Telekinesis Fiction or Reality

[fireprooflighter]

Telekinesis is only possible if you want it to be. If you don't want to see it, you never will. ::shrugs::

You have to find your own proof of TK, no one can just give it to you.

[CptPicard]

Hello fireprooflighter,
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>Telekinesis is only possible if you want it to be. If you don't want to see it, you never will. ::shrugs::
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Have you ever moved an object yourself?
If not, do you beleive in TK?
Have you ever seen it done from anyone else? and what kind of objects can be moved? *size and weight?*

I would assume your mind must be very disciplined, and would probably take many years to master?

I find it fascinating but at the same time I'm very skeptical.

can any one give me a clear explanation on how something which is physical, be moved by by something which is not!

My only explanation is that its some kind of electromagnetic force or impulse.

But then how can the body produce such an energy?

I'm just starting to get-into all this spiritual stuff, mainly because of family deaths and wanting to contact them...... But one thing then leads to another and equals *TK*

Regards
Paul

[Nagual]

Just want to say that even physics says that everything is made of energy...  Personaly, I can't do TK and never tried to.  But I can feel my energy and can move parts of my body with it.  Like making a chi ball between my palms and then moving one palm closer will push the other palm away like a magnet...  Same with the opposite: if I move one palm away, the other is pulled to it.  Maybe it's related....?

[fireprooflighter]

Actually, I've had my PSI wheel move. I do believe in TK, or else it would have never happened.

Basically you can move small, light objects: Pieces of paper, a pencil... It would take more lifetimes than we have to move say a car.

Most of the world once thought the world was flat and that the earth was the center of the universe, because that's what they were taught. No one could prove the sun was the center or the earth was round until someone tried (I couldnt actually give you the names, I'm no history buff) We couldn't see germs, we thought diseases were spread by "magic". We thought weather was created by gods in the sky. There was just no technology to prove other wise.(A slight ramble yes)

We've (most of us anyway) been raised being taught that TK is not possible. But so many myths have been disproven, its only a matter of time until the TK one is.

Some people pick up telekinesis more readily than others.

[Nick]

Hi CptPicard,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse! []

The topic of telekinesis is one that is better suited to our Welcome to General Metaphysics forum so that is where you now see it. If you disagree please pm me and we'll discuss the matter.

Very best,

[kakkarot]

quote:Originally posted by CptPicard

Have you ever moved an object yourself?

yes, i have. as have others.

quote:and what kind of objects can be moved? *size and weight?*

anything that you are capable of moving. most people seem to get stuck at the pin wheel, while a few say they have been able to move larger objects such as chairs (goto psipog.com and check out some of their tk articles).

quote:I would assume your mind must be very disciplined, and would probably take many years to master?

the first few tries for me, though i had been using energy for a while before that so i was starting with some basic skills already.

quote:I find it fascinating but at the same time I'm very skeptical.

many people are skeptical, if not outright disbelievers. but just because you can't wrap your head around something doesn't mean it's impossible: after all, i know tons of people who can't wrap their head around calculus [|)].

quote:My only explanation is that its some kind of electromagnetic force or impulse.

But then how can the body produce such an energy?

actually, the body does generate an electromagnetic field. that doesn't mean that it's the electromagnetic field that's performing tk, but the body does produce electromagnetic energies.

quote:I'm just starting to get-into all this spiritual stuff, mainly because of family deaths and wanting to contact them...... But one thing then leads to another and equals *TK*

well, it's good to read and research then [|)]. there are many posts on older pages of this forum and (i think) the energy forums, so try looking through those [].

good luck with your search.

~kakkarot

[beavis]

Telekinesis is not electromagnetic because an electromagnetic field cant move things that arent affected by magnetism (like paper), and I can move paper as easy as metal.

[singularity]

TK is an easy thing to prove or disprove.  You can't evade the question with a knowing wink or shrug.  

You announce your intention to move object A via TK.  Object A moves.  No other explanation is discernable.  The procedure and witnesses are unimpeachable.  Then you have proof.  How hard is that?

