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Hyperblu


yes of course you can use your energy as a "weapon"
the thing behind  all this (as i see this) is that you need to start controlling yours and others energy.
with your energy you can move things from one place to another and so on.

for an ex. you're in the town with your friends on the evening and are having fun. someone who comes to you and you see on that  human that he/she want to start to fight with you so you control his energy and take it away so he cant fight with you.. instead you feel yourself filled with energy. (PS. Im not sure if this is possible but i've been reading about this that  all this IS possible).

so i mean... start with controlling your own energy. with that.. you will learn with time how to  control others.

hope you ppl dont see anything bad in this  msg.
all that was just an ex.

hope you understand what i mean. and  good luck :)

/Kai
Everything is simple if you can

kakkarot

yes there is some truth to the claims of Qi Gong Masters... well, to some of the claims anyway. of course there are frauds and charlatans as well, and it seems like they get FAR more publicity then the real masters ever will :( . oh well ^_^ such is life, the truth is hidden by a society of people who don't want to believe it anyway (i'm referring to the general society of what most "first world nations" seem to be, btw. there are many societies which openly accept psychicism and paranormal things without feeling a need to disprove anything they don't understand [:)]).

~kakkarot

findtruth

I use energy as a weapon against negs.[;)]That somewhat similar to what you're talking about.

Mistic-Idan

I use just Ki balls as weapon. It's the fastest way! After all you can't make a Genki-Dahma for a battle! It can take you half an hour so don't think you can fight with really big amounts of energy.
I would say the saster you create a good ball, the better it goes in a battle.
But don't think just about fighting with energy. It has its own interest and meaning.
DiAbOLiX

Fat_Turkey

Yeah well I'm running a training/experiment right now. I will start by just trying to use TK in any way and form I can think of without embarrassing myself.

I'll start with simple pinwheel movements, the online "TK tests" if I can find them again (harddrive was wiped recently, had them saved to my favourites). Then I'll move on to rolling pencils and cans, shifting pieces of paper, swinging already open doors, and "grabbing" the drops of water in the shower (if I get that far). My inspiration for this came from when I saw an advertisement on an anime DVD for a Korean/Japanese movie called Volcano High.

It has a guy who is, of course, psychic, and he holds his hand in the shower and pushes the water upwards so it hovers in midair above his hand. Very cool.

If I can get that far that is.

Wish me luck!

~FT

PS. - nothing to do with DBZ. I'm just interested in finding my potential and I'm getting very frustrated with Astral Projection.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
-Anonymous

No amount of rigorous training, sitting and doing nothing, and clearing one's mind can help a man who hasn't overcome his doubts.

Hyperblu


Fat_Turkey sounds very cool [;)]
im into tk too but i have no results yet... at least i think.
ive been "moving" tinfoil but im not sure if that really was me... maybe i could make the air to move by itself as one guy thought.
anyways good luck :)
Everything is simple if you can

waterflow

where can i find a good source of information on these Qi Jong masters Kakkarot? (thanks for your post)

kakkarot

wouldn't know, i've only found rare tidbits of information and i never kept them. but it's always a good thing, after hearing of someone's supposed exploits, to do a search on the person and see what other people say of them.

for instance, a month or so ago someone posted a link (in a chat room i go to) to a site where someone was making some claims about a new martial art they had created and the "master" was hyping it up on the page. the person who posted the link already knew the guy was a fraud after having done his own search on him, but just to double check i did a search too and the only places that had positive info on the martial artist (on the guy himself, let alone the style he was creating) were the guys' own site and a couple of his students' sites.

sorry that i can't be of any actual help ^_^; but good luck with any searches you might try [:)]

~kakkarot

kenshinhan604

quote:
Originally posted by kakkarot

wouldn't know, i've only found rare tidbits of information and i never kept them. but it's always a good thing, after hearing of someone's supposed exploits, to do a search on the person and see what other people say of them.

for instance, a month or so ago someone posted a link (in a chat room i go to) to a site where someone was making some claims about a new martial art they had created and the "master" was hyping it up on the page. the person who posted the link already knew the guy was a fraud after having done his own search on him, but just to double check i did a search too and the only places that had positive info on the martial artist (on the guy himself, let alone the style he was creating) were the guys' own site and a couple of his students' sites.

sorry that i can't be of any actual help ^_^; but good luck with any searches you might try [:)]

~kakkarot







so these qui jong masters are like jedis ... i did say like!!

kakkarot

no, not like jedis.

