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Hello everybody. This is an interesting thread.

I want to do a contribution. I have made my own audios for projecting and I want to share them with you.

I made two audios, one of binaural beats and the other of isochronic tones. Both have the same frequencies.

0 to 10 minutes: from 32 to 8 hz.
10 to 20 minutes: from 8 to 4 hz.
20 to 60 minutes: it remains in 4 hz.
60 to 70 minutes: from 4 to 32 hz.

I put the sound OM during the first 30 minutes.

Download here: http://depositfiles.com/files/mvu0wk9qx
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Thanks for the link, huge file though, won't download.

Hi MDM - if you don't mind having a look at my last topic in the OBE about guides teaching you things - if you don't mind explaining some of the things you have learned and how the guides have went about teaching, i do realize your time is scarce here on this forum but just wanted too get this out in the open for the odd chance you do have time . thanks!!!

Thanks Ajdin, can you point me to the thread?

I am trying to figure out what I am going to do when I die. I pretty sure I want to go to higher dimensions. I don't know how to do that. Can someone tell me? I have already searched the forum here and Googled. It all I got was that you call on a higher power.

I kind of got the  idea from Frank that people in the astral go higher when they just give up and stop being so attached to what they are doing. Is that true? Is that what he meant?

Hi Astralprojectee,

I devoted a large part of my website to your question in which I describe the higher dimensions in some detail. It is not easy to get into using "Astral" projection as it is the very "Astral Body" which you have to project from so in a sense leaving it behind in the same way you leave your physical body behind during an OBE. Since first projecting via an OBE (described in my book "Multidimensional Man" under the chapter "The Final Frontiers") I've found other methods which go straight from physical awareness (using meditation) into a "super dimensional" state of consciousness, but even these are rare and rely on a number of factors. If you want to find out more about it, please visit my website. There are 4 parts to this topic under the menu heading "The Super Dimensions": http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Higher_Mental_Planes_or_Heaven_Worlds.html

Because the only way to enter these realities is by relinquishing your social and ego identification I devoted another chapter to this topic which deals with the state of mind you will need to nurture, which you can find here under the section Enlightenment:
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/What_is_an_awakened_mind_like.html

It's not as daunting as it sounds. It has mostly been reported by large numbers of people who suffered Near Death experiences. This of course is not an ideal method of projection for obvious reasons. And also NDEers are usually unprepared and often overwhelmed by the experience. They frequently return from it with a new evangelical outlook, seeking a religious reference system in order to explain it better. Their trauma doesn't allow them to spend "time" (which is a contradiction) in this state of consciousness, which is more likely during induced projection, allowing you to take full advantage of the incredible vistas surrounding you.

But I have spoken to other OBEers who have broken the barriers (one such testimony is also on my website), so its not impossible. Naturally, once you have been there once, it will change your outlook on life drastically and your interest in ordinary (Astral) OBE will appear pedestrian by comparison. Once experienced there is no going back. It will also make it easier for you to pursue the path, because you understand more about your true nature and the characteristics you'll need to develop to attain this state.

Of course the best way to guarantee yourself a good position after you die is to start practicing living in the present now, but that's another story.

Tony is not always recognized for his brave attempts to find a rational more scientific explanation for the phenomena we experience and is often rather harshly criticized, especially by some old school scientists. I think this is rather unfair. Although I don't agree with everything he says, I see him more like a visionary who has the guts to draw new connections and lay out a broad plan. I am sure eventually these new territories will gradually be underpinned with solid science. Yes, its feasible "consciousness" will become a subject to be studied in future curriculums at schools. I hope so.

Check out his website:
http://www.anthonypeake.co.uk/

I think everything we are engaged in during our waking hours can extend into the territory of our "dream" world, especially on the lower dimensional level of out-of-body "dreamers" (not conscious during projection), OBE projectors and the deceased. Everything that exists on this physical level also exists on the next dimensional levels, pubs, taxis, supermarkets, trains, you name it - everything, because everything has a higher dimensional counterpart. In my own experiences I have been to supermarkets (often rather empty), traveled on buses, trains, planes and automobiles. I talked to "dreamers" while traveling on a bus once. I've even paid money for something when asked by an astral vendor, where I magically pulled some strange currency out of my pocket.

