Weird dream

[SmileySpirit14]

sounds like a mixture of greek mythology and the matrix.(take the red pill or the blue pill[]) why would you dream about zues? are you studying greek stuff?

[beavis]

I love the matrix movies, but no I havent even thought about greek things for a long time. Maybe I watched too much Hercules.

[shadowradier]

I was gettin down on the dirty D with somone i like in my deams it was HOTT!!!

[beavis]

Screwing rules!!! But how is it relevant to this thread?

[SmileySpirit14]

OMG, lol...shadowradier, we're not just posting our random dreams! we're trying to help beavis with HIS dream[] (but i also agree[])

[wisp]

beavis,
I have a little old fashion take on your dream.This is an important dream. An old man may be your guide or higher self (wise old man). Your given a choice between two(?). I personally don't believe there is limited choice.It sounds from the dream that the red portal still gave you majic, although you chose the blue. The colors can also represent hot and cold (opposites or contrast?).The cup from my own experience represents manifesting. You created it and your using it someway. The color orange is often connected with psychic ability and/or perceptions. You made a potion like in wizardry.Have you noticed anthing different lately which you may have produced? Greek God (Zeus) may be about the authority to, or the ability, or just empowerment to do so. The choice you are given may be a test. How do you feel about having to make choices?The high building is often the meaning of higher understanding, possibly mental origins since buildings are often symbolic of the physical body.

[beavis]

beavis,
I have a little old fashion take on your dream.This is an important dream.

It felt important. I really thought that if I went through the red portal, my way of thinking would be so much different that I would be unable to return to my body and it would die immediately. Thats the first time I've thought that.

An old man may be your guide or higher self (wise old man).

I dont know who he was but he seemed powerful. I think "guide" and "higher self" are part of my unconscious mind.

Your given a choice between two(?). I personally don't believe there is limited choice.

There can be 2 groups of similar choices in some situations. Some paths require more energy than I have. If I fall into a valley (on a physics graph of energy), there might not be any choice except to sit there.

It sounds from the dream that the red portal still gave you majic, although you chose the blue.

I'm not sure of the order (or if there was one) but I later went back and the red portal was weaker. I touched it but didnt go in. That was around the time I controlled the orange energy. I had felt like I was in a body but then I turned into energy spiraling around a point.

Have you noticed anthing different lately which you may have produced?

Produced, no. Things feel a little less real now. There were a few times since this dream when I was almost sure if I was looking at a physical chair but refused to believe the chair was where the laws of physics think it is, that my perception of the chair takes a different path through astral and I see the chair in a slightly different position, and that is as valid a reality as the other position. The chair really isnt sitting there at all. But then my energy runs down and it looks like a real chair again.

Also, if I dont use my "intent" to go directly to a goal, but instead sit silently while thinking about it, I eventually float through slightly parallel timelines until I get to it. The less I'm attached to any one of them, the more curved and longer path I take to it. Most times, there are energy configurations blocking the direct path.

The choice you are given may be a test. How do you feel about having to make choices?

Everything is a test and has different results for each answer.
I like choosing. Better than letting others do it for me.

[wisp]

beavis,
Okay, this is a tough one. I was a little thrown off by the two symbols.I've seen the stargate symbol before,it's a circle symbol. Now I'm thinking, you had already gotten there by way of the blue O. O is the shape of the symbol your talking about,right? A circle means cycle, continuous, and also means birth canal. Once your are before this(in your dream) being, you have another choice.Apparently you have been given an offer. I don't understand why the word death would be used, unless, it's what you would perceive as death? Why say this to you? Could it be that you have not delved into certain or all aspects of death, and this old man is giving you something to consider? With that aside, it leaves Earth or Magic. I wonder if your going too far? Are you doing something which may effect your physical structure? You already made your choice, you chose the Earth (plane). The sky scraper or tall building reaches great heighth. By touching on this RED O, you might have absorbed something, and brought it back with you? You mention being in the top floor of the tall building, not that you were standing on top of it, so maybe, a little bit of a safety factor? You are bound by the laws of the dimensions you choose? Death is something you should possibly learn more about(in a spiritual way?).

