Are you a math equation?

[volcomstone]

ever notice how the infinite symbol looks alot like eye's?

to be more exact alien grey eyes?!?!?

I see infinite in everything,  

"he see's angel's in the architecture, swimming in infinite he cries , hey hallejulah, if you be my body gurad , ill be your long last pal"- paul simon "you can call me al"

[beavis]

It looks more like glasses.

I dont mean infinite like "god is infinite bow down". I mean it like in calculus.

[FreeFaller]

WOW thats was soooo confusing for me but i sort of understand, infinity people its an 8 on its side... but thinking does 8 have anything to do in any equations to get infinity? well no on e knows tell me if there is

[beavis]

If you wanted to you could use an 8.
8/0 = infinity

The equation I'm talking about would be horribly complex. The "gravity" we observe acts on particles proportional to 1 / "distance" squared between them. Since they change positions, parts of the equation would be moving around a lot, but thats just how I would make it because I'm a stupid human. That doesnt prove there isnt a stable equation that describes the state of every particle that exists at any time.

If this universe is an equation, it appears to be a continuous one because of all the sine waves in the quantum events, like an infinite summation.

Randomness could be put in it and see what it evolves into (look ahead in the time variable) in an infinite number of interacting "parallel universes".

[beavis]

I thought about it more, and think this kind of equation is unlikely to exist. Maybe it could, but it would be so complex that to create it would take much more work than to run a physics simulation to find everything's positions.

I dont know what kind of computations can be done in the system this universe exists in. Maybe it can run differential equations at all points simultaneously. It doesnt have to be like systems we have made because they are only something in the bigger system.

I dont want to limit my thinking to sequential math computations, even though physics seems to be like that. I'd like to know what things the system does efficiently. Maybe I could rewrite the rules it uses. That could be what we do in astral.

Any ideas on how the system that the universe exists in works? Is it the matrix? Is it an infinite permutation of slightly different universes interacting with each other? Does it have a limit to how much information it can process? How can I use it?

[volcomstone]

I always take a good long look at a fractal. then I'll throw some stones into a pond and watch the ripples. then I think, can the interference patterns created by two, three, four..... rocks create objects in another dimension?

are seemingly chaotic nature systms organized by mathematical equations of higer dimensions? but there has to be a grounding point, at every interface there is a concentration greater than farther away from the interface line

take primes for example , when they're closer to zero there are more

1,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,27,29,--- almost have up to thirty, but the farther away you get the less their are
most life on the earth is found within 500 meters of the earths surface, and most of that around shorelines or at the surface of the ocean

everything can be written in mathm its a language, its a very defined language.

to say that we are a mathematical equation is like saying Im a etching of graphite on a peice of comressed, bleached, and then dyed, cellulose fiber sheet

[Squeek]

Here's a fun universe equation.

Scientifically speaking, the universe is infinite.

Also scientifically speaking, there is a finite number of the amount of beings that can live on each habitable world in the universe.

Any infinite number / any finite number = a fraction so small, rounding must go straight to ZERO.  The average population of the universe is thusly zero.

Therefore, nobody exists.

~Squeek

PS - to above post.  2 is prime, 27 is not. [|)]

[need]

I'm no mathematician , but did you know that in that maths , that there isn't just infinity but also infinity squared, I think we are an equation but my math is nowhere near to proving that...at all...i just have basic maths abilities,also the equation would be some kind of interlinking equations to make up one equation. Different parts do differant things in connection to other things. What ever equation it is it would be very complex indeed

[ImmuredSoul]

8 (on it's side) has a strange way of putting the symbol. For paths always seem to cross in the middle.

1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144. . . add the first two numbers together, then add the second number to the product; repeat . . .

Negatively? 1-1=0, 0-1=-2, -2-1=-3, . . . -3,-5,-8,-13 . . .

Square? 1^2=1, 2^2=4 . . . 9,25,64,169 . . .

therefor, -1-2=1, -2-3=1 . . . 1,1,1,1,1,1,1 . . .

a-A=b, A-b=B, b-B=C

Now, we'll start with the equation . . . perhaps . . .

A[xX(0-0)-xX(0-0)] - a[xX(0-0)-xX(0-0)]
___________________________________________
                 8(infinty, that is to say

. . .

~p/X^(6A-2a) =
Z/8 (yes, infinity again)
_____________________________________________________________
8(actualy eight)z^{A[xX(0-0)-xX(0-0)] - a[xX(0-0)-xX(0-0)]/8(infinity again)

. . .

