Lucidity: easy to achieve, hard to sustain!!!?

[Logic]

Hey there,

I can't help you too much with your projecting problems, because I myself am not very succesful, though, I can give some advice on your lucidity issue.

Usually, you're most lucid when you're about to wake up. However, the best ways you can stay lucid normally, is constantly reminding yourself of it.

Rubbing your hands, talking to yourself, spinning around all help you center yourself and maintain awarness (for me atleast). Even a simple little phrase like "awarness now" goes along way, or you can try and use your own mantra.

The more aware you are in your dreams, the more potential and freedom you have.

[McArthur]

quote:Originally posted by Ensoñador

I´v been experiencing lucid dreams 3 days a week, but only for fife seconds ,or so, being really conscious. It is more easy to me to OBE than to LD.  I can only make OBE in real time zone though....

I have two questions: How can I have a high level projection? I always find myselef out of my body but some friend told me I shoould not try to be in the real time zone for its a low level plane. I ve stoped my practises since then, cause Im trapped in that dimension and cant go any further.

I don't think its what can be called a "low level plane" but as Robert says like a buffer zone between the Physical and Astral. You could try various methods to get into an Astral area from that zone. Try spinning around really fast until everything seems blurred might work. Or float into a mirror or painting or photograph. Or even better you could construct your own Astral "personal space/temple" using visualization over a period of time (you can have trees, fields, temples, etc) then once you are OOBE just imagine/will yourself into that place by visualizing it (maybe spinning around at the same time) you used to construct with your imagination. Have you looked at this forum http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=43  ?

Shamans also use other techniques such as visualizing climbing a ladder or tree for the "Upper World" or going into a cave or hole in the earth to enter the "Lower World" to contact their power animals.

[Tombo]

I tend to slip back into the dream as well, when I did not become completly lucid. Try to get completly lucid by touching the ground, looking at your hands and mentaly repeating that you are in a dream.

[McArthur]

quote:Originally posted by tombodenmann

 Try to get completly lucid by touching the ground, looking at your hands and mentaly repeating that you are in a dream.

Yeah and you might want to do that while awake too... []

[jc84corvette]

I became Lucid a long time ago(months) but once I relized it, I woke up!

[Jon_88]

Had a Crazy dream of being somewhere and there was other people , i was saying where am i , someone came to me and shouted "think hes awaking!" Anyway i became lucid and confused as i was always on the werge of slipping back into unconciusness . There was 2 i think that gave me diffrent stuff to do to keep me awake! i had to tell about myself (the little i rembered i was lucid but with memory problem!).

Also had state what diffrent things i saw . And if i said dunno and got one wrong someone would shake me or slap and Say "Do not fall asleep!" and i would wake up some more to say i was sorry.

Dream kinda ended with me eventually fading away so no amount of pinching or slapping would do the trick. Think one said "Damn hes a goner" and last thing i remember was someone standing infront of me saying "Atleast try and remember this!".

One crazy dream! But i did remember it[]

[Ensoñador]

Hello:

I´v been experiencing lucid dreams 3 days a week, but only for fife seconds ,or so, being really conscious. It is more easy to me to OBE than to LD.  I can only make OBE in real time zone though....

I have two questions: How can I have a high level projection? I always find myselef out of my body but some friend told me I shoould not try to be in the real time zone for its a low level plane. I ve stoped my practises since then, cause Im trapped in that dimension and cant go any further.  My other question is about lucid dreaming....When I,m already conscious, how can I stay for long time like that? Its like I say to my self, "oh Imn dreaming!", but then as if never great happened keep doing my dream, following the same old unconscious patterns. Last week for example, I had this dream where I was running away from zombies in a Ferrari, then I realized I was dreaming, but then after a few seconds while I repeated to my self "Im dreaming, Im dreamin", I felt scared again about zombies and started again to run away from them. When I woke up I think: " How stupid, I knew I was dreaming, but still was afraid of this things"

                                 Thank you