Using magnets to turbo charge your energy

[cube]

So what do you do to train with magnets?

[CaCoDeMoN]

I think that those magnets are too expensive. Much cheaper and stronger magnets can be found inside computer hard-drives.

[j.bouwhuis@schaapskooi.pc]

Wich side of the magnets are at your skin, the north or the south side? How many gauss are they?
Jannie

[Moonburn33]

super strong magnets can actually damage your body- there is a reason why chinese people use lodestone.  it has a gauss that's low enough to not disrupt biological mechanisms.

more is not better in this case.

[Moonburn33]

so my bs detector goes crazy when i read stuff from that site.  there are so many discrepancies and sleazy marketing techniques that just make me want to close the window that i'm reading it in.

[cube]

Has anyone found specific techniques that have definite positive effects? (Links to places selling magnets are not very useful.)

[holy grail]

I appreciate all the various responses. First of all, I will share with you as much as I can without damaging the business of SPC. They have put into a lot of work and research to bring these to the world.

Hence I will not say which polarity (North or South) of the magnet to use for one's training. Sorry. Just note that, the wrong use of it may lead to unforeseen problems in the long term.

With regards to the price, it does comes with invaluable information with more then just opening the body channels, accumulating energy and packing energy into you organs. There are higher practices. There is also a year of free mentoring. In the mentoring further techniques are taught in according to your needs. Slows starting student get further help with other techniques to get you going. For advance student, more advance techniques are shared. For busy people such as myself, other quick energy accumulating is also taught. Obviously after a while you can start integrating your own knowledge with what is being taught. With the mentoring, you can also discuss with the instructor about such integration to see if it is wise to do so.

I am aware ,in general, using magnets even for one's health as magnetic blankets can to lead to imbalance in the long term for some people. With regards to the magnets (12,000 gauss) used for the training, SPC guys have researched and use it long enough to know. Hence it is important to get the information and mentoring to know how to use it properly and how not to use it. I have so far use it for two months and things are looking good.
I hope that answers some of the queries [8D]

[James S]

You want to be careful how much you use that BS detector of yours Moonburn. With some of the topics on this site, it's likely to overload and start smoking! []

Holy Grail & others looking into this -
The way I understand how the energy body works, magnetism isn't really going to do you any good, except as Moonburn says, cause your body damage if you subject it to too much magnetism for too long. Magnetism, like aromatherapy is a case of "less is more". In correctly used ways it can help reduce certain blood disorders, due to its affect on the iron in our blood, but that's about it.

I'd definitely ignore any sites you see that suggest that use of rare earth magnets can help extend your life. It's a complete load of rot!

As to the use of "loadstones" with practices relating to the energy body, what you're looking at here is a more active form of grounding.

Hematite for example, being basically a form of Iron oxide, is a very good stone for grounding. Remaining well grounded is very important in any kind of energy work, as you can do damage to your aura or energy body if you practice raising energy ungrounded.

Don't be too anxious to develop your energy body quickly. Ask a gymnast or dancer how long it takes for them to develop the muscle tone and flexibility for them to do what they can do. You rush things, you'll damage something. In the case of rushing energy work, you can damage your aura - create tears by trying to expand it too fast. The results usually are along the lines of unwanted neg attachments, as the main part of your natural defence is broken, and physical illnesses.

To use Holy Grail's analogy, "turbocharging" can create a lot more power, but unless the engine has been properly prepaired for a turbo, things tend to break!

Kind Regards,
James.

[Moonburn33]

anything above something like 60 or 70 gauss for extended periods of time has been shown to cause cancerous growths, among other things.  it generally disrupts the nervous activity wherever you put it.

[Moonburn33]

electromagnets have actually been shown to inhibit metabolic and maintainance processes in your body.  a little bit of interesting info.  magnets in general make the body more acidic- which is hostile towards infectious bacteria.. but it also throws everything off in your body.

it would be over years.  the problem is that our bodies have developed around specific areas of frequency in the earth- which are relatively low.  magnets that contain a higher gauss than what the earth puts out will damage you- over time.  the effects might not be immediate, but there is evidence to suggest that there is a causative relationship between high levels of gauss and physiological problems.

