Unusual experiances/no info

[kakkarot]

sounds like either could have been an attack, but also that each could have been a random occurance that had negative effects on you. the time period between them makes it seem less likely that they were attacks, unless each was an isolated one-time attack.

if either were an attack, the question would be "why did the person/being attack you?" and we might never know the answer to that.

i hope it doesn't happen again, though []. be well

~kakkarot

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hello K,
In reply to your answer, I have been deep into metaphysical study along with my regular work week.  I have studied all of the so-called main religions to understand if there is any connection that ties them together.  I have read/studied Edgar Cayce, Robert Bruce, Dion Fortune, Sylvia Brown, John Edwards, Barbara Marciniak, the "Seth" Material, Dolores Cannon, "A Course in Miracles", etc. plus Health/Herbs, interest in Dowsing & pendulum(not practioner, have studied works by Dr. Bruce Goldberg(regressive therapy) & am a student of Astrology, & for the last Year & half, actively involved with the Cassiopaea site.  Although I have been Divorced 17 years, & My Son's are in College, I can't really say I have much of a Social Life...other than my studies...I am an avid reader. I'm not around alot of people & am not aware of upsetting anyone directly to warrent an attack of any kind.  I have had "unusual" happenings, most of my life...but have offen found a logical explaination or reason for. These 2 defile an explaination & I will continue to search, for the last one mention was physically, a death situation.  A "knowing" of physical death!  I have daily used prayers/white light, etc. for protection.  My interest in psychic attack, etc. & after reading books by Robert Bruce & Dion Fortune, do not fully describe why I am singled out in these experiances. They are not all negative. I had an experiance several years ago, while driving with my 2 Son's with me. The car was suddenly engulfed in greenish/blue fog that forced me to guide the car to the saftey off the side of the road. Moments later, the colored fog lifted & we returned to the road. Down the road was a 3 car pile-up.  Acknowledgement of "Divine Intervention" was addressed in a heart-felt prayer of "Thanks!"

[pod3]

Well, the meaning is that if you felt violated, you were violated.

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Angelburst29 here:  Is it possible that I might be in the wrong Forum to get an answer to my above question?

[Anonymous]

Angelburst, I have taken the complete opposite path to study the metaphysical, and I started studying because of my first love, who lives so far away from me. I wanted to learn to project so that I could visit her. However, we are no longer together. Nevertheless, I find the field very interesting and important, so I continue to study.

I was once a Roman Catholic, but I stopped associating with the church because I felt that no true spirituality could come from any organized religion. However, there are some that seem to get something out of it. I am simply not one of those people. From my own experiences, I have been able to talk to spirits, if they want to engage in conversation. Most of the ideas exchanged are not actually words, but concepts. Some are complete a** holes, and others are extremely kind and the types you'd want to have in your life. I find the evil ones are generally cowards. The nature of evil is to consume itself, and to sustain itself it also tries to consume good. Good can sustain itself without needing to consume everything else.

As far as the nature of your spirit, I think it was most likely evil. Good spirits don't do that.

[MAGUS89]

I agree, I think its some sort of Neg(s). Maybe just in case you should do some sort of banishment or get rid of it.... just in case.

Hope this doesn't happen again

Blessings

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Angelburst29 here:  Thank-You for the replies!
To runlola & MAGUS89, Some time back, I had silently considered the possibility of "abductions" in explaining "missing time episodes." Read extensively on the subject...but could not logically find any evidence that would point in that direction...although I still do not rule out the possibility.  

To EnderWiggin,  I find Your message interesting!  I was born into a Roman Catholic Family.  My interest in "Spirituality" from an early age was mis-interperted by my family as being of "Religious" intent. After graduating High School, I was enrolled into the "Benedictine Order" of "Missionary Servitude." When I turned 21 yrs. old & just before taking my final vows, I went through the "Tribunial" process to come out... and reliquished my ties with the Catholic Church. The biggest lesson I learned from this experiance was that there was a big differance between Spirituality/God-Consciousness and the Church with it's interperation of Doctrine for material gain! Manipulation came in all forms of greed.  I went on to self-study the other so-called Religions to see if they minic the same self imposed Doctrines. My Metaphysical interest stemmed from the knowledge gained. I often wondered if I might have stumbled onto a "truth" of some type that would single Me out for these "Attacks?" Sort of a warning, to de-tour me from the path of awareness with the intent of getting to the "Truth!"  Problem with all of this and directly after the last "attack" that left me lying on the floor for 14 hrs...was a sudden change in physical health.  Constantely tired, always some type of infection in the body( 11 teeth removed at one time due to infection) blocked colon, gallbladder removal, heal spirs & unable to walk, sever muscle aches in the middle of the night(charlie horses)a cut turned into a case of gangarene in less than 24 hrs. that needed surgical removal & a 9 day stay in the Hospital.  Just recently, major blood work came back with a diagnosis of Chronic Fatigue & Fibermyalogia.  All this break down of body...yet I have, for years, ate a healthy modified diet with little meat & fresh everything along with vitamin supplementation.  Rare do I indulge in "fast food or junk"  Poor health doesn't justify careful planning of diet? Take this into consideration with the 2 unexplained "experiances" & I have to logically consider outside interferance of some type.  I need to identify these 2 experiances to get at the root of my ill-health!  I am seriously asking for help!  Angelburst29