I assume TK is fiction, otherwise we'd all have seen proof already.

[beavis]

singularity, I have proved to 5 people that I can do telekinesis. But there are not enough of us around to give live demonstrations to everybody, and disbelievers call videos fakes regardless of how real they look.

[singularity]

quote:Originally posted by beavis

singularity, I have proved to 5 people that I can do telekinesis. But there are not enough of us around to give live demonstrations to everybody, and disbelievers call videos fakes regardless of how real they look.

Well that's pretty damn cool.  How much do you charge?  I'm free this week.

[beavis]

I would try (but not guaranteed to succeed) to show you for free, but I dont think you want to drive 1500+ miles.

[singularity]

quote:Originally posted by beavis

I would try (but not guaranteed to succeed) to show you for free, but I dont think you want to drive 1500+ miles.

No, not without a guaranty.

[Nayru]

*raises hand* I have done Telekinesis, but quit doing it. I have succeed and moved objects, simple objects, I'm no Telekinetic, like pencils and the like.

A lot of skeptics say it's the wind. I moved an object against the wind in.

Such things are hard to be proven if you're not standing next to the person who's about to prove it to you. Besides, Psions do Psionics because they like it, not to prove it's real to others. If you want to find out the truth, then do some research. Start at www.psipog.net, that's the most reliable Psionic site around. Their board is down, but at www.veritasonline.net will be able to help you out with your questions. They also will have articles up soon, so it's worth to check it out.

The how.. Well, that's a nifty one. No-one reallys knows the 'how', only theories. One of them being what you said:

quote:My only explanation is that its some kind of electromagnetic force or impulse.

In which I disagree. The second one being that the mind sends out 'waves' so to speak, which is btw true (Telepathic Broadcast is based on that), and that moves the object. I disagree with that as well.
The how in any way is not important, or, that's what I think. Psipog got some scientific explanations on different aspects of Psionics, I'm sure you'll be interested in reading that.

Nothing can be 'mastered', one can always improve. How long it takes depends on the person. I moved my first object in perhaps 3 week (a pencil), while others can do that in one week or half a year. Heavy things are indeed harder to move than light things.

I can redirect you to a Telekinetic, who has been practising for years. His name is Not Important and he should be at Psipog. Since the boards are down, I suggest you try the chat.

Good luck on your quest for truth.

[volcomstone]

first off i just wanna say telekinesis or psychokinesis IS possible,

now that i said that you are free to believe whatever you want, it took me a good 3-7 days of attempting to spin a psi-wheel before i was able to learn it

maybe its just the "heat" from my hands, or perhaps is the infamous linden field that my father (still a skeptic) claims it is or maybe its just a random wind gust, caused by a drafty room

perhaps im deluding myself, perhaps im insane with mass hallucinations,

but when Ive shown my friends i didn't take long for them to learn how (proof of telekinesis helps learning)

CPT picard-- if you want to know the truth, you must first "trick" your mind into believing you moved it, even if it was just the wind, it doesn't take long at all to move a psiwheel, and im sure you'll get results within a week or so

plus if anyone wants to sponsor me (flight included) i'd be happy to show them first-hand proof of telekinesis  

please make all cheques payable too....

the only reason i like telekinesis is because i can break the laws of physics in my own bedroom!!

when i get good at it it'd be handy for early groggy mornings (when Tk seems to be strongest)

i could telekinetically, turn on the shower, lather up the soap, brush my teeth etc etc.. practically though, it'll be acouple of years before that happens

im just happy right now spinning my twenty-sum psi wheels at once, and causing bubbles to stop dead in the air, also making strips of paper "dance" is fun

anyhow happy TKing and don't get discouraged, just watch the x-files or read the x-men =)

[Adkha]

Can anyone explain me what a psy wheel is. And where I can get it or make it? I'm really interested in TK.
Thnk u

[Nagual]

In order to remove the wind problem... why not cover it with a transparent glass bowl...?  Would it still work under it?