So naturally there is no reason why there can't be building sites including diggers, trucks and cranes etc. In the appendix of my book I addressed these issues of how things come into existence on the higher dimensional levels and why. You don't have to buy my book though, a magazine called "Space of Love" reprinted this article with some of the information which you can download here:
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/content/Super_Powers.pdf

Once you have become familiar with the higher dimensional levels it will also become easier to find out the "whys" and "hows", because you can more easily tune into the information pool. Many people who have never ventured into the higher dimensional level often believe that it is something totally different from our earth level. Yes it is, but also it isn't. Many people I have spoken to and who had died had quickly adjusted to their new life and taken many of the strange things for granted, believing that their previous earth life, was little more than a dream. We also have to bear in mind that on the lower earth-like levels, the powers are greatly restricted. For example many there are reluctant to take advantage of their new power of flying, because it takes too much energy and requires a positive attitude, which they find harder to muster. So they carry on as they are used to on earth.

Creativity too is limited. So not surprisingly there is still some form of currency, but they don't seem to pay too much attention to what the currency looks like, almost anything that looks like money will do. People who have learned a certain craft while on earth are better at creating things such as builders and craftsmen, they are enlisted by others to create homes, objects and even cars etc. They soon learn that their selfless act increases their creative powers and they gradually advance to a higher level. Of course I am talking here of the lower earth-like dimensional levels. On the higher dimensional level the picture changes dramatically.

A couple of days ago I projected to a much higher dimensional level and was given a tour of the equivalent of a country estate (The people who invited me where people I recognized from a previous inter life). We proceeded via a horse drawn coach to a massive conservatory, double the size of a football stadium, the massive roof held up by magnificent palm-shaped pillars, the glass panes  laid out in intricate pattern. I tried to memorize it in order to recreate when returning, but the intricacy was simply too mind blowing to attempt. The inside of this vast conservatory was landscaped with plants. flowers and water features which would have demanded creativity I have not come across even in sumptuous Hollywood movies, especially with regard to some of the plants which don't even exist here. Now such creativity is not possible on the lower levels.

Anthony Peake is a science writer and friend of mine, with whom I swapped books and discussed Out-of-Body experiences. He is not an "experiencer" as such, but somebody with the right mindset bringing a massive amount of available data together, analyzing and compiling them into a sound system that makes scientific sense. Although I don't necessarily share all his conclusions, I find his attitude and approach to the subject simply inspirational. This video was taken at the launch of his new book: "The Out of Body Experience: The History and Science of Astral Travel".

Anybody who is interested in the phenomena of consciousness and Out-of-Body-Experience should watch Anthony's presentation and check out his book. Anthony endeavors to provide a sound scientific bases in order to explain the phenomena widely reported on this forum. He is always interested in acquiring new data and makes himself readily accessible like few other people I know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVJJrz_f1U&feature=player_embedded

I have experienced both, just passing through and also what Volgerle confirmed, the bulging effect. Sometimes, after bulging, the "glass" bursts into fine droplets or particles with a "pop" and then zaps back to its former status. I wondered whether a certain anticipation of resistance brings into focus the materiality of the astral dimension which reveals intrinsic "physical" properties. Volgerle (and others) have described this with blinds as well. The moment attention is focused on something else, perhaps something on the other side or a different target altogether may simply bypass the resistance.

Talking of resistance I recently came across a report of an experiencer who reported electric power cables crisscrossing the sky which made it difficult for him to rise into the sky. This was also a confirmed phenomena and it triggered memories from my early days of OBEs where I came across the power cable effect a number of times, but later I never had it again.

If these resistance effects are widely observed one has to ask whether these are actual dimensional forces or barriers, which express themselves as certain "metaphors" we can relate to or identify as Tom Campbell would probably refer to them. Or if they are just projections of our own subconscious or may be perhaps a bit of both.

Barriers in general always seemed to pop up from time to time. I had similar barriers my OBEs in the distant past which Robert Monroe also reported in his first book. In the end, after months of frustration, I had the good fortune to meet an old Chines guide (during OBEs), who trained me to overcome these limitation. I understood from the tasks he set me that they were mainly barriers created by myself. Though  later I came to understand that these barriers are actual barriers between dimension which have to be broken by shifting awareness to the next dimensional level, which meant relinquishing some of the coarser material. On the much higher levels, which I refer to as the "Super Dimensions", it simply meant relinquishing the Ego with its social identifications.

