Levitation (yes levitation!)

[Haematite]

hey[]
If your mental body is strong and developed enough it could rise up your physical one with it also. In that way Christ had been walking on water. Maybe we should stop wanting that ...I mean that when we stop to want anything we could acheive everything.[] And that's why there are only few people capable of doing such a "miracles" - because it's in human egoself nature to want so many things they don't really need...
Good luck[]

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by Gwathren

quote:Originally posted by Reality

Those piramids were build by means of levitation, and yes there were highly advanced civilizations involved, for a fact.

I'm afraid I won't be convinced about that, but I'll let them be. Fact is that they exist. Whether built by egyptins or "green jellymen".

That's good to hear because I'm not here to convince or force my thoughts to anyone nor I'm interested in debating this matter. You are right, those piramids are standing, and that's what counts.

HAEM >> I was with you on the mental body developement. But then you dissapointed me with the statement 'about wanting things we dont really need'. If you want something you have to do the work that is required for the ultimate goal, saint theresa may have been reported to float without even desiring it, thats good for her, but dont expect such a miracle to happen for the 'modern/current' human being. Persistance is the key, and even if the goal wont be achieved...this isn't your only life, at least that's what I believe.

Peace:)

[robertk4you]

all psychic abilities,like levitation,teleportation,telekinesis,invisibility,and all others are possible to achive.there are many cases,and witnesses,who saw people doing those staff.like famous d.d home,was well-known for all people,by levitation,or moving objects with his mind.or sai baba,who physically teleportate from one place to another.to achive all this skills physically is hard,and it can takes long time to achive.achiving those skills on astral plane,is much easier,which can be mastered in as little as few months of daily meditations,and exercises.for example.if you gonna practise invisibility,one day,you will be so good at it,that you will deside to become invisible on astral plane.you go to your friends house,you go inside,where they are,and tehy won't see you,until you will talk to them ,or they will touch you.its like ,they will not look for you,or look at your direction.the secret in this skill  is to pretend,that ur invisible in the place you are.achiving this skill on physical plane,can take few years to master it,as stated by some spirit.even jesus said ,that we can do miracles as he did,like healing,and much more.

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by robertk4you

all psychic abilities,like levitation,teleportation,telekinesis,invisibility,and all others are possible to achive.there are many cases,and witnesses,who saw people doing those staff.like famous d.d home,was well-known for all people,by levitation,or moving objects with his mind.or sai baba,who physically teleportate from one place to another.to achive all this skills physically is hard,and it can takes long time to achive.achiving those skills on astral plane,is much easier,which can be mastered in as little as few months of daily meditations,and exercises.for example.if you gonna practise invisibility,one day,you will be so good at it,that you will deside to become invisible on astral plane.you go to your friends house,you go inside,where they are,and tehy won't see you,until you will talk to them ,or they will touch you.its like ,they will not look for you,or look at your direction.the secret in this skill  is to pretend,that ur invisible in the place you are.achiving this skill on physical plane,can take few years to master it,as stated by some spirit.even jesus said ,that we can do miracles as he did,like healing,and much more.

On the astral plane? Do you mean like when you are OOB, while your body is asleep? Interesting. Tell me..

[Moonburn33]

scientists have recently been able to raise stones of pyramid magnitude using very very complex lever systems- showing that even if the egyptians could levitate things, they were as intelligent as us scientifically as well.  With a State class society such as the egyptians, using levitation would be too efficient.  to get their economy going and stimulated they would use many many people to raise the stones via a pully system.  The goal of monumental architecture like the pyramids was to demonstrate the power, ingenuity and wealth of the civilization- to keep the peasants from revolting against it.

[robertk4you]

yes,when you sleep at night,you oobe.this is why we dream every night,but for some reason many people don't remember them.at night,your astral body,seperates from your physical body,and then your astral body is going for a astral travel.you astral body(soul)meets many places,people,or objects in another dimensions,without knowing about it.its hard to xplain,but i think you know what i mean.your soul travels at speed of light,so thats why, your soul can travel to many different dimensions.when your journey is done,done your soul comeback to your physical body,and you wake up.