[beavis]

I always use my psi wheel in a closed clear container. Its not any harder to move.

[CptPicard]

Hey Adkha,

Have you managed to succeed in moving your PSI wheel yet?
I have been alittle busy lately but I have just created my PSI wheel with some A4 Paper a dart and some blu tac... I think it'll do the trick []

beavis,
When trying to move a PSI Wheel, what should I be thinking about, do I need to hold my hands close to it... etc Should I do some energy excercies first or do some meditation to steal the mind?

[Fat_Turkey]

Um..I haven't read the replies so I don't know if anybody has "proven" TK yeet...

So anyway, I'll get on with my ramblings.

You can't even prove that you yourself are real. So therefore, you cannot prove that science is real, that dreams are real, that people are real. Then you can't prove that TK is real. Full stop.

On top of that, it's an unknown field that people have only just started looking at. The fact is that science doesn't know everything about "the laws of reality." The fact that reality itself could be a dream in someone's life means that such "laws" don't really exist, so you can bend them. Anyways, it's an unknown field. There are many, many good theories on how it can exist (and some tutorials on how to do it) on www.psipog.net. But please, I urge you, if you don't believe in this stuff, just have an open mind. Don't be like the other 5 billion people in this world who are so strongly against the supernatural that they would do anything in their power to make us look like crazies, when all we're trying to do is discover.

Peace
~FT

[Aphex-twin]

Dear cptpicard i can guarantee you one hundred percent tk is real.A word of advice dont spend days and weeks trying to find different sites about it and trying to find out peoples techniques,just go to psipog like many people have already told you read a few articles and than practice practice practice !!!!!  Tk isnt the easiest thing to learn but after you get it it stays with you for life and your skill only improves over the years.If you want some tips  i guess pm me but theres only so much another individual can tell you before you just have to bite the bullet and sit down and practice.
Go to this site http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/pendulum/
credit to beavis i learned about it from him, maybe it will help you.
Tk is very real and very cool and the experiment on that site is not bs.

[CptPicard]

Thx Aphex-twin, I'll let you know how I get on....

In the mean time, I have setup a dart in some blue tac and put some tin foil on top... there must be alot of wind in this room because the thing doesn't keep still?

Should I be using my hands.. i.e. putting them close to the source to let the energy flow out.. or should it be entirely from the mind?

[CptPicard]

Aphex-twin, I visited psipog, but I didn't see anything related to PSI Wheels.. they just had stuff on PSI Balls!

[Aphex-twin]

your hands are not neccesary, but they might help.With telekinesis distance means absolutely nothing you could move something half way across the world with it, i have never done that i have only started moving the psi wheel wheel and walked out of my house down to cvs and back and my friend as a witness said it never stoped moving.It stoped spining but it kept rocking back and fourth,and it was under glass so it wasnt wind.Here is a link to 1 of the many telekinesis articles on psipog http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=2

[beavis]

Aphex-twin credit to beavis i learned about it from him

[8D][8D][8D] Good, my posts on this website have not been wasted!! I know some rare and useful info about this reality and really want others to know it.[8D][8D][8D]

Anybody who has SPECIFIC questions about telekinesis, I like to answer them, but if your question is "how do I do it" just search my posts and AFTER YOU HAVE TRIED a few times, ask me questions. It doesnt matter if you're a newbie or not. If you try first, I want to answer your questions.

[Jon_88]

While Tk hasnt been proven . It has been reported very many cases of things moving unexplainable ,wich is the poltergeist phenomen.

While spirits may or may not be blaimed for such activity ,truth is scientifically no one has a clue , some suggests it is more likely to happen with an emotionally disturbed teenager in the house wich implies haywire TK .

My point is , this very much says that not all forces for moving objects has been discovered .Tk could use that force or something similar.

I myself have experienced things fallen over mysteriusly , one day things just didnt wanna stay on the shelves 4 times things that realy shouldnt/couldnt fall ,fell down. It hasnt happend since (as i noticed) .