I've read, and also just recently, somewhere on this board, there is a time to think on grounding yourself. Maybe some balance with earth contact, unless...you have other ideas.

I believe there are times of choice when we are at a crossroad (earth rules,anyway).What is chosen at the time determines the future of one. This applies to death as well as journeys to death (in the physical sense).

I have had a wide variety of dream experiences. One morning I awoke but hadn't opened my eyes. A woman's voice said very clearly, "You don't have to wake up." As I lie there still half asleep, I thought this is it! I changed my mind, I opened my eyes and another day has begun for me. I felt that was a close one. []

I also believe I got mixed up in an energy problem once. It took a lot of will power and work to get myself back together physically. Be careful is all I know to say.

Could it be you should learn more about the process of death, then you may not have to choose between one or the other? Just an idea. What do you know about death? Half my spiritual journey through the years I have discovered involves the death process. It about endurance, understanding, realizations, health, and a whole lot of things. It's not about what is commonly seen as death. Death and life are interwoven, learn the journey of both.

quote:I dont know who he was but he seemed powerful. I think "guide" and "higher self" are part of my unconscious mind.

Have you ever wondered what the concept of superconsciousness means?

[kiauma]

I was in a room with an fat old man with white hair and beard called Zeus (greek king of the gods), not that I believe in that kind of thing. There were 2 portals in the room, 1 blue and 1 red. I came in through the blue one. The portals looked similar to the stargate on the tv show "stargate sg1". Zeus told me the blue portal leads back to earth and red leads to magic and death and that I was spiritually advanced enough that I might want to take the red one. I left through the blue.
I found myself in the top floor of a tall building. I didnt know I was dreaming but I told somebody this place feels like it has a much lower energy density than normal, which is almost the same. The difference was I thought it was real, which was probably true in some way. I was holding a large glass cup. I controlled some orange energy circling in the glass of the cup. Then I made it leave the cup and finally spread out far enough I couldnt see it. I was able to accelerate things in the room up to about 10 miles per hour by thinking about it and levitate other things.



Zeus could well represent meta-elemental power, as an NPC type presenter and facilitator of your choice.   Do you believe in "God"?  Your answer may well hold the key to why Zeus popped up in your dream.

I think key to this dream is the colors, though everything could have significance.  Do you visualize colors when you do energy work, red for the 1st chakra, blue for the 5th?  I ask because orange is the color of the 3rd chakra, midway between the red and the blue.

Alternativley, the red/blue pill reading could be meant, as a choice between alternative powers/perceptions/ways of being.

Given your other comments on your impressions after what you describe in your first post this could well be a warning that you stand on the cusp of a pivotal life choice.   In the Matrix, the red pill was the truth, in your dream it is described as some type of ascension.   Yet, the red chakra is the base physical chakra, and you describe the red portal as being a lower energy and things as feeling less real after that experience.

Usually a building in a dream signifies the conscious self.  That you were 'in the top floor of a tall building' is reflective of Zeus' assertion of your spiritual progress.  In this 'space' you find yourself in control of an orange energy in a glass cup, the ultimate expression of your power over it being spreading it out until you 'couldnt see it'.  This could mean that you are unconscious of the power of the orange energy, or your power over it in normal consciousness, as contrasted with retaining the knowledge of your telekinetic ability.  Therefore, the elements of this dream could be a combination of the matrix/energy body archtypal elements, in that you appear to be given a choice, that actually you are the mechanism of the choice, and that they are not entirely what they seem.

I agree much of this hinges on what you take 'magic and death' to mean, but I think you were wise to choose the blue portal.  To me, the dream hints ominously at the loss of normal consciousness through the red portal.

I advise spending some time grounding yourself.