[Anonymous]

My first experiences with the metaphysical occurred with my instructor of Northern Shaolin Eagle Claw kung fu. Having the ability to channel his qi energy, he has used it many times to heal me. I was at first skeptical of the possibility of such a thing, but he proved himself. I could literally feel the energy, which gave the sensations of a magnet pulling on my blood. Today I am capable of using qi energy to heal people of headaches. I feel qi in the form of heat. It is an amazing energy. Sometimes I am able to see it in the air as well as around objects, people, and living things. It appears as a yellowish shimmer. I have used it in astral combat and it is extremely effective against greys, Hooded Ones, and many other kinds of spirits. I find that when it is shaped into a sword or a staff it is even more effective. I can send the energy long distance as well. I have had four years of training and I highly recommend either kung fu or qi gong to anyone. Kung fu will train your body and get you in shape, as well as teach you qi gong.

If you would like help, Angelburst, I will be glad to assist you. I can send you energy and teach those spirits a lesson they'll never forget. I am an astral warrior and not too long ago I fought a very ancient, evil, and powerful ghoul. Ghouls suck life energy from others to keep themselves alive. They often work through human psychic vampires, black magicians, etc.

For now, I recommend wearing something made of pure iron. No entity can withstand iron because it breaks up their etheric energy, which will mess with the coherence of their being. Once you destroy this coherence, you either knock them out of the astral or destroy them.

I also recommend holy water, and you should burn sage. I will do energy work on you if you wish. Perhaps we can talk online in real-time if you are willing to use an instant-messeging program.

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, the other thing I suggest is drawing pentagrams on your body to ward off evil spirits. Perhaps a banishing ritual is in order, as well as a prayer to St. Michael. St. michael will need your explicit permission to help you, so make sure when you pray to him you specifically give him permission to help you get rid of these problems and the entities causing them.

[G3MM4]

Forgive me if this sounds like a stupid question, but what does the pentagram you speak of look like? And where abouts on your body should you draw it, and how many of them should you draw?

[Kristen]

Hi Angleburst,

I have experienced things very similar to what you're describing - movement up and down, side-to-side, pressure at various points on my body and have experienced incredible pain in my womb - once bad enough to make me scream and most often just extremely painful - that went on for over 6 months, started around the same time each month - about the 11th, and lasted for about a week. I went to the doctor and I have small fibroids... but that sort of pain I experienced is not normal for fibroids.  It was overwhelming - like labor without medication, and the pain stopped abruptly at the entrance to the emergency room door like it never happened.  Maybe it was a warning for me to go to the doctor, maybe not.  The movement and pressure have been continuous for several years.  There's something with me at all times. I've gotten used to the movement and pressure, and actually, there is a pattern and meaning to it relating to oncoming situations that can challenge my emotional balance.

I don't know exactly what it is or why its happening - but it did come on when I began to seriously pursue a spiritual path and began energy work.  I think that sometimes simple intellectual pursuit alone can trigger other levels of awareness and attention, depending on a person's sensitivity.  Add emotional intensity to that and what is experienced may likely increase.  The physical sensation of up and down movement and paralysis could very well be a number of things and I can only guess.  It sounds like the energy movement experienced during energy work or the circulation of light.  I can only guess about your blackout as well - if you practice hermetic or kabbalistic rites, you might want to consider finding a valid mystery school for mentoring.  You have quite a library - have you read Fortune's Psychic Self Denfense?  

Kristen

[Sentential]

[xx(]YIKES!... that sounds alot like when I was possessed. The pain came when I excorsised myself. I would do a quick run-thru of what happened over those 14hrs. Also I would start to look for negs in your house, when you find them eliminate them or forbid them from ever getting near you

[bloodsword]

Angelburst29,

I am going to perform a recon on you starting tonight. If I find anything, I will attempt to take appropriate action.

