Very impressive ones at that. So! The radiation was reduced (attenuated), which indicates that the decay rate had slowed down, so any carbon dating done on the pyramids would give a much later date than the actual one. Or perhaps it was just blocking the readings...hmm that should be measureable. Whatever, this essentially rules out the ability to use radio-carbon dating non?

I have often wondered in Stonehenge would produce a similar effect. One day I'm gonna organise a bunch of people together and test than, I mean I only live an hour or so away...

Random weird facts - the queens chamber has salt deposits built up in it, and nobody is quite sure where they are coming from....then there are stories of standing waves of light being produces using certain tones in the pyramid etc. And when first broken into the "sarcophagus" had a white powder in the bottom of it, and other people have been successfully used the pyramid shape to produce ORMUS where the kings chamber would be...

"Proof of the effects of sacred geometry? makes sense."

Yeah, it definitely does. Check this out.....
http://www.abo.ru/english.html

And if you like that.....(check out this next piccy if nothing else...)

http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/hardy1.htm

Pretty crazy stuff! And I love it...SOO interesting []

Rob

ps Tayesin - thanks for the pics! Although I am not entirely sure what to make of them!!!!!!

[no_leaf_clover]

quote:And when first broken into the "sarcophagus" had a white powder in the bottom of it, and other people have been successfully used the pyramid shape to produce ORMUS where the kings chamber would be...

I heard it was black powder, but I guess the color doesn't much matter. Also, it has been noted before how that even when people are on totally opposite ends of a Great Pyramid, they can still communicate pretty easily because the Pyramids seem to act something like a megaphone (I remember a sarcophagus was once actually compared to a pitch fork by an early archaeologist, because when struck, it rang a low, steady tone!). The Pyramids, when viewed from the air, can also tell you the time of day and in which direction you are moving (or looking at them from) easily because of their shadows and distinct relation to each other.

Also, there is a relation between Giza and other ancient sites...



Here I shall put a section from Sitchin's Stairway to Heaven that can be located on pages 295/296. Comments I have added to explain what he's talking about in a little more depth are in green.


"But as suggestive as all these terms and legends are, (Sitchin has just finished a section that relates ancient terms and legends to a 'divine grid' that is displayed on page 295.) the decisive question is this: did Jerusalem in fact lie on the central line which bisected the Landing Corridor (used by the Annunaki), focused on Ararat and outlined by the Giza Pyramids and Mount Umm Shumar?

"The decisive answer is: Yes. Jerusalem lies precisely on that line!

"As was the case with the pyramids of Giza, so do we uncover in the case of the Divine Grid more and more amazing alignments and triangulations.

"Jerusalem, we find, also lies precisely where the Baalbek-Katherine (Baalbek, in the Cedar Mountains, was known to the Sumerians as the location of a spaceport) line intersects the flight path's central line based on Ararat.

"Heliopolis (Egpytian city located right by Giza), we find, is precisely equidistant from Jerusalem as Mount Umm Shumar.

"And the diagonals drawn from Jerusalem to Heliopolis and to Umm Shumar form an accurate 45º right angle (Fig. 160)!

"These links between Jerusalem, Baalbek (The crest of Zaphon) and Giza (Memphis) were known, and hailed, in biblical times:

"

quote:Great Yahweh and greatly hallowed
in the city of our Lord,
His Holy Mountain.
At Memphis He is beautified.
The joy of the whole Earth,
of Mount Zion,
of the Crest of Zaphon

"Jerusalem, the Book of Jubilees held, was in fact one of four "Places of the Lord" on Earth (or maybe in other words, 'the Places of the Annunaki' on Earth): "the Garden of Eternity" in the Cedar Mountains; "the Mountain of the East" which was Mount Ararat; Mount Sinai and Mount Zion. Three of them were in the "lands of the Shem," the son of Noah from whom the biblical Patriarchs were descended; and they were interconnected:

"

quote:The Garden of Eternity, the most sacred,
is the dwelling of the Lord;
And Mount Sinai, in the center of the desert;
And Mount Zion, the center of the Navel of the Earth.
These were created as holy places,
FACING EACH OTHER.

"Somewhere along the "Line of Jerusalem," the central flight line that was anchored on Mount Ararat, the Spaceport itself had to be location. There, too, the final beacon had to be located: "Mount Siani, in the center of the desert."


Sitchin then goes into a very interesting section on the 13th Parallel, and how the Sphinx, Indus River Valley Civilization, and other ancient features, all suggested that whoever made such structures as the Sphinx and Pyramids also knew of structures in Sumeria, Jerusalem, and the Indus Valley, which remains much of a mystery to this day!

I tried to find pics of the figures in Sitchin's book so the excerpt could be better understood, but I couldn't. If you ever see the book, flip to the last pages of it and you'll see the figures that display the 'divine grids'. It's pretty interesting.

[Rob]

:Ahoy there,

I mailed an author I heard interviewed, umm maybe unknown country - his name is Will hart anyway. I asked him about the casing stones and what I'd heard of their once being covered in hieroglyphs and this was his reply, tis interesting so I'm gonna share it, sure he wont mind!! []

Hi Rob:

quote:It was covered with an outer casing of precisely cut, high grade, Tura limestone, which gave it a smooth, polished cladding. Several examples of the casing still exist on the northern and southern corners. Interestingly, the former are in fairly good shape and it is easy to picture what the finished pyramid really looked like. However, the stones on the southern corner are badly eroded and this is problematic. I had a two-part series published in Atlantis Rising, which examines the mystery of the missing casing stones. Too much to go into here. As for the alleged markings that were supposed to have been inscribed on the outer casing, there is only one historical witness that mentioned these so it is difficult to conclude anything about that. Thanks.

yours,
Will

I stand corrected [:I]

Rob

[TheLunatic]

It's interesting how the pyramids are devoid of hieroglyphics where-as other Egyptian temples are completely covered in them. Also aren't tombs in the Valley of the Kings covered in hieroglyphic's?

Something to think about,
Luke

[Rob]

Hey guys,

Got a quick question for anyone out there who might know.

Are there any references to the pyramids in hieroglyphic form eg in temples etc? I cant find anything, but you'd expect something if the ancient Egyptians we are familiar with built them. Kinda relevant but a point I've never heard brought up before! I wonder why!!! []

Rob