Maitreya

[nitetravler]

Hi Stillwater,

From what I've read about Maitreya over the years, especially when I first started reading Krishnamurti's biography back in '82, he seems to be a major personage in the Theosophical hierarchy. He's supposed to reincarnate at particular moments in time to help speed the spiritual evolution of humanity. The Theosophists believed this wholeheartedly, only they felt that he would 'take over' the body of a highly evolved, suitable person ALREADY living (Krishnamurti), and operate through him.  

Beyond this I know next to nothing except that Krishnamurti himself broke away from the Theosophial Society while still it's leader in 1929. His reason, based in part from what you already stated, was that truth had no path to it, nor should anyone set themselves up as a 'leader'. He felt that everyone had to seek truth without the constraints of organized religion, and consequently discover it for themselves.

[thelou]

Very good Stillwater, I have read your commentary with utmost interest.  To the point of reading into what kind of person you are and your belief system.  It is obvious to me that you are a learned person whom has most likely spent countless hours studding many different topics with an open mind.  Finding your own truths with what resonated with your own beliefs and your heart.  Not a person to quickly fall to the beliefs of the masses believing what ever they are told to believe, simply because they are told to believe it.  I especially enjoyed your signature.

Especially impressive coming from a 17 year old.  I formally welcome you to this forum and suggest that you stick around for a while.  You will undoubtedly be giving sage advice to both novice and veteran in no time.  I look forward to reading your posts.

A quick glance at the link you supplied shows me that it requires much more time to investigate than I am now allowed.  But it looks very intriguing.  Thanks for sharing.

Nitetraveler wrote,

quote:Beyond this I know next to nothing except that Krishnamurti himself broke away from the Theosophial Society while still it's leader in 1929. His reason, based in part from what you already stated, was that truth had no path to it, nor should anyone set themselves up as a 'leader'. He felt that everyone had to seek truth without the constraints of organized religion, and consequently discover it for themselves.

I agree wholeheartedly with this.  Jesus himself tells us not to get involved with organized religion and to find the path back to God ourselves.


Thelou

[Tayesin]

A few years ago I saw photos' of an alleged maifestation of Maitreya.  Apparently this had been happening for a number of years.  Given that over the past 20 years or so it has been claimed various times that Maitreya was now born,  I take the let's wait and see approach.

Isn't Maitreya supposed to be the Buddha of Compassion according to general Buddhist philosophy ?  Isn't it interesting that the re-incarnated Buddhist Holies and Deities always go to India or that region to be reborn ?

While I enjoyed reading your post Stillwater, for the intelligence it so obviously shows, I was hoping to see your ideas offered to what we could refer to as 'the lowest common denominator'.  Sound ideas need to be presented in forms that most people can readily understand.  Apart from this little niggle Stillwater, I appreciated your depth of understanding and sensibility.

Love Always. []

[Eol007]

Hi Stillwater,

Can I also welcome you to the forum, and thank you 'all' for expressing such thoughtfulness!

Cheers,


Stephen

[Stillwater]

quote:A quick glance at the link you supplied shows me that it requires much more time to investigate than I am now allowed. But it looks very intriguing. Thanks for sharing.

You are most welcome. It seems to me that the site appears to primarily be a vehicle by which their Last Testament, which they refer to as The Holiest of The Holies (or THOTH as the site itself refers to it[]) may be presented. I cannot claim to have yet tackled this monster of texts on my own though, and can only state that I have have perused the material, selectively gathering information so as to better gain somewhat of an initial "feel" of what this whole business might be about.

quote:A few years ago I saw photos' of an alleged maifestation of Maitreya. Apparently this had been happening for a number of years. Given that over the past 20 years or so it has been claimed various times that Maitreya was now born, I take the let's wait and see approach.