Kristen,

The way you describe it, it could be a health issue. Has your doctor checks you out for something like PMDD?

[bloodsword]

You are surrounded by shields. I did not see anyone attacking you.

They may be leaving you alone now. If there is not an ongoing attack, that is good.

From what you wrote, you sound stressed out. Maybe reducing stress is something you could do. Sometimes you have to make compromises in your life.

Be safe and well.

[need]

Hi Angelburst,

I think what could of happened is that your exploration has threatened negatives in your life that don't want to let you go or to be free. Take your health interest to ahigher level, use things which make you feel well and bring your health to a higher level.Wear crosses and put crosses around your house , especially your bed room and yourself if so inclined.Crosses at head and foot of the bed and at the sides.And spray everything with holy water and drink lots of holy water everyday, and take an interest in church. Use Olive and Hornbeam of the Bach Flower essences for energy and crab apple for cleansing, and scleranthus for balance and Walnut and Mustard.Ignore unloving behaviour from all other persons and always enforce the good, be in good cheer, don't be deceived, use your common sense, have humour around you and never let any person entice you from your money for any reason or draw you down a wrong track.View everything with an eye to engage the good but to not allow negative developments in your life from any word or action from people or anything. Use your common sense.See the good only and always follow it while always reducing all nagativity from any source. Tell who and what is good for you or not good for you. Because they smile doesn't mean they're good.


Wishing you the very best

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hello Bloodsword & Need,
Forgive my delay in responding.  I have been without a computer since lighting struck close to our home & followed the cable in.  Lost 3 TV's also.  Unplugged everything but forgot the cable.  Costly lesson!

I appreciate your responses.  In my first post, I related 2 unusual experiances along with a long list of Health problems, that have gotten progressively more involved with time.  Seems I overcome one health matter/illiness, only to find myself affected by something more serious, shortly there after.

Since my early teens, now 51, have been very health conscious.  To a degree, if God didn't make it, I don't eat it!  I was brought up on a dairy farm where beef was plentiful, yet I rarely eat it.  Sometimes, small amounts of chicken, turkey or fish. Have always preferred fresh veggies & fruits than the can stuff. Plus I take vitamin supplements. I am well educated in nutritian & supplements.  Yet, my health doesn't reflect conscious effort.  At the present moment, I'm dealing with Chronic Fatigue Syndrom/Fibermyalgia.  My energy is zapped. Fibermyalgia is a condition that effects movement of the muscles. It also involves painful muscle spasms including charlie horses in the calves of the legs.  For over 3 yrs. The only way I can sleep is on my back & the way I lay down is the same position I wake up in. The scarey part of the condition is suffering...sleep paralysis...unable to move when I first wake up.  Mentally I want to get up, physically, the body won't respond.  I have to try to move a finger to break the spell. If there was ever an emergency, I would be able to hear what is going on, I just wouldn't be able to respond quickly. In this case, it could be life-threating!

I have lived most of my life pursuing Spiritual matters.  At one point in my life, I was a Dominican Nun. I stepped back from that position when I reconized the differance between religion & spirit. My search for knowledge has cost me my health, for the deeper I pursue this quest, unexplained happenings abound.  I have never had an interest or involvement with cults or witchcraft.  I perfer written material on Spiritual matter & self developement/improvement. Yet, there have been times in my life that I sense that there is an external force over shadowing me.  It feels like heavy air, confining & negative.  It creates chaos!  There is always a "material loss" when this feeling is present.  I have had an engine blow up in a fairly new car, lost a 22 room Victorian Home to a fire after 14 months of completed renovation, was pink-slipped from a decent job at the time I was scheduled for advancement...with this noticiable dark heavy feeling surrounding me!  Add health problems along with stress. I have taken stress management.  I have comtemplated for hours, as to the nature of these occurances. At one point, had gotten involved with a therapist to evaluate my mental status & to see if I was, unconsciously, setting myself up for these occurances & situations. Bottom line, there is something external, interfering with my "free will" "my health" "my Spiritual quest" & everything on a material level.  That "something" is dark & negative!   Marianne

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hello Group, I have been reading & searching this forum with all it's related topics.  Some how I am getting the impression that I have been dealing not with neg interferance but possibably...an exchange of energy.  Question is "What kind of energy?"  What would start at top of the head, flow downward & out the feet, then do a reverse & out the top of my head?  The other experiance with the punch in the stomach & being out for 14 hrs. was in the Solar Plexis area.  Being Spiritually oriented...are these signs of some type?  Are these signs of DNA changes?

