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Hi everyone!  

It seems like its became very easy to know when I'm in the non-physical (dreaming not OBE's).  Has anyone also has this experience after practicing OBE's for awhile?  It seems the more I dream and have OBE's the more I realize I'm dreaming because it doesn't feel anything like an OBE.  Before I had my first OBE it was super hard for me to break from the dream scene or realize I was dreaming at all.  Now it seems I can see the dreams forming around me before I go to sleep.

My most recent example was a few nights ago I took a small 35 minute nap.  I wasn't trying to have an OBE but I was definitely open to the possibility.  Usually when I want to have an OBE I simply stay aware and wait and feel the "quiet spot".    

I was laying in bed, ready to fall asleep but I didn't feel that quiet spot.  Instead it was like my non-physical body was just waiting for me to make a move.   I started to feel like a liquid puddle of a human laying in my bed.  I could see a fuzzy outline of what my room looks like although it was all brown tinted (probably because I was thinking of the door which is brown).

I began to think about leaving this puddle and I could feel my thoughts forming into something I could transfer into and control.  Its funny because I know my thoughts are more real than my physical body in this world so of course I could leave my body with this technique.

I was slowly moving towards the door in this smoke form when I asked for clarity.  Although clarity wasn't that great after the request so I tried it again and still the same thing.  I had more control but it still felt like a dream.  

I opened my door and saw a room full of children.  I wasn't very interested in them for some reason so I closed the door.  I opened it up again and the children still remained although this time they seemed to be more agressive looking.  

I flew past the children and through the wall which brought me to what I feared most, the ocean.  I flew high up in the sky and blasted downward into the ocean.   Everything was fine until I thought of something huge coming from under me about to swallow me whole.    The weird thing is usually in my dreams I don't feel as pure, I feel too human and my human emotions usually get the best of me.  Such as fear and destruction.  Once I felt the mouth coming around me I let out a super sonic wave which destroyed everything and I woke up feeling like I didn't handle that situation very well.

Its got me super excited though as it seems like dreams are just going to be another chance to OBE

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Hi everyone!

Super weird experience lastnight.   I was having a dream and I wasn't lucid I don't think.  It was almost like I was just following the dream but in the dream I was actually trying to have an OBE.  My surroundings were very metal and dark, almost like I was in an underground city that got blown apart years before.  I had some people with me although I didn't know who they were but continued to follow the dream out.   

I soon found myself upon this huge metal scrap and the lady also next to me.  She bent over like she was going to pray and I laid on her back as if this was the natural thing to do.   I then closed my eyes and the best way to describe it is I was letting my non-physical reach out of my body.  I remember thinking, OH wow this is so easy! I found a way to get to the vibrational state in a few seconds just by letting my non-physical reach out.  I could visually see some mist reaching out of my body and as soon as the mist reached out I could instantly feel the vibrations although they were less powerful than I felt in the physical.  I didn't go anywhere I was just impressed I could feel the vibrations so fast and so easy in this state of consciousness. 

I then repeated this about 4 times to make sure this technique was solid.  After the 4th attempt failed I then realized I was actually dreaming already.  I still feel this wasn't an OBE because once the vibrations went away I was still in the same spot.  I then wanted to see how different a lucid dream was to an OBE.  I requested clarity and the clarity I got was pretty good but nothing compared to what I experienced during an OBE. 

I then knew someone was in the far distance that I wanted to see and I started running super fast (which is also something I never do in the astral).  In the astral I'm always flying and I dont' run, I simply teleport to where I want to go.  I also noticed I'm not as aware in the lucid dreams.  Even after asking for clarity things seem disconnected and my attention can't  focus on more than one thing.  While in the astral I can focus on everything and it feels REAL where a lucid dream feels like a dream although the surroundings are very similar (meaning you can do whatever you want).  I recall the feeling of going through the steel walls and it feeling just like it does in the astral.   Once I met the person I wanted to see sex occurred which is also something I never do in the astral either as I get this feeling of pureness. So sex never even comes into my mind as I feel its a waste of time and something I wouldn't want to do.  I then got transported into another crazy dream and woke up for work.

I honestly don't care to put terms on my experiences but this was the first time I could actually tell the difference since I now can compare with my OBEs. 

So to summarize, the differences I noticed:
LUCID
1.  Clarity isn't as good, even after requesting
2.  Form of transportation is more human (although It can be changed of course)
3.  Sexual desires still are there

OBE
1.  Clarity is amazing, you can zoom up on anything and everything
2.  Floating all the time without thinking about it, teleporting if I need to go somewhere
3.  No desire of sex, just a feeling of pureness
4.  A feeling that time is running (probably because I feel like I'm going to go back to my physical)
5.  Feels like a real experience, and I recall everything very easily

Hi everyone,

I've never really thought of myself as a spiritual person until after I had my first OBE.   Now I view myself as a complete energy being trapped inside a biological vehicle.  Ever since I made this mental switch from a physical being to an energy being its seemed to have unlocked some interesting things.

For example, I've always had a feeling of sensing emotions around me even if I can't see the persons facial expression.  This feeling increases dramatically if I'm smoking marijuana.  After I concluded that I wasn't my physical body at all but in fact an energy being all these feelings of energy increased beyond anything I've ever felt before. 