~kakkarot

kenshinhan604

kwik question then how do u use it fir energy then  ny1?


sain

is it easier to use energy in a beam or a ball? which is harder?

findtruth

I learned to use it in a beam first, but that doesn't mean it's easier.  Experiment, it's whatevr works for you.

KenYang

I swore up and down that I wouldn't come near this place but, "what the Hell", right?

Anywho, Qi as a weapon.

First and foremost, I don't know everyone's level of knowledge on this stuff so I'm gonna start with the very basics.  Qi (pronounced as "ch-ee" and also commonly spelled as "Chi") is the Chinese word for "energy."  Most people in the West think that Qi is a bunch of nonsense because a bunch of quacks who talk about it over here or due to some mistranslation a lot of people see Qi as some sort of mystical force that trandscends scientific study.  In reality, there are all types of Qi such as Ren Qi (Human Qi) referring to human energies, Tian Qi (Heaven Qi) referring to the weather, Dian Qi (Electric Qi) referring to electricity, Re Qi (Heat Qi) referring to heat, Si Qi (dead Qi) or Guo Qi (ghost Qi) referring to the energy of dead bodies, Huo Qi (vital Qi) referring to the vital energies of [insert living thing here], Zheng Qi (normal Qi) referring to the Qi of a person with good morals, and about 25 other types that I don't know yet.  There are even terms referring to the morale of armies like Qi Shi (energy state).  

My belief is that Qi, when used by itself, is a collective term referring to the types of Qi humans have like Re Qi from body heat and Dian Qi from nervous activity.  This comes from reading the book "Tai Chi Chuan and Meditation" by Da Liu.  Current scientific theory about Qi goes by the understanding that since everything breaks down into atoms and atoms have electricity, that bio-electricity is what Qi is and that the very subtle magnetic fields made by all this bio-electricity is what the aura is.  This comes from reading "The Root of Chinese Qigong" by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming.  You could also go into the variant theory that all mass is really made up on energy and that energy as well.

Anywho...

Qi is mainly used by people over here conciously as a way to stay healthy.  In martial arts, people either conciously or unconciously (depending on what was taught) use Qi when properly executing attacks with proper breathing methods.  I train in the use of Qi with an exercise I developed consisting of things such as Zhan Zhuang (a type of standing meditation) and Wai Dan (another type of standing meditation) as well as getting proper exercise.  I also increase my ability to use Qi by using it conciously when executing martial arts techniques.

From what I've learned from personal experience as well as reading books by people like Da Liu and Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming is that when it comes to "feeling people out" psychically or whatever its called around here, its because someone who has trained with Qi for awhile develops the ability to feel subtle magnetic waves given from bio-electricity and translate them in his mind in order to understand things about a nearby person.

When it comes to fighting, Qi can be built up in the limbs mentally and can be more easily done if the building is in rhythm with certain breath techniques like Daoist Breathing.  When Qi is built up in the limbs things happen like being able to use muscular strength more efficiently or "hardening of the fists" where you can dull out pain from hitting things and "transferring Qi" where you foce Qi into another person's body upon striking them with your limbs in order to not only give them injury, but stagnate Qi flow so its harder for them to recover.  Other uses include a technique known as Fa Jing (Explosive Force) which allows you to knock people very far away with minimal muscle effort and, at higher levels, allows you to rupture organs and make people fall where they stand.

Other uses include healing (Accupuncture, Accupressure, etc.) and making the body more endurant (Iron Body, Iron Palm) among other things that I just can't think of off the top of my head.