[beavis]

wisp: beavis,
Okay, this is a tough one. I was a little thrown off by the two symbols.I've seen the stargate symbol before,it's a circle symbol. Now I'm thinking, you had already gotten there by way of the blue O. O is the shape of the symbol your talking about,right?

I wouldnt read too much into the shape or color of that symbol because its color, shape, and function were almost the same as the stargate on the tv show. The red's shape was probably just symmetry, but where it led to is the most interesting part of the dream.

I don't understand why the word death would be used, unless, it's what you would perceive as death? Why say this to you? Could it be that you have not delved into certain or all aspects of death,

It was communicated very clearly to me that the red portal would result in death of my physical body. I dont know why it was there, but thats what it was, or what somebody wanted me to think.

With that aside, it leaves Earth or Magic.

If it werent for the death, I would definitely take all the magic it had to offer. Magic is controlling things with my mind.

You mention being in the top floor of the tall building, not that you were standing on top of it, so maybe, a little bit of a safety factor? You are bound by the laws of the dimensions you choose?

I want to be here, but I hate being bound by those laws. I understand some about how the laws can be changed, but dont have nearly enough energy to do it except sometimes a little telekinesis etc.

Death is something you should possibly learn more about(in a spiritual way?).

I think I know some of what happens after death, but it would be very hard to describe in words. The closest word to it is dreaming. I dont think I could get any more info on it from people because they dont remember it, and their religious texts are very distorted. The best information I've found about it is on this website.

I've read, and also just recently, somewhere on this board, there is a time to think on grounding yourself. Maybe some balance with earth contact, unless...you have other ideas.

Sounds boring.

I also believe I got mixed up in an energy problem once. It took a lot of will power and work to get myself back together physically. Be careful is all I know to say.

I've always found myself in control of any "problems" related to energy (that I know about), except the problem of not having enough. But its likely that for all of us there are problems we're so ignorant about that we dont even know they're there. There are much more powerful forces out there than us.

Have you ever wondered what the concept of superconsciousness means?

I think it means to be connected to a set of energies that are more intelligent or know more things than your normal consciousness. I've done that a few times, but because I'm in my normal consciousness now, I cant describe them.


kiauma: Zeus could well represent meta-elemental power, as an NPC type presenter and facilitator of your choice. Do you believe in "God"? Your answer may well hold the key to why Zeus popped up in your dream.

I know there is some nonphysicsl system of organizing information out there, but because of the things people say about "god", I will not call it "god".

I think key to this dream is the colors, though everything could have significance. Do you visualize colors when you do energy work, red for the 1st chakra, blue for the 5th? I ask because orange is the color of the 3rd chakra, midway between the red and the blue.

I dont usually think about colors with energy, and I have only seen auras a few times. But I know the colors are opposite what they should be. Blue should be magic, and red earth. The only explanation I can think of is that I watch a lot of "stargate sg1" and their stargate has a blue portal.

Alternativley, the red/blue pill reading could be meant, as a choice between alternative powers/perceptions/ways of being.

I think it is.

In the Matrix, the red pill was the truth, in your dream it is described as some type of ascension. Yet, the red chakra is the base physical chakra, and you describe the red portal as being a lower energy and things as feeling less real after that experience.

Great movie!! Weird isnt it, that they are reversed. The orange energy was caused by touching the red portal, so I cant say "less real" was caused by going through the blue portal. Maybe I knew the portals were opposite, and I mistakenly thought the one I came through was blue, so I saw the other one as red. Or maybe something is trying to confuse me.

Usually a building in a dream signifies the conscious self. That you were 'in the top floor of a tall building' is reflective of Zeus' assertion of your spiritual progress. In this 'space' you find yourself in control of an orange energy in a glass cup, the ultimate expression of your power over it being spreading it out until you 'couldnt see it'.

I did feel powerful then. Everything I intended to happen did happen there.

