Deadlines

[Major Tom]

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[G3MM4]

What a great idea! Maybe this will help me in a way... []

[Manix]

I'll give it a try. Would be interesting if we all set a mutual date, then report back to see how successfull we all were.

[AntiGravity]

Thanks very much everyone!
Im glad some people find this helpful in a way.
Yes Manix, thats what I wanted to do from the start, but I though we could pick our own dates. Either one is fine, we just have to agree on a date.

[Manix]

Hey cool! It's your idea so you think up a date. Just keep it to a Friday or Saturday night when none of us have to get up and go to work lol!

[G3MM4]

Yeah, just keep it to a Friday or Saturday!!! I have to go to college in the week.

I have just read that insomnia method topic, and I think I'll give it a try this weekend.

[AntiGravity]

quote:Originally posted by G3MM4

Yeah, just keep it to a Friday or Saturday!!! I have to go to college in the week.

I have just read that insomnia method topic, and I think I'll give it a try this weekend.

Yea, same here. I also have school during the week, so Id have to pick a Friday or Saturday.
Im flattered that you both would let just me pick the date, but here it goes!
Hmm, today's Thurday,...Hows about the 22nd? Since this week is almost over, I wanted to give at least 2 weeks.
Maybe thats too soon, I dont know![]
Well, Im just gonna say Saturday the 22nd, and if its a problem, please tell me.
Thank you all!
[|)]

[Manix]

Saturday the 22nd it is!

[AntiGravity]

Im bumping this for those who might want to try it.

So, hows everyone doing, any sucess at all?
I think, by the few days before our deadline, that things will speed up greatly. Just my little theory on that.
Um, thats it from me.
Take care, and good luck!
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[JAW]

Haha, sounds good people. Hope you succeed.
I can just imagine on the 22nd all these people grinding their teeth going "come on!!! get out you bloody second body!!! Its the 22nd! ynnngggh!!!" haha. Sorry to make fun

I do wonder seriously if having a deadline will add pressure to something which is supposed to be induced by being relaxed. Plus if you're supposed to clear your mind, having a deadline theoretically should never enter your mind, making it kinda useless if you get what I mean.

Anyway tell me how you go.

Cheers.

[Cezyl]

Hey AntiGravity.

Thank for such a helpful topic. I'll join in. By the 22nd. I'll see how it goes. []

Cheers.

[Cezyl]

One good thing about this is perhaps we can take the pressure off some. In the success stories in the article Robert Bruce suggested to someone that they focus mainly on energy work and trance meditation for a week or two before trying again. The 22nd being Saturday of next week, perhaps we can make the majority of practices from today through Tuesday the 18th or Wednesday the 19th energy work and trance, to prepare for our successes at the end of next week. THen start seriously practicing to get out by Wednesday.

Just a thought. I'll most likely continue trying to get out the entire time, but focus more attention on trance and energy work till like Wednesday. What do you think?

[Manix]

I've been working on the insomnia method. I've been falling asleep after 2 1/2 hours. Ooops. Been getting some pretty strong Lucid Dreams though, so it's not a total loss yet. I'm currently unemployed with nothing stressful to bother me at the moment. So adding stress isn't a problem, but this has helped my focus tremendously.

[AntiGravity]

Hello all! Glad to have you with us Cezyl, I enjoy reading your posts in other topics.
JAW, you may be right about that, but I doubt that well try to get THAT obsessed about it. You just kinda want to feel like you have to/need to get out.
Manix: Ive been trying that method to on Fridays and Saturdays, I dont know how long I stay awake, but I do know that I like blackout the rest of the night. []
Cezyl: I like that idea, I really do. Perhaps thats what we should do, though Id like to modify/clarify what you mean.
So, let me try to understand what you mean, we practice energy and trance work from now to the 19th (next Wednesday), then try to get out by the next Wednesday (the 26th).
Maybe we should exten the energy and trance work to Friday or Saturday of next week, then try to get out the week after on Friday or Saturday.
Id like to hear everyones opinion on this so we can decide. Im all for Cezyls idea, what does everyone else think[?]
Take care everyone!
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[Cezyl]

Hey. It's great to be welcome AntiGravity. [] Cool name...

http://www.timeanddate.com/

Either, and, both. []

I was saying we can practice trance and energy working to help meet the original goal for no later than Saturday the 22nd/23rd. I already have marked on my calendar success by 21st, which is Friday of next week here. I'll do a lot of energy working and meditation from now until Wednesday in preparation (while still trying to get out during this period), and then REALLY try for Friday the 21st, letting the buildup of preparation carry me out (if I don't start getting out before then).

12 May 2004

Hey all. I'm very excited.

I am getting closer to an experience. The last few nights, doing the waking up and then going back to sleep, I got some good dreams. This morning, earlier this morning, I had two instances of something holding tightly to my hand, which I went to shake off and realize I was squishing it due to how I was laying. I was in partial paralysis I'd say. And later, in a second practice for the day, going back to sleep again, I was in definite paralysis after some dream sequences. I sat up one time, but the rest I was too afraid for the dream was that someone was breaking into the house. I was reacting to the dream rather than pushing the projection. I am closer though. Thanks again for all your help.