The most controversial part of Qi training is the ability known as Kong Jing (Empty Force) or Lin Kong Jing (Powerful Empty Force).  As far as I have read, Kong Jing is a skill that allows you to project Qi at people you can learn after about three years of a strict training schedule involving Zhan Zhuang, Leg Push Ups, and other exercises meant to build up Qi and extend it outside of the body as far as you intend.  Some say that this can be used for self-defense, others say that it can be used to make people become sick or dead at a fixed point in the future after application, and many say that Kong Jing can only really knock back people who also have a lot of Qi built up and, because of that, it (Kong Jing) can't be used for self defense.

http://www.geocities.com/bgaughr/ has a basic Qigong 101 course that is specifically made for novices.

http://www.geocities.com/donjitsu2/warriorhome.html is a site with training exercises like Zhan Zhuang for building up Qi for combat purposes.

http://www.dragonslist.com/articles/articles/?articleid=93 is an article from Dragon's List (a Gongfu/Kung Fu website) by one of the authors I mentioned above about how you can encorperate Sunlight Hand Arts (Candle Training) into your martial arts practice in order to more effectively use Qi in combat.

http://www.bodymindandmodem.com is a site based on Aikido if you're looking for something more on the Japanese side of Ki (pronounced "K-ee" and is the Japanese version of Qi) use.

The Korean version of Aikido is Hapkido and has the same principles as Aikido and even has the same definition and pronounciation (K-ee: "energy" or "spirit" [as in intent, mind-set, and emotions]) if you'd like to see things from a Korean standpoint.

[Edit]Dragonball and Street Fighter are not proper depictions of Qi at work.  They're a form of entertainment based in a world where Qi has properties that don't exist in the real world.  A Qi Ball is not really a "ball".  A Qi Ball is a ball-feeling that you get from eminating Qi from your palms and getting a feeling of opposing forces when you bring your hands close together.  The "power up" is something that doesn't exist in any form besides maybe spreading Qi all over your body at once or releaseing a Kiai (Spirit Gathering, the yell used in Japanese and Korean martial arts to summon Qi) to suddenly jolt your body with Qi.  No muscle tensing is involved and the only hairs that might stand up are the ones on your arms is you have a high enough Qi build-up and you emit it from your palm to your forearm from 2 inches away.[/edit]

kenshinhan604

quote:
Originally posted by findtruth

I learned to use it in a beam first, but that doesn't mean it's easier.  Experiment, it's whatevr works for you.






beam hey?

so how did u do it ?

and how long did it take then?

kenshinhan604

quote:
Originally posted by KenYang

I swore up and down that I wouldn't come near this place but, "what the Hell", right?

Anywho, Qi as a weapon.

First and foremost, I don't know everyone's level of knowledge on this stuff so I'm gonna start with the very basics.  Qi (pronounced as "ch-ee" and also commonly spelled as "Chi") is the Chinese word for "energy."  Most people in the West think that Qi is a bunch of nonsense because a bunch of quacks who talk about it over here or due to some mistranslation a lot of people see Qi as some sort of mystical force that trandscends scientific study.  In reality, there are all types of Qi such as Ren Qi (Human Qi) referring to human energies, Tian Qi (Heaven Qi) referring to the weather, Dian Qi (Electric Qi) referring to electricity, Re Qi (Heat Qi) referring to heat, Si Qi (dead Qi) or Guo Qi (ghost Qi) referring to the energy of dead bodies, Huo Qi (vital Qi) referring to the vital energies of [insert living thing here], Zheng Qi (normal Qi) referring to the Qi of a person with good morals, and about 25 other types that I don't know yet.  There are even terms referring to the morale of armies like Qi Shi (energy state).  

My belief is that Qi, when used by itself, is a collective term referring to the types of Qi humans have like Re Qi from body heat and Dian Qi from nervous activity.  This comes from reading the book "Tai Chi Chuan and Meditation" by Da Liu.  Current scientific theory about Qi goes by the understanding that since everything breaks down into atoms and atoms have electricity, that bio-electricity is what Qi is and that the very subtle magnetic fields made by all this bio-electricity is what the aura is.  This comes from reading "The Root of Chinese Qigong" by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming.  You could also go into the variant theory that all mass is really made up on energy and that energy as well.

