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wisp

Sampson,
Interesting dream. I had a dream once that involved racing. I haven't figured it out yet. I can thumb through some dream books.
So far, I've seen the word seance in only one, I have at hand, "The Language of Dreams", by Patricia Tolesco.

Missing someone who passed over. Wishing the person is nearby for advice or companionship.

Getting in touch with your own feelings. About death or afterlife.

Potential missives from beyond. A ghostly message using this form because it is more familiar, and less frightening.

Communication between yourself and other realms of spirit, including the devine.


I looked up racing in this same book. It said to look under marathon or running.
Marathon:
A physically trying situation that has gone on seemingly forever.

Finishing a M reflects your ability to endure physical stress as long as you prepare.



Hmmm, I just remembered something as I was writing this statement in reply to Etheric's recent post:
quote:
I've have little or no control of my dreams. The one time I remember actually doing something (I didn't understand at the time), a major change happened in my life. My dream character showed a lot of power, something I'm just the opposite in my waking world.


This major change which occurred in my life I believe was the result of a dream that disturbed me a bit. In my dream, I merged with this individual who I had never met personally (a female), except online. Later in the dream I did some physical changes to some people associated with this same person. The result was the person who I thought was under her evil spell (in real life), was freed. This person who I was worried about, broke ties with this evil bunch within days! Him and I have continued to be online friends for some time now. We had broken ties for about 3 months because of his "spell" he had seemed to be under with this odd bunch. Hey, I just thought of something, I may have broken the "spell", as the saying goes!

Sampson, you may have been doing some "merging" yourself. Except in my dream I wasn't an observer.So maybe your practicing, or doing something in a different way. In my dream mentioned, I was a bit (a lot actually) on the witchy side.




Sampson

Hi Wisp,
Thanks for your reply and for looking up the dream meanings in your book.

I can relate with most of the things that your book mentions especially "Getting in touch with your own feelings. About death or afterlife." and "Communication between yourself and other realms of spirit, including the devine.".

I have been thinking about Astral projection and oobe's very often in the past few weeks, and this is probably a reflection of just that, what I did find strange about this dream is that it resulted in pushing me into consciousness or an aware state but with my body still asleep or paralysed.

Your dream sounds very interesting, were you lucid in this dream and could you feel the merger of yourself with the other person?

I find the topic of lucidity very interesting, in all of my dreams I am extremely aware of what is happening, I can remember colours (I always dream in colour), smells, people, what people have said, places, what I have done all right down to little details.

But is lucidity the ability to remember what is occuring in your dreams or the ability to change the dream you are having?
I would say that if you are aware in your dreams then you are to a certain extent lucid, whether or not you make decisions in your dream or are merely led along perhaps depends on each persons character, will power, ego etc.

I am always very "aware" in my dreams but I rarely take control and make the dream what I want or would like it to be, thats not to say that I don't have dreams that I enjoy.

Anyway thanks for you reply, I have another dream that I had about a year and a half ago that I would like to share I still remember it vivdly but just haven't been able to figure it out, I'll make a new post a bit later when I have a moment.

Cheers

S  





'To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.'

William Blake ('Auguries of Innocence')

wisp

Hi Sampson,
It is believed, and I do too, that one must find the male and female side for completion. I have a feeling personally that paralysed is some sort of stop gap between the astral and physical existence. I say this because my life consists of spiritual and physical together. My life has been such that I have played the male and female role simutaneously. Therefore, I don't have to work through this,having actually experienced it. That's just an example. You did become paralysed at this junction. In my case for example, I have a time dealing with negative, evil, or dark aspects. I have experienced the paralysed state twice in my entire life. I believe this dark unknown was a stop gap for me, but, only once. After that I moved on to the real confrontation. I have this in my life, but now I'm moving toward higher understanding of it.

Yes, I did feel this merging taking place. I think your right about the various levels of lucidity. I'm only lucid while going to sleep and waking up. The only control I have is when I'm working on visuals when I first close my eyes.After that, I go with the flow, and what ever happens, happen.

I am working on learning about how what is dreamed is carried to the physical. The subject of lucidity is becoming clearer to me. When I first started studying dreams, what is called lucidity, I never recognized as important. I thought it was just my imagination at work. If asked, I have a vivid imagination.

Your ability to remember is great. This is something I have to work on.One time I even caught myself while waking up, changing the story. Like a blip, the true dream (or memory) was gone, for some reason I replaced it with a different point or subject material. At this point, all I had was my symbols to fall back on. I wonder if this isn't done more often, and I just happen to catch it that one time.The things that fill in these lost places to me are the smells, sounds, feels. I'm not sure I'm making much sense with what I'm trying to say here.

I've read about changing dream content. Personally, I've never had enough bad dreams to want to do that.A lot of my dreams I try to catch the message. I know where to go from there. Like for instance, dream-wise, I know I'm doing the right thing in life. The problems I face has to do with other people in my life and the ethical way to handle things. I'm not getting any outward signs what to do.So really, all I have left is letting nature take it's course. Unfortunately, there is a clash between nature and the wrong systems man has constructed.Man's structures I can see, I doubt the average dude does, thus frustration, anger, confusion, on and on....

Yes, I believe people can use their subconscious in negative ways. But, what one person sees as negative, the other person does not. However, I also believe many people believe wrong things. Why else do troubles go on?

Looking forward to your next dream. [:)]

Sampson

Hi All,
Since recapturing my interest in all things to do with astral projection over the past few weeks I have noticed that my dreams have started to reflect this interest too, below is one that I had three days ago.

The dream wasn't a particularly long one but quite memorable (I have no problem remembering my dreams in the morning).

The dream took place in a small, bland dimly lit room not comforting but not unpleasant either, in the room was a man sat at a table he was I estimate in his mid forty's this man was a spirit medium, also in the room accompanying him was a younger woman probably between Twenty and Thirty years old.

I for my part in the dream was just an observer and I don't believe that the two people mentioned above were aware of my presence.
The woman possessed some mediumistic skills which the man was trying help her improve.

In the dream the woman became aware of a spirit presence, she described the spirit as wearing a tracksuit and said that she could also smell the spirit too.

The next part of the dream was quite strange, the spirit attempted to enter the body of the woman at which point I became conscious myself.

The dream at this point had now ended, and I was now in the familiar paralysed state with the feeling of considerable pressure on my chest.

I am familiar with the paralysed sensation from previous oobe experience and I believe that this sensation probably always accompanies oobes and comes just before leaving or returing to the body afterwards.

I think that lucidity in dreams is variable and not just 'On' or 'Off'.
What I mean by that is that for me the lucidity is like a dial where it can switch between an infinite amount of lucidity, very low (poor dream re-call or no dreams to re-call perhaps) right up to total lucidity with the ability to alter the dream as it happens.

For me though there seems to be a fine line between total lucidity in the dream and the shift to consciousness in the paralysed body (desirable for oobe's I believe) and also actually pulling yourself out of sleep altogether.

I'd be interested to see what others have to say about lucidity in dreams, I have a few other dreams I'd like to share sometime too, but this post has been going on a bit now so that'll do for the time being!

Thanks for listening

S


'To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.'

William Blake ('Auguries of Innocence')