[Moonburn33]

and here i was thinking that the various parts of ourselves were in reality one unit and we only separated them into physical/astral/mental.  my bad

[pyro4571]

i bbelieve that the pyramids were probobly built using both levitation and physical labor. and both sides of this discussion hav some good points.

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by robertk4you

yes,when you sleep at night,you oobe.this is why we dream every night,but for some reason many people don't remember them.at night,your astral body,seperates from your physical body,and then your astral body is going for a astral travel.you astral body(soul)meets many places,people,or objects in another dimensions,without knowing about it.its hard to xplain,but i think you know what i mean.your soul travels at speed of light,so thats why, your soul can travel to many different dimensions.when your journey is done,done your soul comeback to your physical body,and you wake up.

Ok. I realize we are getting a little of topic, and also of forum. But you are saying dreams already are oobes? I mean some dreams really appear to generated scenarios of memories produced by the mind, while others hardly make any sense. But so..can you take control of yourself there and then like travel to your own city in your astral body??? Or whatever place...to practice those wingmakers skills etc...
[hey thats kind of ontopic again ha!]

thanks again for that wingmakers site man!

[robertk4you]

you confusing this with astral teleportation.you cannot control you dreams while you sleep,and you cannot go to your city.the only way,you can visit specific cities,or places,is by astral travel.going there physically,takes longer time to master.

[pyro4571]

the pyramids are a very interesting topic, but the fact remains that they were built thousands of years ago, and so noone really knows what happened, so you should all stop trying to prove your points and just accept that everyone has an opinion

[Haematite]

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Well, I agree one could visit certain places by astral travelling, but it's also truth that one could control their dreams. Sometimes I rule mine...heh and then it's hard for me to find out if I was sleeping or just dreaming until thinking[] You just should "tune" your mind that you want to control your dreams and then you'll feel that during dreaming you're somekind awake and capable of thinking over the situation.

Reality, in my previous post by saying that most people want things they don't really need I meant that there's a difference between body needs, egoself needs and soul needs. Sometimes people long for material things which aren't important for their spiritual development - some people's priority are their body needs and they waste their life time trying to satisfy their body or egoself... For me that isn't the right way because I consider my soul needs to be most important.
Be safe[]

[pyro4571]

levitation would be really awesome, if you could lift heavy things with it.

[Michael pol]

i think it possible

[pod3]

I believe that, just as you can project into drawings, you can also project into daydreams. That is lucid dreaming to me.

From a lucid dream taking place in real time, you can cause things to happen.

I wonder why, if it is proven by biofeedback that dreaming brainwaves can be produced consciously, the same effects produced from dreams could not be produced consciously. It must be a matter of having enough mental energy to get simultaneous awareness of the light body and the physical body, or just going into a directed trance.

[alpine9]

Do you think Robert Bruce can levitate?

[majour ka]

quote:Originally posted by boydster

The guy in my avatar pic is called Babaji, and he is a famous saint from India who is mentioned in the book "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Yogananda. He can definitely levitate, along with a lot of other cool stuff, like dematerialize himself, create physical objects from pure energy, etc. And I believe it says that he's over 300 years old too.

The answer to levitation is God....becoming one with God. It isn't a matter of practicing psychic tricks. Unless a person joins completely with his God Presence or Higher Self through years of surrender and spiritual discipline, along with balancing his karma, that person would never have access to the amount of energy needed for things like levitation.

There are documented cases of Catholic saints who levitate into the air while in a state of ecstasy of prayer to God. Whoops...there's God again.

The good news is that this stuff is available to everyone. And you don't have to join a church or something like that. But I think that the only ones who make enough spiritual progress in one life to demonstrate these powers are those who devote their whole life to God, good works and personal discipline and sacrifice. Those are the people who are entrusted with ENORMOUS amounts of energy. It's because they can be trusted not to misuse it.

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Im with Boydster! (mines the lazy post[])

[Vvid1012]

Ok, this is just a thought, and I am not very familiar with this but...If any of you know of the Akashic records and have been able to tap into them, perhaps you could tap back to the creation of the pyramids?  If I am correct, the Akashic records are records of every event in the history of existence...If they even do exist.  I'm sure it's been tried before, and is worth a shot!