Anywho...

Qi is mainly used by people over here conciously as a way to stay healthy.  In martial arts, people either conciously or unconciously (depending on what was taught) use Qi when properly executing attacks with proper breathing methods.  I train in the use of Qi with an exercise I developed consisting of things such as Zhan Zhuang (a type of standing meditation) and Wai Dan (another type of standing meditation) as well as getting proper exercise.  I also increase my ability to use Qi by using it conciously when executing martial arts techniques.

From what I've learned from personal experience as well as reading books by people like Da Liu and Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming is that when it comes to "feeling people out" psychically or whatever its called around here, its because someone who has trained with Qi for awhile develops the ability to feel subtle magnetic waves given from bio-electricity and translate them in his mind in order to understand things about a nearby person.

When it comes to fighting, Qi can be built up in the limbs mentally and can be more easily done if the building is in rhythm with certain breath techniques like Daoist Breathing.  When Qi is built up in the limbs things happen like being able to use muscular strength more efficiently or "hardening of the fists" where you can dull out pain from hitting things and "transferring Qi" where you foce Qi into another person's body upon striking them with your limbs in order to not only give them injury, but stagnate Qi flow so its harder for them to recover.  Other uses include a technique known as Fa Jing (Explosive Force) which allows you to knock people very far away with minimal muscle effort and, at higher levels, allows you to rupture organs and make people fall where they stand.

Other uses include healing (Accupuncture, Accupressure, etc.) and making the body more endurant (Iron Body, Iron Palm) among other things that I just can't think of off the top of my head.

The most controversial part of Qi training is the ability known as Kong Jing (Empty Force) or Lin Kong Jing (Powerful Empty Force).  As far as I have read, Kong Jing is a skill that allows you to project Qi at people you can learn after about three years of a strict training schedule involving Zhan Zhuang, Leg Push Ups, and other exercises meant to build up Qi and extend it outside of the body as far as you intend.  Some say that this can be used for self-defense, others say that it can be used to make people become sick or dead at a fixed point in the future after application, and many say that Kong Jing can only really knock back people who also have a lot of Qi built up and, because of that, it (Kong Jing) can't be used for self defense.

http://www.geocities.com/bgaughr/ has a basic Qigong 101 course that is specifically made for novices.

http://www.geocities.com/donjitsu2/warriorhome.html is a site with training exercises like Zhan Zhuang for building up Qi for combat purposes.

http://www.dragonslist.com/articles/articles/?articleid=93 is an article from Dragon's List (a Gongfu/Kung Fu website) by one of the authors I mentioned above about how you can encorperate Sunlight Hand Arts (Candle Training) into your martial arts practice in order to more effectively use Qi in combat.

http://www.bodymindandmodem.com is a site based on Aikido if you're looking for something more on the Japanese side of Ki (pronounced "K-ee" and is the Japanese version of Qi) use.

The Korean version of Aikido is Hapkido and has the same principles as Aikido and even has the same definition and pronounciation (K-ee: "energy" or "spirit" [as in intent, mind-set, and emotions]) if you'd like to see things from a Korean standpoint.

[Edit]Dragonball and Street Fighter are not proper depictions of Qi at work.  They're a form of entertainment based in a world where Qi has properties that don't exist in the real world.  A Qi Ball is not really a "ball".  A Qi Ball is a ball-feeling that you get from eminating Qi from your palms and getting a feeling of opposing forces when you bring your hands close together.  The "power up" is something that doesn't exist in any form besides maybe spreading Qi all over your body at once or releaseing a Kiai (Spirit Gathering, the yell used in Japanese and Korean martial arts to summon Qi) to suddenly jolt your body with Qi.  No muscle tensing is involved and the only hairs that might stand up are the ones on your arms is you have a high enough Qi build-up and you emit it from your palm to your forearm from 2 inches away.[/edit]











so how do u fire the ki tyhen as an attack

i maen an blast ki attack u know!