Now, let's say that "A" is only a curve in the universe, having been placed there accidentally through a tear in the astral plane, which has been leaking into this universe for years (black hole, perhaps, or just something else). xX represents the amount of beings in the worlds, the "x" being the living, the "X" being the dead. Infinity doesn't actually represent infinite, but rather a motion that is in itself, turning about, leaking itself into itself, leaking itself outside of itself, which is ultimately coming back into itself through "a" (which happens to be nothing more than the "A", only the "a" is at a different points; "A" sucks things up, "a" spits things out!)
Sorry if that's confusing, but you've just gotta stick with it [xx(]
"Z" is the crossover between the meeting of universes (which, in reality, it nothing more than this universe being leaked into itself over and over again), therefore giving us the 1,2,3,5,8,13,etc. . . .
And "p", you may ask? "p" happens to be these numbers in a layout that can't be converted into a form of writing that this computer will hold! Stupid computer! [!] Anyway . . . there's your carppy equation.

[Moonburn33]

and here i thought that the fibonacci sequence was about the universe being efficient... never mind about all that entropy stuff you learned in physics, i guess....

[ImmuredSoul]

recyclable efficiency [|)]

[weetabix]

quote:Originally posted by Squeek



Any infinite number / any finite number = a fraction so small, rounding must go straight to ZERO.  The average population of the universe is thusly zero.

Therefore, nobody exists.

A little distorsion into this topic...

In a metaphysic perspective (ref. : Frank Hatem), we can obtain this equation :

1 = infinity = zero

Indeed, 1 mean the whole... it contains all 'cause there is nothing else... there is only 1. (1 is also the phylosophic "I am")  We can add that 1 is infinite because if not, it doesn't contains all.  Moreover, the infinity of the whole suppose that it is not something, that it's nothing...  (Being something suppose something else, but a multitude of 1 is opposed to the concept of the whole) So the infinity is null.  It's what we call nothingness.

But why nothingness has the apparence of being ?

Think about it !

-Weeta

[wantsumrice]

Mathematically speaking, if you get an infinite answer, you are WRONG.  The answer infinite sucks, why?  Because math gives definition, and what does infinite do to it, screw it all over.  

~ivan

[Moonburn33]

cesaro summability.


look it up.

[need]

Beavis, just discovered something, there is one equation that is almost everywhere, it is called the golden ratio, something about it being 1 to 1.618.

[Moonburn33]

it relates to the fibonacci sequence- it's the most efficient way to lay out reality.  which is not surprising, considering that the universe has to contend with things like entropy.. and the fact that the evolution of matter is a closed system of energy

[CaCoDeMoN]

Maybe math that I am studying in Poland is different from this in U.S., but I've always tought that any number cannot be divided by zero...

[ImmuredSoul]

it can't without equaling 0.

[Moonburn33]

it is referred to as being undefined.

[beavis]

I'm sorry if I ignored something important, but I'm drunk. The goldend ratio... its the average of 1 and square root of 5... so what? I see nothing better about it than if it had been square root of 4 or 6.

[beavis]

The little particles that make the universe, spirits, and whatever else exists. I think they might be the same kind of thing.

What we call them doesnt matter. What exists is defined by them and their connections. Its all math. There doesnt have to be anything more real than the equations.

Dont tell me there arent equations. We have very good approximations to some parts of them written down. But it needs to be a single equation for this to work, and there can be no error in it.

Think of the power you would have if you could write those equations. They could have nondeterministic infinite branching (like quantum physics says) and all you would need to make it real is a deterministic function to describe the infinite equation, something that gives a definite answer for any point in it.

If I could figure out how to do that, I could create a universe bigger than this one in a little text file. I could only look at a small part of it at a time, but the rest would appear to exist from the part I looked at. How many parts of this one are you looking at now?

All the people of all history could work their whole lives summing small rectangles to approxmimate the area under the curve y=x^2 from x=0 to x=3.2341, and they'd never get the exact answer but if I use calculus, the answer is immediately 6.4682.

Some kinds of equations have been proven to be impossible to exist. Maybe I'm crazy, but from the amount of information processing this theory would do, if there is even a 1/squareRoot(infinity) chance it is possible to exist, there is only 1 chance in infinity we are not in it now. But I dont really know all the variables.

I dont think I'll ever think about infinity the same way. That thought screwed my sense of reality up so much.