We can also continue again for those who want to go the next week's Friday or Saturday (29 or 30 of May), or who want to wait and do a full week of trance and energy working for the 29 or 30. We can make it every Friday/Saturday for as long as it feels good. It can be a marker in our life, a period of time where we really try to get out, no matter what else is going on, no matter if we practiced all week or none at all. The regularity and 'appointment' of it in itself should help us get out.

Take care. Thoughts, concerns?

Cezyl

[Euphoric Sunrise]

A deadline is all well and good, but don't put too much into thinking you have to make the deadline. Trust me, it's not good to do that.

Last year i had been practicing every night for at least a month, and i never got out, although my progress was good. So i decided to make a deadline of Christmas Eve. I continued my attempts, every single night, and some times during the day as well, to do my very best to meet or beat this deadline.
Well, it never happened. Christmas came and went and i still hadn't been out. The thing is, i think i put too much emotion into getting out before christmas eve that when it didn't happened i became disheartened, and stopped trying.
Since then i've had maybe 4 serious attempts at projecting. I'm not saying that's completely because of not meeting my deadline, but i'm sure it didn't help.
I reckon that if i had just kept on going, without making the deadline, i would have most certainly projected by now.

So just a word of caution, don't put too much into it. Of course you should try, but don't set your heart on it. Good luck to all who try it out!

[Cezyl]

You could also just set another deadline. []

Cheers.

[Cezyl]

Hey...

I had another morning of very vivid dreams. I'm going to do energy work now.

Take care.

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

hey all...

I am very excited. I am going to take a new approach to getting out of body, through dreams. I have found that once I become aware that I are dreaming it is just a matter of latching onto my nonphysical body by thinking it, like realizing I are really lying down asleep, and feeling for my body and connecting with it. Then I try to move and I find that I'm in paralysis, and then I relax and move out and away from my physical body. I have been waking up and going back to sleep, or just lounging in the morning by consciously thinking that in the morning I'll just dream, and this has had a great affect on bringing me some vivid dreams. I'll start to focus on my dreams more, and work on becoming aware in them and then just latch on to my nonphysical body as I said above and move out. I'll continue to meditate and stuff, and do energy work and things also. I figure this can be a stepping-stone to being able to get out consciously from waking, like directly stepping out. It related to the 'astral dreaming' method shared in the book Astral Travel by Yvonne and Gavin Frost, which is a very great book. I am too excited now to sit and read that part again, but it is closely related.  

Cezyl

[G3MM4]

Well, just to report on my progress (or the lack of it, depending on how you see it)...

One morning, a few days ago, I was in a deeply relaxed state, when I started to feel mild vibrations and weird noises, but they stopped after a while. Nothing has happened since.

[AntiGravity]

Hello everyone!
Ive been home sick with Strep for the past 2 days, so not much news from me yes.
Cezyl: I think thats a wonderful idea, leaving your body through a lucid dream. I actually was thinking about that recently, but I probably wont try it.
G3MM4:I see every attempt you make is progress. I feel that it helps motivation and confidence. Sorry to hear that nothing else has happend yet, though.
I hope to get back into practicing soon, being sick really sucks! Im still considering doing energy work for a few days before my next attempt.
Best of luck to you all!

[Cezyl]

Get well AG!!!

G3MM4... When you get vibrations you can focus on them and move them around, and make them increase to separation. With sounds you can listen to them and allow them to increase with separation. I have floated up before by working the vibes, just moving them up and down and stuff like that. I suppose it would work with sounds just as with imagery. Focusing on it takes you farther into the state.

Cheers.

[AntiGravity]

Hehe, Im gonna guess that noones had sucess at projecting yet? I tried the Insomnia method again last night, no luck I just fell asleep. For me the deadline aint over yet, it ends at 11:59 pm tonight for me!
If you do not suceed, dont get upset, try to analyze your attempts from the past two weeks to figure out why you couldnt do it. Then fix it and try again!
Best of luck to you all, and God bless!
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[G3MM4]

I've had no luck yet. I tried again yesterday, and had no luck whatsoever. I did feel as though I was sinking, but no vibrations or anything happened. I ended up falling asleep. []

Thanks for the suggestion Cezyl. I'll give it a try next time I feel these vibrations.

[Manix]

My update:

No OBE's or AP's in the form I was hoping for. However, I noticed an increase of vivid dreams and picked up a pattern in my dream recall.  Every two or three days regardless of how many dreams I can remember, there is always one that is very long, and detailed as well as Lucid more often than not. I've had no trouble falling a sleep since I've been practicing for an OBE and have often found myself lingering in the right state to initiate an OBE but have been too stressed and tired to pull it off.
Not a bad deal. I've encountered two new guides, perfected some LD techniques, discovered an interesting dream recall pattern, and have had some puzzling questions answered. I'm pleased with the results. I think I'll set another deadline in another two weeks. That's June 5th.
Here's the dream recall chart. The dream recall increase through out the month of May but most notably AFTER I began with the Deadline experiment. Hope everyone who's tried this has had some sort of satisfying results.
22nd 2
21st 5
20th 2
19th 3
18th 1
17th 2
16th 1
15th 4
14th 1
13th 2
12th 1
11th 3
10th 3
9th  3
8th  3
7th  5
6th  2
5th  2
4th  2
3rd  1
2nd  1
1st  1