KenYang

You don't "fire" it.  The closest thing to "firing" it is the Kong Jing ability and I don't know Kong Jing.

The closest thing you can do to "firing" Qi is doing Butterfly Palm (a Gongfu move that looks similar to a Kamehameha) Tekken style (physical contact).  Once you get the basics, you can trnasfer Qi through physical contact.  Hell, if you can punch out a candle with over a foot of distance between your fist and the flame then you can probably do some real damage to some internal organs if you got a clean, proper punch in while fighting.

You need to remember that nearly all fights that don't include projectiles take place within range of physical contact.  It wouldn't be much of a fight if they couldn't reach each other.

I'm not pulling crap out of my arse here with this.  This is real martial arts and real Qi work I'm talking about.  Fighting is a science that's been developing since the dawn of conflict between two beings and the various Qi disciplines (namely Taijiquan first) have been a work in progress for over 5,000 years now!  Its a "No Super Saiyans Allowed" club!  Blonde reverse-vegetable people ("Saiya" is "yasai" reverse which means "vegetable") in Shonen Jump aren't going to teach you real combat.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/introcombat.html

Here's some basic info that should introduce you into how to use Qi in a combat situation.  The links in the post I wrote before (the one you replied to) should be sufficient for building up enough Qi to be able to pull off the Intro to Combat Qi.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/defenseiron.html

This here is a good intro into tempering your body like Iron so that you can take hits without being damaged as easily.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/basicqi.html

For those of you who don't want a Qigong routine that's several pages long, here's some Introductory Exercises.  You won't get as much progress because Qigong literally means "energy work" and the more you work the better you get, but it should help you start.  I suggest adding the Zhan Zhuang that I spoke of in my prrevious post in this thread to this workout to make it more worth your time.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/anger.html

This is a primer on how Anger and POwer relate to each other.  This one's an especially good read for those who assume that anger = power.

http://www.dragonslist.com/

I'm going to mention this site again because it has some beautiful training methods like the Sunlight Hand Arts I mentioned before as well as good strategies like blocking and striking at the same time.

kakkarot

quote:
so how do u fire the ki tyhen as an attack

i maen an blast ki attack u know!
you don't blast things kenshin. anime is not real, you don't blow stuff/people up.

but if you want to learn how to use energy to hurt people: spend a few years learning how to feel and move chi, then ask again.

~kakkarot

kenshinhan604

quote:
Originally posted by KenYang

You don't "fire" it.  The closest thing to "firing" it is the Kong Jing ability and I don't know Kong Jing.

The closest thing you can do to "firing" Qi is doing Butterfly Palm (a Gongfu move that looks similar to a Kamehameha) Tekken style (physical contact).  Once you get the basics, you can trnasfer Qi through physical contact.  Hell, if you can punch out a candle with over a foot of distance between your fist and the flame then you can probably do some real damage to some internal organs if you got a clean, proper punch in while fighting.

You need to remember that nearly all fights that don't include projectiles take place within range of physical contact.  It wouldn't be much of a fight if they couldn't reach each other.

I'm not pulling crap out of my arse here with this.  This is real martial arts and real Qi work I'm talking about.  Fighting is a science that's been developing since the dawn of conflict between two beings and the various Qi disciplines (namely Taijiquan first) have been a work in progress for over 5,000 years now!  Its a "No Super Saiyans Allowed" club!  Blonde reverse-vegetable people ("Saiya" is "yasai" reverse which means "vegetable") in Shonen Jump aren't going to teach you real combat.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/introcombat.html

Here's some basic info that should introduce you into how to use Qi in a combat situation.  The links in the post I wrote before (the one you replied to) should be sufficient for building up enough Qi to be able to pull off the Intro to Combat Qi.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/defenseiron.html

This here is a good intro into tempering your body like Iron so that you can take hits without being damaged as easily.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/basicqi.html

For those of you who don't want a Qigong routine that's several pages long, here's some Introductory Exercises.  You won't get as much progress because Qigong literally means "energy work" and the more you work the better you get, but it should help you start.  I suggest adding the Zhan Zhuang that I spoke of in my prrevious post in this thread to this workout to make it more worth your time.