This could mean that you are unconscious of the power of the orange energy, or your power over it in normal consciousness, as contrasted with retaining the knowledge of your telekinetic ability.

I can feel that I have a lot more power than I am consciously aware of. I know its counterproductive, but I get extremely mad when I feel my awareness and power increasing but then fall to normal levels. It takes practice! But there is only so much a human can learn from practice in a finite time. Its not enough. I get angry that my progress is too slow. I set goals that I know are impossible. Thats just how I am. Sometimes I reach them. Example: the telekinesis video, but I didnt know if telekinesis was possible when I started and thought it was illogical.

I agree much of this hinges on what you take 'magic and death' to mean, but I think you were wise to choose the blue portal. To me, the dream hints ominously at the loss of normal consciousness through the red portal.

It was more than a hint. I'd like to go through the red portal and come back later, but that wasnt allowed.

I advise spending some time grounding yourself.

Again, sounds boring.

[kiauma]

I know there is some nonphysicsl system of organizing information out there, but because of the things people say about "god", I will not call it "god".

Doesn't RB seperate 3 levels of existance: Physical, metaphysical, causal, or something like that?  The causal level I call God, but because it is unknowable at the physical level, I am fond of saying 'Mystery is my God'.  As far as a big guy with a beard, just an aspect for our own convenience of the causal level - which I think is why you saw Zeus.  You saw a Godlike figure, indicating the level of choice presented, but not the Davidian God, for reasons of your beliefs.

Blue should be magic, and red earth.

As you believe...  Perhaps the dream is highlighting some dangerous assumptions on your part?  After all, the choice is death...

And yes, death could be a rebirth, or a drastic change - or it could be madness.  I mean real, raving, drooling madness.  That is what I was referring to at the 'loss of normal consciousness'.

It is your dream, and you have to follow your heart and your intuition on this.  However, it sounds to me like a warning that you are playing with fire.  

Honestly, if I were you, I would write Robert Bruce and ask his thoughts.    []

[beavis]

Kiamu, do you mean separate "levels of existance" with clearly defined boundaries? I've never seen boundaries between them. Recently, they look more like 1 continuous system from physical to as far away as I've been.

Last night, while awake, I think my physical body went farther into real-time-zone than it had in almost a year. Me and some energy were feeling each other. Everything I looked at appeared to slide around as if I were doing telekinesis to it. Big things like couches appeared to slide 6 inches at a time in just 1 second. They were continuously moving. But when I looked at anything relative to other things I thought were not moving, they returned to their original position as if they hadnt moved at all. I am not fooled by that. I know they moved in some way because I could feel them moving like I do with normal telekinesis.

I was thinking things like: if I define this couch to be over there instead of where it is now in my mind, nobody will notice and it might stay. I didnt need to move the couch in this place. I attracted myself to a place where it was already moved.

Parallel timelines and locations (parts of a parallel universe) are CONTINUOUS in some directions from this time and location. You dont jump from one to the other. You can be between. The set of these parallels make the real time zone and farther away astral.

I think I pulled my physical body into some of them but because of my energy connections to this one, it was pulled back when it looked at things it knew were in this one.

I can think of nothing I'd rather do than play with magic. Warning or not, I will continue. If I stopped, I would be wasting my time.

Perhaps the dream is highlighting some dangerous assumptions on your part?
What do you think those are?

[kiauma]

I don't know if I have told you my story or not, of how some years ago I went through a phase of spiritual awakening, involving visions, OBE, and other psychic phenomena.  This phase lasted only several months, after which I terminated the experiences by choice.  The reason why is simple; I thought I was losing my mind.   The experiences began to be stronger and stronger, and to be triggered easier and easier, to the point that every time I closed my eyes I could feel myself sink into the vibrational state.  Random psychic impressions plagued my night, and began to creep into my day, leaving me confused of what was 'real' and what wasn't.  