I am very aware of the big influence Monroe (and Keppler) are having on this forum with the terminology, such as "Focuses" with assigned numbers, which makes a lot of sense and I am in general agreement with it. The reason I like to refer to it as a hierarchy of dimensions is that to me they seem to be stacked like "boxes" of different types of energies, where identification with coarser energies won't allow us to enter a dimensional level (or focus level) of a finer energy.

Thanks Folks, very nice thoughts. I am not inaccessible. Although I run a full time illustration business, often working late and weekends, I try as much as possible to respond to the emails (sometimes delayed). The work we do here, individually, exploring OBEs and states of consciousness really is a new frontiers activity, potentially vaster and richer even than the discoveries of the New World centuries ago. On Mars we probably only find varieties of sand and rock after having spent billions getting there. OBEs are low budget - high return. Once their true value is realized more people will want to access our higher dimensional realities.

What I find most intriguing are the real returns, such as losing the fear of death, exploring the deeper levels of consciousness, confronting fears, entering higher states of consciousness and becoming aware that there is a root level of energy which simply unites not just human consciousness but everything that appears around us. The last thing I would want is to sound religious by saying this. The great beauty of the experience is we don't have to listen to others to "believe", we can dive into it and discover for ourselves.

That doesn't mean I would be averse to participating in some kind of documentary or discussion project, quite the opposite. Data we unearth should be verified by others and critically analyzed to arrive at some form of consensus. I don't like to make any distinction between published authors, PHDs and the guy with their first OBE. All experiences are valuable resource material and on a spiritual level there is no distinction.

Recently a friend reported what is now referred to as the "flexed window" phenomena. I often found when OBEing and exiting though my bedroom window, the glass would flex like soft thick plastic and then pop as I went through. When pointing this out, others came forward and reported the same phenomena. This is a powerful consensual observation. The subconscious and consciousness would always associate glass with shattering rather than flexing. I pointed this out to the members of INACS (Institute for Neuroscience and Consciousness Studies) and mentioned this should be treated as proof that there is an element of "physicality" to a higher dimensional level.

I already heard mentioned on this threat, after my own posting, the "cartoon" effect. What is this all about and why is this happening? What function of consciousness is at work here? A while back I had a dream where I was in a room with people talking, when I noticed right in front of my eyes a large green cartoon caterpillar crawling past with big cartoon eyes and a big "up yours" grin on his face. I immediately concluded I was dreaming and instantly became fully lucid. The caterpillar vanished, but the people were still there. I deepened awareness and started talking to the people asking them about their "death" (of course they looked at me in an amused kind of way).

What I am saying is, every observation is valuable when seen in the context of the observations of others. This is why forums are important. Naturally they are also of great help to newcomers. The knowledge of the few becomes the experience of the many.

(BTW Ryan, I finally put a link to your website.)

Rudolph, there's one 'place' I visited with a guide in 1969 which was nothing but pure white light. The entities there had a problem with my presence regarding me as barbaric. I remember no words were said just a pulse of knowing and I had no control of anything. The overall experience left me feeling somewhat depressed but this was implanted with all the info I wished to know.
The trip started with me asking what was the ultimate 'good and bad' that exists and I WAS enlightened with a time dependent answer. I knew a return to the light place was unlikely as what life offers MY reactions to it would not be acceptable. At the time I had many outings behind me from previous years from as early as four years old. I was still less than ten years old at that time. I knew nothing of OOBE's just that if I wanted to see someone it was easy to do so long as I didn't fall asleep.
I think that locale was in F4 in the Frank system. It was totally unlike anywhere else. I guess this is the higher realms you mentioned above.

I think we are getting into some really interesting territory here, OBE states beyond the OBE states, where consciousness is transcended to such a degree that it becomes "omnipresent", penetrating and uniting the total spectrum of all possible human experience. As you said this is often referred to as the "White Light", the ultimate destiny. This is of course at the root of all religion and human aspiration.

This is the same place often reported by people who went there via trauma as in Near Death Experience. Check out some of the NDE reports. People will mostly report it using a religious reference system, because there is little in terms of language that will adequately describe it, but a complete atheist can still get there, as it has nothing to do with believes or mind constructs. Using meditation and OBEs is a natural method and we won't be traumatized, but life will be transformed nevertheless.

