Focusing in the astral?

[lem]

This type of lucid dreaming consistent with luxus sleep, feeling of separation from the body, and tunnel sight in the near bed zone. Your practice may turn on a new course.

Get away from your bed as quickly as you can while make surface contact of the walls. Move to dream places which brighter than the previous.

Then establish a stable point in the dreamscape and begin wander your attention in growing routes. Don't stare anything and don't try to fly until the dream stabilize itself. Then raise the level of consciousness and you're ready to go.

[Patrik]

Am I the only one who found him calling it a lucid dream, and dreamscape a bit annoying ?

hmm...

[Nay]

Ahhh..nope not really, being from Russia they might have different words for the same thing.[]

Nay

[ralphm]

Maybe you focus too long? I have also had lots of problem with seeing clearly with obe experiences, some people have suggested using the affermation clarity now or some such thing-anyone have other ones? It seems to work when you remember to use it. Focusing on something has helped me when i move around too much, I'm not sure it is a vision thing as much as an awareness tool. Keep trying, you will get it, I have also had times when i opened my physical eyes, but now i have thoughts while obe to not open them and it seems to work, but it does not help with vision, only to prolong the misery of having an obe with poor vision.

[innerpilot]

My first reaction, very quickly, was that this perhaps was some type of projection,maybe not in an astral realm, but some sort of expanded body experience (EBE), then after I completed reading the message, I also felt there may have been a problem with communication on the writers part as well as my comprehension and I've concluded that I need to read more from this person. I really don't have enough information at this time to make any qualitative judgement to render  meaningful assistance.

[Makaveli]

Thanks for the responses everyone.  I'm starting to think that whatever it is I'm doing wrong is causing my eyes to strain or open ruining the AP.  I separated 4 times this morning and kept losing it when I would try to concentrate my sight more closely on the environment to try and stabilize the experience.  I was able stare at the ground while walking without problems which seemed to help stabilize the experience a little.  

But maybe this keeps happening since I'm expecting it to be a problem it was never an issue in my earlier projections.  Like when I projected this morning I was unsure and debating about how I should try looking around, while the thought of losing the AP came up.  

[lem]

I have used the word of "dreaming" simply for two reasons - not for degrade the experience. First, I tend to call the states simply as "dream" when my body is asleep and found myself seeing pictures at the same time. Second, I know this type of "dreaming" from previous experiences.

Because, the eyes must wander to prevent awakeing, close focusing of surfaces have reverse effect. This is a REM-sleep mixed with something other. The other component is something to do with OBE. To really project into the astral (above F23) the EEG band-power at 10Hz must be silent.

It's likely that Makaveli has an F22-projection with all the problem caused by the diffuse focus at the initial stages. The sight is poor because of the great deal of attention remain on the body (upper neck region). Pulling from short distances can hinder the separation, eyes can be opened, and breathing is audible at the near-bed zone. From 4 of 5 times the bed is empty.

The "energy body" is in a state of "partial decondensation" and unable to perceive the energy sytems of C1. Gaps in the reality are substitued by self-generated pictures (dream hallucinations). In fact, the entire house of the dreamer generated by beliefs, serve as a landing unit, and protect him from sensory collapsus.

So, this is not a simple dream at all, at least in the sense of ordinality. Visitors from outside of the dreamer's mind can project themselves into it, and vocalised orders (propelled by the high awaraness) are able to force the fitting process between the projected dreamscape and the energy systems from "outside." However, this type of projection will come to end quickly unless awareness is not reorganised properly right at the initial states.

[Makaveli]

I've been projecting a lot lately but I'm having problems with my sight.  I can usually see but whenever I try and focus on the environment to look at something or to get more clarity I lose the projection.  Sometimes focusing causes my physical eyes to open.  I heard focusing on something can bring your level of awareness up but seems like every time I try and look at something closely or to perceive the environment better it ends.  Any advice?