[Rob]

Hi Marianne!
Sorry to hear about your problems, my heart goes out to you.
It doesn't sound like a simple energy exchange - there is definately an active component to whats going on. Ie someone or something is doing whatever it is they are doing! The sudden paralysis while waking, well thats so weird! What time of day did it happen? Did you notice any immediate physical changes after it occured? - moles and stuff RB talks about. Also, do you have any indication that there is a pre-existing neg attachment - such as night terrors when you were younger, etc?
A lot of this just doesn't make sense to me. If it was a sort of neg attack the neg would logically wait until you were at your most vulterable before attacking - ie pre-sleep state when you are in a heavy trance and your defenses are most down. The sleep paralysis you wake up into is likely different and caused simply by your astral body being elsewhere - thats assuming the paralysis is not accompanied by an immediate feeling of dread, extreme fear?
What was your ex-husband like, would be bear any malaice towards you? I dont know how easy or even possible it would be for a person to grab you like that in paralysis, but maybe...? The incidents where things go wrong do however suggest that someone might be out to get you, does kinda bear the hallmarks of human involvement. And the fact that your body has been having difficulties after the other incident does suggest further some sort of definate attempt to break you down...
Well, you know probably that many of the most spiritual people come under massive attack from dark forces - so maybe your light is attracting flies!
Things I might suggest you do - try drawing on most of the protective symbols outlined in PPSD (I dont tend to bother with the pentegram on the forehead for obvious reasons [] but the rest are good). If this has any effect upon you OR your sons or ex then there is likely neg influence. See what happens, be observant inwards and outwards etc (lol goes without saying eh?[]).
Have you heard of ORMUS? You might want to look into it - I'm sure you can manage to do the research yourself but www.subtleenergies.com is the best starting point - might help perk up your body a bit! Try some divination to see if your subconscious mind can come up with any more answers - also reverse speech analysis on yourself will almost certainly throw up some useful data (RS is valid and very good, I highly recommend looking into it if you have not already heard of it). But I cant seem to get any reversals when I am just talking into a mike, it seems they only happen when you are actually in conversation with someone. Got any friends who're game?!!?? Stretch any conversations out, the more speech you have to work with the more chances that you'll find something. Hmm what else.....not sure really. It all kinda centers on finding the cause of your problems, doesn't it? You might want to try msging Nita, she may be able to help.
One other q - how much active work do you do - like are you practiced in magic, do you meditate regularly, etc??
all the best....
Rob

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hello Rob, I appreciate the reply & most definitely will check out the suggestions!
I have come across material on "reverse speech" recently & will look into it further.  As far as magic, in any of it's related forms, have never practiced.  Something within always tells me "Don't touch!" I do mediate often, mostly before falling asleep, I ask for Protection from the highest Spiritual Source.
Next month I will turn 52.  I have lived my life, mostly in isolation from a very young age, due to the unexplainable happenings around me. As the years have progressed, the experiances/happenings have grown more involved & complicated.
Even at an early age, family always felt that I was different in some way, although they have never questioned my link to the family tree. Quiet, shy & extremely obedient, I was always the one to get hit by "Murphy's Law!"  Yet never placed myself in a situation to shame my family.
When My Father passed away when I was 11, my Mother re=married a few years later.  In doing so, left me behind, yet took my 2 younger Brother's with her.  I ended up being placed with an Aunt & Uncle who wasted no time in getting me enrolled in the Convent(Dominion) after High School Graduation. I soon learned that there was a differance between religion(man made law) & Spirit(God's Law.)  The convent was an overt cover for amassing monetary means by guilt & fear. As soon as I turned 21, checked myself out of that situation which further isolated me from family, due to their belief structure.
For the most part, I have been plagued most of my life, by an outside force.  It seems like I have been tested/manipulated to pass certain obsticules.  Each time I succeed, I get hit with something more involved/dramatic to over come. Along with success has come questionable health.  I have always been health conscious. As a rule, If God didn't make it, I don't eat it. I am into vitamins/supplements due to deteriating health. After the incident of the hard blow to the stomach that put me out 14 hrs, I have been diagnsosed with Chronic fatigue/Fibermyalgia(affecting muscles & joints.) Sleep paralysis is a symtom.  Research has named Candida as the main cause plus a low protein imbalance.  I have addressed all of this with counter-measures for Candida & doubled the protein uptake along with the 38 vitamins/supplements. On paper, I should be nearly cured... yet I am far from it. Defies Doctor expectation.  Something is holding me back from health, some outside force.  Question is, if I over come this, what's next in line?  I leave nothing unturned for an explaination.