Last year I "stumbled" via a direct route into it without OBEs, simply using meditation, but of course it is never as straight forward as one might imagine, because it relies on a number of other factors. I described an OBE in my book which led into it, but no need to buy the book though, if you are interested, I dealt in part (four parts) of it on my website under the menu heading "Super Dimensions". The point is, it's not beyond ones reach. In fact trying it during the next OBE is a good idea, either calling on guides to assist or by trying meditation using mantras etc. You will find that a carefully chosen mantra has a direct effect on your energy body. They both vibrate essentially on sound.

I have had two hour or more OBE sessions before but they require a couple returns to the body in between. There are some experts who claim the two hour OBE trips are an illusion and they are actually much shorter. How certain are you the exit lasted that long? 

Hi Rudolph, yes, difficult to accurately judge time. I was meditating for half an hour and then left my body. I returned to my body about 10am, looked at my watch, two minutes later I was off again, went back to the same level, same town even, but a different part and then did the test with the porcelain figure. When I went back to my chair and looked at my watch it was 10:30am. It felt that the experience was continuous and coherent and I hadn't passed out or gone to sleep or into dream mode. I was fully clear in my head, taking mental notes of everything, analyzing it as I did.

My longest ever projection lasted 6 hours in the late 1970s. I went out at 12am and came back after 6am. The whole excursion was 100% clarity, although I couldn't recall everything, I recalled most of the beginning and most of the end. In between I only remember the events were so over the top and unusual that I questioned during the experience, how I was ever going to remember all that. Several times during this long excursion I went back to my body, because I thought I had died and I was now permanently on the other side, it was so clear, but it also gave me an enormous thrill. It seems the longer you stay in OBE the easier it is to stay there. At that time I thought I had mastered the art permanently living in two different universes, one at night and my usual one during the day. I got very excited the next day, but of course it never happened again to the same extend. It's easy to get carried away when things go well, but then they may not happen for a long time or the interest is no longer there.

MDM, I used your 30 minute trance mp3 and got into a very deep trance last night from a waking state. My body went numb and I started to see flashes of colorful lights and at time what looked like an internet page with a search engine. I have a lot of trouble getting into the trance state from waking, so your mp3 has been the best one I have tried yet. 

Thanks for your feedback on the track, cosmomautt. It's good to learn that my efforts paid off. Have you used the mantra OM chant or any other mantra chant whilst having an OBE? This is what convinced me that the OM in conjunction with the beat would be more successful. My wife uses it now for some of her selected clients as part of her psychotherapy to get them to reconnect.

Hi AJDIN, we are just discussing this on the next forum:
Multidimensional Realities - various OBE phenomena explained:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/multidimensional_realities_various_obe_phenomena_explained-t36302.0.html

OK, after last night's discussion with regard to OBE and Lucid dream I did go out this morning during meditation. Went through the window, but instead of landing in my back garden I was in a new place altogether. I did the usual enhancing technique by looking at the ground, studying the detail etc until I was fully aware. It was still physical reality though, people were walking right through me. I approached one couple with a kid to see if the kid would be aware of me (kids are usually more perceptive) and she responded when I told her that I was "a friendly ghost" and she reported promptly back to her parent, gleefully, but they thought she was just being silly and simply ignored her and carried on with their conversation. Everything else was physical, the cars, the streets, the shops etc.

I then went into OBE meditation to get to a higher level. The next level wasn't very advanced and I started looking around, gathering information, studying the designs etc. There were some ludicrously badly designed cars, fifty's style which made me laugh out loud. Total absence of contemporary design. Everything was a bit naff. I did look out for any dream content but the very decision only made me more aware of the consensus reality. However, I did discover how fluidly OBE and LDs blend. At one stage I saw a slightly oversized porcelain figurine of a ballet dancer, which was beautifully crafted. So I decided to try to bring her to life. I was distinctly using positive energy and the figure grew to life size, started moving and behaving like a real ballerina. She smiled at me and when I smiled back she looked almost like a real person and then she asked me to dance. (I am not the greatest dancer, but I couldn't let the opportunity pass by, so we danced, even danced in the air) At the same time I tried to analyze what was taking place. Did I just momentarily slip into an LD or did I manifest an artificial entity as I have experimented with in the past and written in my book about?

In the end I decided that consciousness doesn't operate on the principle of black and white, but is much more fluid and dynamic, seamlessly blending perceived realities without sacrificing conscious awareness. I think we'll have to get used to the fact that the next dimensional levels are very dynamic environments. I was certain people would have been able to observe me dancing with a living figurine rather than me doing all this in a private remote fantasy in my mind. So we have consensus environments, because I spoke to people, asked whether they could tell that I was an OBE traveler etc and to me they came across as individualized separate entities, in other words, real people. And within this consensus environment I manifested content which could clearly be described as dreamlike.