[holy grail]

James, runlola, Moonburn, thanks for your comments

With James, I couldn't agree more that "turbocharging" can create a lot more power, but unless the engine has been properly prepaired for a turbo, things tend to break!

Perhaps that is why with the SPC course for magnets start with Standing Meditation as the first and on going exercise, which among other things ground one's energy - before doing anything else.

With a decade of experience and research into energy and consciousness work, I have grounds to compare and associated with of what is experientially felt when doing the training with magnets. It simply works. Now whether it is detrimental to use such high strength magnet, say over a few years span is another question. That brings me to the concerns of Moonburn.

Moonburn, I would appreciate if you could give the source of your references so interested party can examine the information. As far as my training is concerned, I actually also use kinesiology muscle testing to check if it is wise to do certain exercise with the magnets often. So far it is fine. Also bear in mine, with a lot of things there is a trade off. I mean how many people are using mobile phone even though there are quite a few reports to say the detrimental affects of using it. Anyhow the jury is still out for using strong magnets. The day I find it detrimental is the day I will report it to this forum

Kind regards

[James S]

quote:Originally posted by holy grail
With a decade of experience and research into energy and consciousness work, I have grounds to compare and associated with of what is experientially felt when doing the training with magnets. It simply works.

Holy Grail,
that's the kind of thing I like to see posted here. You've done the hard yards, you've got the experience, you're not just looking for a quick fix and you found something that you have experienced for yourself as being effective.

I've seen some pretty nasty ideas on energy techniques on this site over the last couple of years, and it's nice to see someone speak from a good level of personal experience.

Blessings,
James.

[Jon_88]

Ohh Thats an pretty endless list of well effects one can procure at
a price of only a few hundred dollars. The name sound good to
"Scientific PREMIUM Company". The name id say is begging to be belived.

Questions is raising , what Science does it base it research on ? Physics ,biology? Chi isnt exactly a science.
Would be interesting to see some of their actual research(yes one can research but it doesnt make it science!) . Not only their sales arguments.It doesnt even say where they got the idea that magnets have positive effects on the body. And espessially that magnets + Chi Kung exercises = Good stuff. Perhaps it is , perhaps not.

Before i start feeling like a hypocrit i shall admitt i sometimes do exercises with magnets ,while i feel them just fine. I yet to see any spesial results from the use of them . Heck i got more bang out of crystals. Ohh well each are they own purse keeper , but im never shelling out 100$ and above for hearsay ,rumors and others beliefs!

[holy grail]

Just a quick one runlola but will give you more info next time
Apart from the package to do with magnets (a self contained course), I also have the Chi power plus - the E version. Intend to get the advance video training sometime.

[holy grail]

Runlola

It is mentioned that in one of the higher practices in the course that comes with the magnets, that knowing chi power plus makes it a bit easier. The foundation overlaps with chi power plus. I have only listened to some of the audio files that comes with e-version.

Since started the course, I have been busy integrating the magnet course with some other energy practices. Each of these exploration takes time. Also integrated magnet with tachyonised tool technology. One that will interest anybody who is doing this course is integrating the standing meditation with working on one's negative traits aspect of the training. That is doing them at the same time and hence saving a lot of time. If you are getting this course, post a note here, I will share this finding with you.

With regards if one is able to do the advance stuff along with some QiGong, I don't see a problem with that in general. The only thing for me is having the time to do various practices. Also that infers your consideration in getting all the courses. I mean if you don't have sufficient time to look into all of it (eg. leaving the advance stuff for 6 months or longer therefore shortening you mentoring time you have when you come to doing it), that may as well get one first and then other one when you are ready for it.

With regards to the practices of accumulation of the basic elements (fire, air, water and earth),I will give you a link to look at indicate what is achievable. Though I am not saying that are using exactly the same techniques as SPC. Note the raising of room temperatures and the immovability aspects.

www.pranichealing/presspacket/kungfu.pdf or see www.pranichealing.org/magazines.htm kung fu march 1999

[Moonburn33]

just so you know, i was wrong.  DC magnets with a strength of up to 20,000 gauss are perfectly safe.

what i got mixed up was the warning about using electromagnets and how a few studies in germany were shown to induce negative effects when overexposed (more than an hour a day)

[holy grail]

The link given previously had a typo on it, the full link is www.pranichealing.org/presspacket/kungfu.pdf

Runlola, just let you know that only in the course for the magnet has the accumulation of elements teaching. They are not on other courses such as the advanced chi dvd. Though you may be only interested in the dvd.