http://www.pathoftheancient.net/code/library/anger.html

This is a primer on how Anger and POwer relate to each other.  This one's an especially good read for those who assume that anger = power.

http://www.dragonslist.com/

I'm going to mention this site again because it has some beautiful training methods like the Sunlight Hand Arts I mentioned before as well as good strategies like blocking and striking at the same time.






josh my man you always hav a cool website!!!
nice one really helped!!!!

so u cant fire it and you cant eat it so what can u do with it besides punching i mean can you actually use it to wait a minute mistic idan claims that she can use beams and balls which i thought you cant do?[:O][:O][}:)][:(]??

now im confused!!![:(]

nyone wanna help me?[?][?]

KenYang

quote:
Originally posted by kenshinhan604


josh my man you always hav a cool website!!!
nice one really helped!!!!



No problem.  I'm glad to help when it comes to learning about Qi for martial arts.

quote:



so u cant fire it and you cant eat it so what can u do with it besides punching i mean can you actually use it to wait a minute mistic idan claims that she can use beams and balls which i thought you cant do?[:O][:O][}:)][:(]??

now im confused!!![:(]

nyone wanna help me?[?][?]



You can make "balls" but they aren't really balls.  Its simply your Qi from each hand mashing into each other and pushing your hands apart (which feels like holding a ball).  You can make it leave your body like a Qi Blast but it'll only work through physical contact.  You can transfer the Qi into another person's body through a punch, but you can't emit it through the air in such a focused manner without special training.  Unfortunately, I have never undertaken such special training so I can't do it.

However, there is an alternative.  I have an article on a website about an art called Kiaijutsu.  If you read it carefully you will come across ways that you can affect another person with your Qi without touching them by correct use of the Kiai.

Before I give you the link, here's a few notes:

When I wrote this, I was using the modern everyday Japanese definition and spelling of Qi: Ki ("spirit" as in "intent, emotion, and mind-set").

Another note is that I had to split the article into two posts due to a 10,000 character limit so be sure to read both posts to learn the whole article.

Lastly, I'll be referring to a Qigong manual on that site a few times.  You can find it, along with my old Kiaijutsu guide, in the Articles section of the website.

Here's the link: http://forums.theveritasacademy.net/showthread.php?t=961

kenshinhan604

I have an article on a website about an art called Kiaijutsu.  If you read it carefully you will come across ways that you can affect another person with your Qi without touching them by correct use of the Kiai.



cool do tell an easy alternativ plez[:I]

KenYang

quote:
Originally posted by kenshinhan604

I have an article on a website about an art called Kiaijutsu.  If you read it carefully you will come across ways that you can affect another person with your Qi without touching them by correct use of the Kiai.



cool do tell an easy alternativ plez[:I]



Read my entire post about the easy alternative.  I gave you a link to the article at the bottom of my post.  In that article I speak of how to use the easy alternative.

kenshinhan604

josh my man in the lin k it sez

freezing people in place", "knocking people over

in the forh part of shadow kai ...

so....
canyou....
plez,...[:I]
explain it to me coz i dnt hav a clue how to use it....[:(]

KenYang

quote:
Originally posted by kenshinhan604

josh my man in the lin k it sez

freezing people in place", "knocking people over

in the forh part of shadow kai ...

so....
canyou....
plez,...[:I]
explain it to me coz i dnt hav a clue how to use it....[:(]



"To Kiai, one must be like the bow and arrow. Inhale as one would normally for Qigong Form (refer to Chapter 1 of Qigong Book by Darkduck). The inhale is not dissimilar to that of an archer drawing back the bow when preparing to release an arrow upon a foe. When exhaling, one would tighten the abdominal area while creating a loud "Ha!" sound. This is to be no different than when an archer lets his arrow fly. Other sounds that are commonly used are "Ai!", "E-eye!", or "Ya!" The basic reason for tightening the abdominal area is so that one will "shout with their entire body instead of just their face." Forcing a Kiai out of the throat will make one hoarse and may likely lead to one losing their voice, making the Kiai impossible to perform. Other reasons for tightening the abdominal area will be explained while going further into the vast uses such as making strikes and kicks stronger, overcoming fear and pain, and sustaining blows without injury. After covering such topics, more distinct Kiai developed for specific purposes will be covered."