I never doubted that what I was experiencing was 'real' in a metaphysical context, but it was my inability to control my own perceptions and function in a normal capacity that began to make me fearful.  I decided it was best to back down for a while, establish a firmer grounding, and explore it at a later time (which is now, BTW).

Of course you should not stop.  Even backing away as I did was to build a firmer base with which to explore 'out there' without losing myself.  It is not 'stopping', it is not wasting your time.   Reading Robert Bruce's writings from this website, I see he has also done this, and for the same reasons.   After all, what is the goal, the prize of all this 'magic'?   To me, it is the largest expression, including conscious expansion (which by definition must include our personal envelopes, lest we unwittingly be dissipated), of ourselves, which can only be done by integrating our physical, metaphysical, and causal aspects.  Personally, I feel losing your physical aspect would severely hamper your efforts at this integration.  It is your foothold in the physical realm that is the basis for all your investigations.  It must be safeguarded to guarentee that you will be able to move forward.

I've never seen boundaries between them.

I myself believe the boundaries are only perceptual.  This does not mean that they don't exist, merely that that is their easiest definition for me.  Certainly without these 'boundaries', how would you know you were any more conscious than the next man?

You can be between.

Yes, and it is advantageous just as long as you know you are inbetween and can distinguish which is which while in this state.  I know in my own case when these boundaries began to break down, I had little reference with which to navigate the alternate levels.  At times I was overwhelmed with psychic impressions, and I began to 'get lost' inbetween.

Perhaps my reading on your dream says more about me than about your dream.  Still, I see many paralells with the symbology of your dream, my experiences, and the experiences of Robert Bruce while he was exploring 'the edge'.  I think we can all agree you are certainly on the edge, but the very definition of 'edge' implies a precariously narrow envelope which it is easy to slip out of, quite possibly to your extreme peril, especially if you are making premature assumptions of your readiness and current abilites.

Again, I advise contacting Robert Bruce for his thoughts.  In any case, I don't see you have anything to lose by this.

[beavis]

The experiences began to be stronger and stronger, and to be triggered easier and easier, to the point that every time I closed my eyes I could feel myself sink into the vibrational state. Random psychic impressions plagued my night, and began to creep into my day, leaving me confused of what was 'real' and what wasn't.

How did you get so lucky?

what is the goal, the prize of all this 'magic'?

To control my experience (instead of letting others control it) and create things.

Certainly without these 'boundaries', how would you know you were any more conscious than the next man?

Its interesting to compare myself to others, but not important.

You can be between.

Yes, and it is advantageous just as long as you know you are inbetween and can distinguish which is which while in this state. I know in my own case when these boundaries began to break down, I had little reference with which to navigate the alternate levels. At times I was overwhelmed with psychic impressions, and I began to 'get lost' inbetween.

I am not interested in becoming grounded in 1 timeline or an other. I want to switch between them depending on what I want to do at the time. You think I should pick 1 and stick with it, but for each new timeline I have access to, the chance increases that the one I'll be in at any one time is better than the one I started in.

I only go to "the edge" sometimes. Usually I dont have enough energy.

btw I emailed Robert Bruce

[beavis]

I was in a room with an fat old man with white hair and beard called Zeus (greek king of the gods), not that I believe in that kind of thing. There were 2 portals in the room, 1 blue and 1 red. I came in through the blue one. The portals looked similar to the stargate on the tv show "stargate sg1". Zeus told me the blue portal leads back to earth and red leads to magic and death and that I was spiritually advanced enough that I might want to take the red one. I left through the blue.
   I found myself in the top floor of a tall building. I didnt know I was dreaming but I told somebody this place feels like it has a much lower energy density than normal, which is almost the same. The difference was I thought it was real, which was probably true in some way. I was holding a large glass cup. I controlled some orange energy circling in the glass of the cup. Then I made it leave the cup and finally spread out far enough I couldnt see it. I was able to accelerate things in the room up to about 10 miles per hour by thinking about it and levitate other things.