The best way to explain it is if you felt slight internal vibrations and you then requested to increase these vibrations.  The vibrations are different from the feeling I get when I'm about to go into the non-physical.  The vibrations I feel when I'm about to exit are more external.  I can feel for example a high frequency ball of energy above my chest.  But these vibrations I'm feeling now are deep inside me.   I can get to the point where I no longer feel my body at all but I only feel like a ball of energy and if I'm sitting up I could fall forward so its best done when laying down. 

An even more exciting change I discovered was a weird intuition of what a person is thinking.  This although isn't mind reading, its more like if someone wants to express something without saying it I feel what they want a few seconds before they actually verbally tell me.  I've only experienced this with my one roommate so I'm not sure why its linked to her and no one else.  I have a hard time enjoying peoples company especially if I view them as a possible partner after awhile.  I like to think of myself as a very carefree person who doesn't allow much stress or negative thoughts to enter my mind or if they do they simply pass by.  I think this is why I dislike relationships so much as its much harder to just let negative thoughts go away if they are coming from your significante other.  I wonder if my feelings towards her influences these experiences of feeling her thoughts sometimes. 

I'm not sure what it is but it feels like I finally know my true self and before it was almost like someone behind a mask waiting to be let out.   

The only questionable part is I'm afraid I may overload my senses and cause a seizure.  Is it possible to induce a seizure on yourself by overloading your brain with stimulus?  I almost felt like I was going to pass out because I was requesting more and more stimulus and it would increase accordingly.  Once I felt like I've increased it too much, I asked myself to balance out again which lowered the vibrations and I could feel my body again. 

A part of me wants to see what happens when I don't limit the energy but another part makes me feel like it may overload my physical body. 

Anyone else have any similar experiences or can give some guidance?

 

Hi everyone!

So I've lately been having some interesting experiences with my roommate.  She never had any OBE's and doesn't really believe in any of it but I tell her my stories anyways.  Well the first night I had my first real OBE the next night she was thinking something and I a split second before she said something I was already pointing at what she was wanting I was like wait, did I just read your mind?

It wasn't like I heard her thoughts but it was like her anticipation to express what she wanted was already in my mind.

After this I didn't really think much of it but then we both took some substances a few nights ago and there was no question we could sense each others emotions.  For example I was outside in the yard and I felt confusion and panic but I knew it wasn't my own feelings as I was loving my current surroundings so I immediately rolled into the room and she was freaking out because she had no idea how to type, I laughed and took the keyboard from her.   She then even brought up that idea that we are sharing thoughts. 

I feel we can tap into senses such as feeling people around you without opening your eyes in the physical (on substances) it seems to be even more enhanced.  I recall closing my eyes completely and knowing exactly where she was in the room and we did some experiments which worked as if my eyes were open the whole time.  Its like I could see an energy field of life around her but couldn't see details with my eyes closed.

Any ideas on this?   

I was wondering is there a time limit on how long you can be in the vibrational state?   I just had another experience where I had a sense someone was near me and I welcomed that feeling which turned into intense vibrations on my chest which usually occurs.  But when I'm in this state I usually have the feeling like my time is limited to go from vibrations to actually exiting my body.

The more I focus on the vibrations the stronger they get but theres always a sense that I have to hurry up and get out of my body before the vibrations stop which results in a less successful exit. 

The whole day I felt out of it, but I wasn't sure why.  When I came back from
work I fired up the hookah, music, and continued to read my book on outer body
experiences.  I was at an exciting chapter which was going over how to exit
your body once you're at the vibrational state.  This state is usually where I
get stuck although I always feel my lower body instantly floating above my
physical body.   Its my upper body which seems to be the most difficult to get
into my astral body.  I come across a technique where once you are in the
vibrational state you can simply make a direct request.    I stop reading here
and got ready for the gym.

Once I'm dressed and ready to go I feel the urge to take a small 20 minute
nap.  I also thought this would be great chance to see if I can get into the
vibrational state  again and try this new technique to get out of my physical
body and actualy have a successful projection.

I laid on my bed, super relaxed, and very comfortable which is usually not the
case.  As I lay there I don't try to think to hard about OBEs. I just attempt
to clear my mind and let my  body completely relax.  I soon fell asleep but
luckily I set my alarm for 20 minutes.  The first alarm goes off and I wake up
not realizing I feel asleep at all but I still didn't feel refreshed so I  put
it on snooze and 5 minutes later it goes off again.  This time I set the alarm
for 45 minutes. I immediately go back into my relaxed state but this time my
mind was thinking about something and without  me realizing I find myself
talking to my Swiss roommate.  She is telling me how I shouldn't be spending
all my money the way I do and I'm telling her, who is she to tell me how I
should live my life while my other roommate isn't saying a word as we exchange
viewpoints on life.  I soon wake up from this dream and I find myself back in
my bed, relieved it was just a dream.  Ain't no one got time for that.