I was out for two hours and collected other information but these are just the relevant points with regard to the subject.

You say in your video that you have a difficult time Phasing from your meditations? Why do you think this is? When you close your eyes do you see scenery, visions or just the blackness there? I ask that because since I have started Phasing last year twice a day, I can now just close my eyes and see a motion scene in front of me, For some reason it becomes incredibly vivid in the shower. Examples of this, closing my eyes and seeing I am on top of a cliff with Waterfalls all around, or close my eyes and I am in a underground ocean cave, sometimes even with a boat in it.
Is there some kind of chat room or site that you frequent, I would love to chat more , but in real time instead of this delayed chat here? Xanth has a good IRC Channel here.

Lionheart, I have a confession to make. I see OBEs as a minor way of exploring consciousness. The reason I am finding it hard using meditation for OBEs seems to be my lack of interest. Ever since I began meditation forty years ago I only did so to attain clarity about what I was and what the world was all about. OBEs were a by product. I recorded them and then did the book and the website because I thought it was important to map out the wider territories of our reality and consciousness, because we seem to be stuck in the spiritual and mental dark ages. People still believe that when they die there is nothing there. I felt documentation is important. These are our new frontiers, it's like discovering America. We are still a very primitive species, mostly asleep and addicted to our physical senses.

But my main interest lies in the higher states of consciousness, the "HOME" territories, the seat and origin of our consciousness. If you go to my website it's listed under "Super Dimensions" and I feel this is not even the beginning. I feel there is a lot more I need to do and there is little time (nearly didn't make it last year). So I spend most of my meditation time to focus on what I think is important. To me that is awareness full stop.

I would like to chat more, but this is a novelty me spending time on the computer. I am planing to write a book, but its got to be not more dry information and I am focusing on that. Also I still have a 12 hour job working from home as an illustrator. I'll do my best popping in here.
What I've seen here, there is a lot of sound knowledge around, lots of good work and humor. So I'm off to bed now.

Zurgen, what is your view like there? Are you point consciousness, using astral eyes or do you see an entire body form around you? I ask this because there is a lot of times that I feel like I am viewing but only as a pair of eyes. Mind you I don't try to look for a physical body. I hear other people talking about a "silver cord" attaced to them and wonder how they would be able to see that. When in the Astral I can see 360 degrees but never see any object attached to me. If I wish to see something behind me I just change my visual focus, there is no feeling of my head turning to see.

I find it can be either, a point of consciousness like a disembodied pair of eyes or a proper body with a silver cord attached. I find when I am in consensus environment, talking to people or an involved in "rescuing" somebody I tend to have a body like everyone else. I don't know whether anyone of you have noticed when looking at your hands, a technique described by Robert Waggoner and original by Carlos Castaneda that your hand may not be fully formed. I sometime am quite shocked when they look a bit misshapen and only when I stare at them for a while do they gradually appear. The Astral Body seems to be dependent for its existence by some form energy alignment to the environment it operates on. When it is in a limbo state, not attracted to any particular environment or energy it can just be a point of awareness. That's my take anyway.

I don't always succeed in establishing full waking awareness and find myself compelled to follow some ludicrous dream content, getting annoyed that I cannot break through. When this happens I noticed that part of me had become fascinated or seduced by the dream content until I lose interest in becoming OBE. This is always a bit of a problem, but this can also be deceptive.

In one experience I was walking through a cartoon town, with cartoon houses and cartoon people drawn beautifully in black ink and ink-washed with colour. I could see cartoon shops with large cartoon TV sets playing, you guessed it, cartoons. I thought this was totally ludicrous and insane. I figured I was in some kind of lucid dream and didn't know  how to OBE. Then I saw these two normal guys at the end of the cartoon road and they grinned broadly at me, delighting in the fact that I seemed to be "trapped" the cartoon world. When I chatted to them it turned out that they where the designers of this 3d cartoon town and they were illustrator like myself. So I was attracted into their world by affinity. They then proceeded in telling me all about their craft and hobby and I have to say we had a really fantastic exchange of ideas.

I often use such events to gather information. Talking to people is another good way of dispelling dream narrative.