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hello again, I felt I needed to clarify a point.  My isolation, in part, especially in my later years, has been self impossed.  It's not so much psychological as it is physical.  I have gone the root of psychotherapy & partical regression.  
Partical isolation provides me with the ability to determine where & what direction I am being tested, how I am getting hit, under what circumstances, which gives me a more direct way of using mediation to over come & correct the imbalance.
Experiance has suggested that, although the incidents are physical & interupt my daily life, the manifestcation is energy related & an outside force.  I often have felt like a puppet on a string, being manipulated against my better judgement/will by something unseen with a negative atmosphere.  When the air stops feeling heavy around me(the feeling like being in a whirl tunnel of heavy energy) & I reconize that my psychic boundaries are widening, I know intuitively that I have used "my will" to break the connection.  The air around me becomes light & physical problems lighten up.  I know that I'm in another direct attack when I begin to notice the atmoshere around me getting heavy, which usually brings on an infection somewhere in my body.  Feeling drained, I retreat to a quiet spot, outside if possible & try to mediate.  It provides partial relief to the physical symtoms.  I can reason the fact that all this may sound like I have some heavy mental problems, but I can assure you...I am stable of Mind. Because I have trained myself to detect outside influence doesn't make me psychoic.
I feel that Spiritual Quest & Psychic Self Defense....go hand & hand. To raise beyond the negative base of physical existance, to willingly raise above that, you put yourself in line to experiance "God-head" on one end & the negative force that trys to keep you in line on the other.  The ying/yang or opposite forces. My willing intent to experiance Christ conciousness in this lifetime, has brought forces of negative/physical accord.  Trying to identify the outside force is not in my line of experiance.  I have not been gifted or it is being veiled from my senses...to identify this outside force. Constant study & unwaving commitment have not brought to light, the force I am dealing with.  In the mean time, my search goes on while my health deteriates further.  I have come to this web-site for help!  To identify the source & overcome it...before my health leaves me to weak to fight physically.
At one point, several months ago, my condition with fibermylagia forced me to walk with a cain & hop from one chair to the next...just to move around. Just dosing off in a chair would produce sleeping paralsis that would last up to an hour before I could move a finger or toe to break it.  I have experianced no dreams for years. I have since overcome the worst of this condition by strictly adhering to supplementation/vitiamins with high protein supplements, so as not to tax the digestive process in iliminating toxins in my system which the Candida produce.  I should be losing weight by pounds & inches, yet I have gained...which makes no logical sense. Trying to physically keep mobile & infection free takes away my concentration on my Spiritual efforts of study.  And this is exactly what this outside force wants!!!

[angelburst29@Yahoo.Com]

Hi, I'm new to this forum.  I have searched for years, the meaning of 2 experiances.  I have had many but always found some logical explaination.  Both occured during the day & when I was home alone. In the 1st...It was a Sat. Morning & I was busy doing dishes & cleaning. While walking through my rooms & into the bedrooms to pick up laundry to wash...my mind went blank & I found myself paralized/ standing in position.  Suddenly, I felt a pressure start at the top of my head & travel slowly down through my body, down to my feet & out. Mentally, my mind was clear of any dialog but my awareness was directed to the sensation. After about a minute...I felt the sensation start from the bottom of my feet...travel up through my body & out through the top of my head. (not up the spine) Then I felt a release & found myself walking again.  I sat on the edge of the bed & had a feeling of being "violated."  At the time, had no health problems nor used any type of medication.                             In the 2nd...about 3 yrs. later...was returning home from working all night at a DVD plant when I walked into the kitchen door. I just put my thermos down on the table & was heading for the coffee maker to make fresh...when all of a sudden...I experianced a hard, sharp physical blow to my stomach area which dropped me to my knees in front of the refrigerator. Yet, I was the only one there! All my senses were directed on the pain from the sharp blow to my stomach. Then a feeling of impending death...a knowing & everything went black. As I awoke, it was dark but for the light coming through a front window facing the street. I was laying in front of the refrigerator. I got up, turned on the kitchen light & sat at the table.  I had lost 14 hours (from coming home in the morning from work until waking up?) Hours earlier, I had felt at death's door. Now I had a feeling of complete health?  I had to call into work (sick) for there was not enough time to shower/change & get there in time for my shift.  Any suggestions to either of these experiances?