[distant bell]

Pretty wild idea that the pyramides where built with "mental powers".
So in that case, why has this art of moving objects with the mind got lost? I know that some claim that there still are people around that can levitate or do TK or whatever.. but
has anybody actually SEEN anyone move a thing with rara magical powers?
In the mind everything is possible, but I suspect that it is a bit different in the material world. I would like to have some evidence before I belive in it. After al there are people who belive in elfs and little green men to- now dose this prove that they exist?
A bit of healthy scepticism is not a bad thing really..

If this kind of TK really would have existed, I am pretty sure there would have been proof of it.

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by distant bell

Pretty wild idea that the pyramides where built with "mental powers".
So in that case, why has this art of moving objects with the mind got lost? I know that some claim that there still are people around that can levitate or do TK or whatever.. but
has anybody actually SEEN anyone move a thing with rara magical powers?
In the mind everything is possible, but I suspect that it is a bit different in the material world. I would like to have some evidence before I belive in it. After al there are people who belive in elfs and little green men to- now dose this prove that they exist?
A bit of healthy scepticism is not a bad thing really..

If this kind of TK really would have existed, I am pretty sure there would have been proof of it.

Well there's quite a few people on these forums who are already able to spin a psiwheel heh

As for the pyramids, blame the people from Mu.

[distant bell]

yes, well, spinning a psi-wheel.. I have not seen it done.
Perhaps it works perhaps and it dosn't. But still, is there not a slight difference between spinning a psi-wheel and lifting enormous stone blocks?

But, honestly. So many people say that the old egyptians did this or that, why should such very valuable abilitys have gotten lost..
If people once could comunicate with thelepathy, or move giant stone blocks with there will, why not carry on this tradition? Why labour at al back in egypt when you could do anything with the mind.
Personally I think that this is an important question.

And all people who claim that they can do TK or levitation, why not show it? I would not doubt it if I saw it. I am open minded. I know alot of pepole who are into the spiritual stuff, and they al believe that this and that can be done, but no one I have ever meet has actually seen anything in real life. Actually many modern magickians say that magick works on the mental plaine only.

[Reality]

I don't think I'm interested in discussing the possibility and history of levitation right now. I know it is possible.

To levitate you must first make your body weightless due to raising certain vibrations, and then use your thoughts to move your body(as you would spin the psiwheel).

I think now that 'directly' focussing your meditations on levitation it self isn't the way to go for persons like me who have only just started to see glimpses of the beautiful possibilities in this new/dormant reality. I mean I first would sit/stand and direct my focus upwards, hoping to levitate.

No, I think now it takes a truly enlightended person with a greatly developed chakra system to levitate. In other words it probably takes a greatly developed energy body to be able to create such vibrations needed to make yourself weightless. And not just the first 7 chakras...I read stuff about the 8-12 chakras..About when the 8 chakra starts to open up you start to experience some of the higher spiritual abilities(like astral project, telekinises, you name it) but won't control them until your 9-12 chakras are opened.

I think...that people who can do some minor telekinisis have started to tap into their 8th chakra..

Anyway this piece of home writing is based on some probably trustable information I read and the way I processed it, so if there's anyone to correct it, please do.

By the way...damn...this chakra system is so ingenious!!!

later!

[Vvid1012]

hmm, where are these so called 8-12 chakras?

[Reality]

I think seriously that this 'mysterious' skill can be learned by a human being. So when I'm meditating I try to focus my energy all over the body and focus on the sound from within, also in combination of imagining I'm already floating above a beach or something And also by playing with my breathing..

I think becoming weightless is all about creating a certain ammount of vibrations...that causes you to float..Sometimes I can fly in dreams, and then it happens like its the most normal thing in the world...i think there might be some truth in that...doing it as if it was the most normal thing in the world..

Of course there will always be people that say it to be impossible, but really if the whole world takes over that belief, then its not surprising not anyone can levitate...

Anyway, I wanted to create a topic about this. Because I was hoping for some input on training levitations...anything serious