With Lucid Dreams there is usually some form of narrative attached, you are aware that you are dreaming, but you follow some sort of script coming from the subconscious. I have often noticed when using Lucid Dreams as a platform for OBEs by focusing on an object or on the ground until full clarity or waking awareness is established, that the dream narrative disintegrates or dissolves. OBEs take place in consensus environments shared by others. Lucid dreams largely consist of dream content or at least create a dream overlay or a dream projection within the consensus environment. The way I see it is a bit like somebody sitting at a desk in the office supposedly working, but in his mind he may be in a different place altogether. I don't know whether any of you have, but I have come across people during OBEs I identified as sleepers, involved in something else without being present, kind of absent minded.

In Lucid dreams you can get up to all sorts of mischief, in OBEs there are boundaries, usually imposed by other conscious individuals sharing your environment and there are limits to your energies, depending which dimensional level you are operating on. You are no longer almighty. People often report problems with flying, only managing hovering a few feet above the ground etc.

My definition of the difference between a Lucid Dream and an Out-of-Body experience is that in a Lucid Dream you can make love to Angelina Jolie whereas in a OBE she will slap you if your try.

That video was amazing! I am so happy I came across this. You put a lot of clarity into all of this stuff. You said some things that really hit home for me: The idea that creation is happening every moment, and we are active participants.  Was that artwork yours? Those images were absolutely beautiful. 

The artwork that was mine is the animation and some of the later landscapes. They can also be downloaded as wallpaper (free) from my other website here:
http://www.magicfantasyart.com/magicfantasyart.com/Free_Fantasy_World_Wallpapers/Free_Fantasy_World_Wallpapers.html

The Meditation soundtrack can be downloaded here:
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Free_Deep_Meditation_Sounds_-_Binaural_Beats.html

There are two meditation soundtracks on this page. The top one, "OM", contains the OM mantra chant and a shamanic drumbeat combined with binaural beat. The bottom one (red box) is a binaural beat only going into a deeper and deeper phase.

I am very fond of the OM mantra. The reason I made this track was because I discovered when chanting "OM" during OBEs I get into a higher state of consciousness which it is often accompanied by powerful ecstasy.

If you try it during your next OBE I would be curious whether this works for you too.

MDM (Zurgen) I love your site. I use your Binaural Beats almost every day. But am currently testing with a device known as the Laxman. The Laxman is a sound/light machine made in Germany. It is the top of the line in it's class and sells for $499 Euros, you can totally customise it to your own liking. You can write your own programs as well, which is the reason I chose this device over others. I posted a link here to your site for people to find your Binaural Beats a couple of week ago. So far that is the only thing outside of our own natural abilities that I have found to bring constant success. I just received the Laxman 4 days ago and have been getting to know it better. The first day was getting use to the feel of the unit, strap tightness, volume, brightness levels. Last night though it put me completely to sleep, that was the first time I have ever fell completely asleep while Phasing. I was using a deep Delta program on there named "vibrations" and it completely knocked me out. I remember the first 2 minutes, then my mind was a blank. I agree that it would be great for science to somehow trigger a automatic OBE response. I'm sure in some field they already have that, they have been working with Remote Viewing etc. for many years now.
Keep up the great work! 

Lionheart, thanks for the feedback on the soundtrack. Your Laxman sounds similar to the Lucid Light Generator http://www.gesund-im-licht.at/index_skip_e.htm designed by two Austrian scientists and used in some clinics, mainly to help people relax but it often triggers OBEs and STEs (Spiritual Transformative Experiences) as well. Anthony Peake, the author of "Is there Life after Death" used it to get experience of OBEs to write his latest book "The Out of Body Experience: The History and Science of Astral Travel". He told me the device had worked for him. He never had an OBE in his life, but he did with this one. Don't rush out to buy one yet, its rather pricey, but the science behind it sounds sensible. I imagine the next generation of technology might be as simple as a next generation iPad app, and an iPad with a more powerful LED screen, mounted on a stand perhaps 8 inches away from your eyes (eyes closed). Sony also have developed a 3D vision headset, which could perhaps be used running Lucid light Generator software.

Progress has also been made after scientists localized the area of the brain activated during lucid dreaming. This is very promising. I am still planning a more effective way of using the binaural beats in combination with designed music with the help of a composer friend, who currently writes movie scores. I can foresee that in the not too distant future the Games industry might even get hold of this. Whether this is a good thing, judging by the high level of violent game content, is another question. But who knows, people might develop and appetite for STEs. After all what can be more rewarding?