"Another very good mental weapon is to take advantage of the opponent's fear. When the opponent is preparing to or approaching to take the offensive, the Kiai can be used to project the intent and to project Chi into the opponent. With proper timing and a proper powerful Kiai one of a few certain effects will likely take place. The first is intimidation. The opponent can be intimidated a little bit which lowers the spirit, thus the Chi, and ultimately the overall power of the opponent. The opponent fould be intimidated to the point where they back down or that other nearby potential additional danger decides not to attack. A third effect is the opponent becoming slightly stunned and flenching. With this slight stun, which normally lasts up to one second at most, the individual can follow up on the Kiai with an attack without the worry of being defended against. The fourth would be a more powerful stun that could cause the opponent to step back, stumble, or even lose balance and fall over! Out of these effects, with proper timing and power taken into consideration, the most likely effect will be a slight stun unless one's Kiai is truly exceptional. These effects may, whether deliberately or not, take place while performing the Kiai for the other reasons stated in the above paragraphs."

That's aboutas basic as I can make it.  My only other advice I can give you is to go to a Karate class and ask the Sensei how to Kiai.

Also, read the entire article and read it carefully!  You'll better understand what I'm talking about if you don't just skim through it.

kenshinhan604

quote:
Originally posted by KenYang

QuoteOriginally posted by kenshinhan604

josh my man in the lin k it sez

freezing people in place", "knocking people over

in the forh part of shadow kai ...

so....
canyou....
plez,...[:I]
explain it to me coz i dnt hav a clue how to use it....[:(]



"To Kiai, one must be like the bow and arrow. Inhale as one would normally for Qigong Form (refer to Chapter 1 of Qigong Book by Darkduck). The inhale is not dissimilar to that of an archer drawing back the bow when preparing to release an arrow upon a foe. When exhaling, one would tighten the abdominal area while creating a loud "Ha!" sound. This is to be no different than when an archer lets his arrow fly. Other sounds that are commonly used are "Ai!", "E-eye!", or "Ya!" The basic reason for tightening the abdominal area is so that one will "shout with their entire body instead of just their face." Forcing a Kiai out of the throat will make one hoarse and may likely lead to one losing their voice, making the Kiai impossible to perform. Other reasons for tightening the abdominal area will be explained while going further into the vast uses such as making strikes and kicks stronger, overcoming fear and pain, and sustaining blows without injury. After covering such topics, more distinct Kiai developed for specific purposes will be covered."

"Another very good mental weapon is to take advantage of the opponent's fear. When the opponent is preparing to or approaching to take the offensive, the Kiai can be used to project the intent and to project Chi into the opponent. With proper timing and a proper powerful Kiai one of a few certain effects will likely take place. The first is intimidation. The opponent can be intimidated a little bit which lowers the spirit, thus the Chi, and ultimately the overall power of the opponent. The opponent fould be intimidated to the point where they back down or that other nearby potential additional danger decides not to attack. A third effect is the opponent becoming slightly stunned and flenching. With this slight stun, which normally lasts up to one second at most, the individual can follow up on the Kiai with an attack without the worry of being defended against. The fourth would be a more powerful stun that could cause the opponent to step back, stumble, or even lose balance and fall over! Out of these effects, with proper timing and power taken into consideration, the most likely effect will be a slight stun unless one's Kiai is truly exceptional. These effects may, whether deliberately or not, take place while performing the Kiai for the other reasons stated in the above paragraphs."

That's aboutas basic as I can make it.  My only other advice I can give you is to go to a Karate class and ask the Sensei how to Kiai.

Also, read the entire article and read it carefully!  You'll better understand what I'm talking about if you don't just skim through it.
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josh ya savd me again!!!

nice to here that shouting can help for once!!!


thast link on vertias academys brill
can you open third eye if so how???