Moonburn, thanks for that info. Just wondering if you could give a reference to that, even if it is journal. Could be a useful reference. Someday, I may get magnets of 25,000 guass for training.

For those who are interested, below are two links I came across the last few days, about the benefits the use of magnets with regards to health.

www.worldofmagnets.co.uk/articles

www.karinya.com/biomag.htm

[holy grail]

Good to hear about somebody else experience with using strong magnets. By the way, what kind of QiGong you are doing. For me, the SPC magnet course is worth it, just for the various extra instructions/tips, either techniques or the further use of the magnets in a correct way that is not part of the course materials. And also the inspiring accounts from my instructor which I am not privilege to say anything here.

Those strong magnets especially large ones when stuck together can be very hard to separate. At the beginning,I need a dream to tell me how to separate them easily. Here is the technique just in case you got yours stuck together. Put the magnets underneath a ledge or a step. Position in a way (with the help of books/papers underneath the magnets if nesssary to prop them to the right height) that the upper magnet is just above the ledge. You can push the upper magnet out easily that way.

With 25,000 guass magnets, let say I will have use for them. Anyhow it is very expensive and only available in as small disc, that is why I have not got some yet.

Best wishes

[holy grail]

Master Chunyi Lin spring forest qigong? Somebody in a private list I belong to highly recommended it.

Getting pinched by small strong magnets is some experience too!

[zaicer]

I dont know if anyone already said what I am about to say becouse I didnt feel like reading all the posts.

The human mind is devided into 3 parts. The concious (middle self), subconcious (lower self) and higher self (or superconcious). It is the job of the lower self to collect energy, we (the logical part of mind) as the middle self must only concetrate and gide the process the lower self will do the rest(subcouncious collects energy naturaly to sestain the body, when we concetrate on energy we gather extra amounts of it) . Using props to energize is very good becouse the lower self responds strongly to physical stymuly and gathers more energy if such stymuly is present, but we must remember that it is not important what kind of object we hold and where, it is only important to hold something (and KNOW that it helps you to gater MASSIVE amounts of energy, even if the object itself has no actual effect).

I personaly dont use anything for gathering energy but I do use a chant to keep my mind on the task. Before i started chanting I use to just drift away and return to energy work after a minute or 2 but now I noticed that the chant continues even when I space out for a sec, it allows me to return more quickly to energy work and make better use of my time. (my chant is "mana, mana-mana, mana-loua" I mostly do huna work so my chant is taken from that system [])

[holy grail]

The ancient Chinese uses loadstone (natural occuring magnetic stones) to enhance their energy training. This is something that is not widely known. They would place loadstones on their feet, palms and third eye during various training exercise and meditations. Modern day technology provide us super strong magnets, a lot stronger then any naturally occuring magnetic stone. Using such super magnets can greatly facilitate the movement and the accumulation of energy in one's training.

Such magnets, the proper use of it and a full training course is available at www.spc-usa.com (New Chi Power Magnets) or www.chipower.com Also see the interview with Dan Freeman. The course starts with various techniques to generate energy, ground your energy, open up your legs/arms, front/back body energy channels before proceeding to balance and pack energy to your organs and bone marrow.

The is also energy releasing technique to work on issues especially one's negative traits before moving on higher practice. Some higher practice includes the accumulation of fire (enable one to raise room temperature by a few degrees, etc), air (enable one to jump higher then before and move a lot faster), water (cool one down in hot weather) and earth meditation (developing iron body and immovable when pushed).

I am been training using such magnets and the above course only a short time and it has greatly accelerate my energy accumulation. On the fifth day of my training the energy pulsation on my hands feels like there are actually a pair of strong magnets, even though I am only standing on the magnets.

Thought I share this invaluable information with this group.[]