Another technique, which is much cheaper, relies on our sun. With your eyes closed sit on a deck chair facing the sun. Do your meditation. Observe the light falling though your closed eyelids, but link it mentally to your "inner light" with a powerful feeling of surrendering to it, rising from your heart chakra. Keep it short and avoid the midday sun so you don't fall victim to the tomato syndrome. Use factor 50 sun shield for this.

We'll just have to remind ourselves that most of the pioneering work is done here on this and other forums by people devoting time to explore their inner space and at the same time discovering who they really are.

Thank you Ryan, I agree, the thin dividing line between LD and OBE is often only a shift of focus or losing the dream narrative.

[Institute of Neuroscience and Consciousness Study]

I haven't posted for a while, but I recently gave a presentation via Skype to the Institute of Neuroscience and Consciousness Study exploring different levels of consciousness and many OBE phenomena, some of which may be familiar and others not so. I hope it will also serve as a bit of a road map.

OBEs are receiving more attention now from the scientific community as demonstrated in this talk with regard to its audience. Hopefully penetration into Consciousness Research may perhaps even lead towards developing mechanical means for obtaining OBEs, given the right funding.

As I pointed out in the video there is great value in forums such as this one, for harvesting data in order to establish a consensus of some of the phenomena widely experienced and reported. So I am always very curious if any of you can confirm similar experiences, to establish an element of validity via statistical frequency. So keep posting, reporting and discussing.

If you have any further questions regarding this talk, please respond to this thread and we can all discuss here if you like.

Here is the video: http://vimeo.com/35800793. Thanks for watching.

For further, more detailed information you can find the link to my website here: http://www.multidimensionalman.com

Thanks very much, Jurgen

OBEs without OBEs? - Further Explorations of our multidimensional universe using a direct projection method for entering higher states of consciousness and Super Dimensions.

It's been a while, but I thought I'd just inform the group of a new section to the "Super Dimensional" part of my website for discussion. These don't involve traditional OBE methods (sleep paralysis, waking awareness, projection and recall). Its more a question of deep meditation, making use of the Jungean archetypes and, unfortunately, relying to a degree on good luck. This new development made me almost lose interest in Astral projection. This is a powerful state of consciousness which results in a rich harvest of new information and, quite literally, out-of-this-world experiences.

Eventually we will all have to look beyond the Astral levels. The time is right to storm ahead. We are just putting to rest that E=mc². Scientists have to concede that the existence of higher dimensions are now an inevitability. We have been saying this for years. This should encourage us to storm further ahead, share our findings and inspire each other (and still be critical).

Here is my new section: http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Super_dimensions-consensus_environments.html

Thanks to all who have been following this thread and posted your comments, Jurgen

PS. I also gave a talk on this subject, but it was before the above new event which can be viewed here if anybody is interested:
http://www.vimeo.com/26993275
Thanks all!

MDM, when are you gonna update The Super Dimensions on your website??!

I'm yearning with much anticipation 

Finally, after an eventful five months, I finally managed to dig deeper into consciousness and I hope this will widen the discussion. Would be great to hear from people who went into similar territories. Here is the link to my reports (2 pages), appropriately illustrated, I thought, by the Slovenian artist Damir: http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Higher_Mental_Planes_or_Heaven_Worlds.html

I hope you'll enjoy it.

I have always wanted to know this since practicing and reading into AP, also i know that the scenes around you evolve depending on your thoughts, so for example I'm sort of fascinated by dinosaurs so would this mean if i was 100% aware in the astral would I be able to encounter things such as T-Rex and see what they was really like?

I know it sounds stupid but I'm really curious.

I found an interesting website which may answer your question. The guy has two free books you can download as PDFs. One is called: "Ultimate Yoga by Michael RADUGA" and on Page 36 he describes exactly what you may be looking for and how he stared into the eye of a T-Rex. Here is the link to his website:http://books.obe4u.com/. It's the book with the red sun and 2012 written on it. Quite interesting. He also shows videos of techniques, but I haven't tried.

I've put together a website too which tries to give a comprehensive description of the astral plane, based on my journals collected over the last 40 years if you are interested. It's the "life after death" section, consisting of 6 parts so far. This is all work in progress http://www.multidimensionalman.com and as people here suggested, the place is infinite.

The way Michael Raguda describes it sounds as if he got there via the Akashic Records.