Yes, a number of such photos are availible a this site. I cannot say with irrefutable certainty, however I believe that this man claims himself to be the Maitreya. According to other sites (and possibly this link too) he actually plans to telepathically speak to the entire population of the world at an approaching moment in time- I suppose that would be a good moment to make up one's mind about things, no?[]

quote:While I enjoyed reading your post Stillwater, for the intelligence it so obviously shows, I was hoping to see your ideas offered to what we could refer to as 'the lowest common denominator'. Sound ideas need to be presented in forms that most people can readily understand. Apart from this little niggle Stillwater, I appreciated your depth of understanding and sensibility.

It is that I cannot say that I am certain about what you mean here, however, if you want my take, I will borrow my position from your post, and I shall "Wait and see".

If it is that you would like a greater wealth of information, I shall again refer you to the link, which cannot be tackled by any amongst us but a speed reader (who would obviously miss the point while reading scriptures).It seems the basis of their new ideas, those concepts which are neither synthesized from the other keystone religions nor put forth as being prophesies to support the rest, would be this system which has already been arranged and instituted in several locales, which involves the effort of a group to invoke the blessings of an ascended master via the Great Invocation, and then consequently channel the energy which this master would then send to their party through the brow chakras; this energy would then be "stepped down" in a way most akin to ac currents, and then directed, again by the masters, to a desired "sink" where it might be needed. It seems that in this way that the group feels that they can literally augment the cahnge in the world which so many desire, and I must give them that ground. The thing which I think is a bit unsteady about this whole premise is that they constantly try to prove this new religion through countless prophesies given by other religions, and they are usually things that can never truly be proven, have more than one possible interpretation, or are clearly deviated from. They seem to state that this new path is the only True one, and this also seems a bit cult-esque to me.

Thank you,
Stillwater

[Stillwater]

I am open to any and all information which others have to contribute to the cause of educating this poor fool about the Maitreya, and welcome any commetns or alternative ideas.

Thank you,
Sillwater

[Stillwater]

Hello friends,

Through a bit of research recently, it has come to my attention that a man called the Maitreya, which is in my understanding a Buddhist term denoting a messiah-like bodhisattva figure, has supposedly taken incarnation a number of years past (1948, I believe).

I am doubtful of the authenticity of this figure, as one cannot be so quick to follow the tune of every new pied' piper without meeting with the consequences assigned to those poor souls whose gullibility most often leads them to take baseless belief systems which have no foundation in either reality or man's attempt to better understand it and improve the lot of himself and others; however, I shall say that this figure offers an intriguing set of tenets which quickly caught my attention, for be they perhaps the false wisps of a grand ranconteur of tales's fancy, they are nothing less than a grand pantheistic and universalist's dream, as they are formed from the fibers of most every major world religion (seven in all).

I shall say that I am unsure of this man, and cannot myself say whether he is a prophet, or charlatan and poisoner of men's hearts; therefore I offer these statements as neither personal advocacy, nor open denunciation. Ultimately, it is my feeling that one should reach their own understanding of the universe and God, independant of the wills of others, and so I only say these things to bring this person to common attention.  

A site which I have found that appears to give an unequivocal presentaion of this individual is as thus follows: http://www.maitreya.org/English/  

Any commentary about this person, avatar, prophet, or what-have-you is certainly welcomed. I shall say that I hold no stance in the matter.

The justification for which I have chosen to enter this topic under this particular heading is that many of the supposed "teachings" appear to integrate the more mystical aspects of religion, and several ideas seem to focus upon the existence of the universe being arranged into a paradigm that coincides with many of the concepts embraced by the "OBEing sect"- among them the stratification of the universe into physical and nonphysical levels, as well as the ideas of reincarnation and karmic effects. Strangely enough, it is these very concepts, along with the idea of non-fatalism (as far as I can see) which I would deem to be most antithetical to western religions (namely Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), and thus it is increasingly more perplexing to me that the ideas central to each could be reconciled to not only agree with one another, but also to accept concepts which would in any other paradigm be invariably name "New Age".

Thank you all for your patience and discretion,
Stillwater