As I'm laying in bed waiting to fall back asleep I immediately feel the "quiet
state" where I usually feel a dark presence approaching me or already touching
me.  I read in the book if you feel anything at all in the quiet state you
should welcome and encourage it.  This is exactly what I did and it turned
this fear into an amazing high frequency energy ball above my chest (where I
usually feel it) and I feel my lower body already out in its non-physical
form.  I'm super excited although I'm still having issues getting my upper
body out into my non-physical.  I soon recall reading that I can simply direct
my intention to leave this room completely.  I struggle for what seems less
than 30 seconds and then I told myself I want to get out of this room and go
somewhere else.  The strange part was I didn't think of where I want to go but
I instantly found myself floating in a large stone room.  The ceilings were
very high and darkish gray in color although I could see them clearly as if
they weren't that far at all.  I also noticed there was a light peach boarder
running across the upper part of the stone ceiling which had some black
looking egyptian hieroglyphics inside although I didn't pay much attention to
the details as I was so excited that I was floating and completely aware of my
surroundings.  The whole room felt peaceful and safe.   I soon asked for
clarity as I felt my vision getting a little blurry and instantly my vision
was super charged.  I could see every little detail in my hands and everything
looked more beautiful than I've ever experienced in the physical world.

I then tested out flying around for a while, zooming deep down as this room
had no floors.  When I wanted to go downward, I just requested mentally to fly
down.  I felt a feeling of going inward at a very fast velocity.  I then flew
directly upwards to my original position.  I would almost call it teleporting
more than flying.

I then wondered what I should do next.  I was so excited as the possibilities
were limitless.  I read about another traveler explaining all the complexities
of  energy systems in the non-physical so I closed my eyes and asked to see
the inner source of everything. For some reason I had doubt in my mind and was
somewhat scared of what I may discover.  Was I ready for such a vision?  The
traveler said he took years before he discovered the vast energy systems of
our existence.  I opened my eyes and I was still in the same location.  I then
thought about going to saturn so I asked to go to saturn but again, nothing
happened.

After I woke up I knew exactly what I did wrong. I had doubt and I really
didn't put much intent behind my request.  I simply said what I wanted but I
really didn't put all my energy into my request.  I thought about flying which
seemed easy so I thought transporting to a different non-physical plane would
also be this simple.  I now know that if I really want something every part of
me has to believe and know it will happen.

I then attempted something simpler.  I wanted to have a floor so I thought of
creating my own.   I imagined a pretty cobble stone floor with an archway and
before my eyes the cobble stone floor and archway evolved. The archway was
full of green moss and vines which was pleasant to look at but I knew my time
was limited so I didn't spend much time looking at my creation.   I was still
floating so I didn't walk on the floor but as I watched the floor come alive
something caught my eye, a chest! Before I even told myself I wanted to go to
that chest I was instantly in front of it. I started to loose focus and I
again requested clarity  which gave me extraordinary vision once again.

I wanted to look at what was inside the chest but as soon as I was about to
open it I felt my physical body calling me, almost like a small tug.  I
attempted to rub my hands together which I thought would groud my experience
and keep me from returning to my physical body but instead I was snapped back
into my body.  I felt super energized and alive!  I laid in bed for a few
minutes glowing with happiness and recalling my experience.  As soon as I was
done, I jumped in my wheelchair and told my roommate about my experience.  I
sounded like a small child who just had a very magical moment.   After this
experience I still feel different, almost like I've evolved as a person.
This single experience has super charged my desire to continue to discover the
unknown.

Hi everyone,

7 years ago I was in a car wreck and which broke my neck which resulted in me being was paralyzed from the chest down.  Since then I've been able to get my right leg to move on demand almost like normal but very weak and also some of my trunk control back.

Before I started to get into astral projection I was into lucid dreaming due to my childhood experiences with sleep paralysis and having fearful things come near me and interact with my body.  Since then I realized I shouldn't be afraid of these feelings but embrace them which leads me to this weird experience:

Yesterday I was laying in the morning and not realizing it I awoke finding my lower body feeling as if it was floating above my body but only HALF my body was floating, which was the paralyzed half from the chest down.  It felt like there was a string attached to my ankles and was pulling me upward but I was grounded by my upper body which was feeling this amazing high frequency vibration which felt amazing. 

I tried to focus on the vibrations and make it encompass my whole body but I got to excited and attempted to roll out which led to complete darkness.  This wasn't 3d darkness though, it was just dark and I couldn't mold the environment with my mind so I may have woke myself up from getting too excited from the feelings of vibrations. 

The most interesting part of the experience was the fact my paralyzed part of my body was instantly in "astral body" without even having to try.

Hi everyone,

I've just recently started studying OBE's and reading peoples experiences and it reminds me of lucid dreaming.  After studying lucid dreams it seems like people are mixing and matching their experiences with OBE's/Lucid dreaming.  Some even say you can go into a OBE from a lucid dream.  Now this makes me wonder are you really having an OBE or a lucid dream?

To ground yourself in a lucid dream you rub your hands together, tell yourself to see clearly if its not clear, you can fly, float, etc.  In a lucid dream you can also conjure up helpers, go to different planes of reality, whatever you think will happen, just like they say in OBE's.

So how do you know your in an OBE and not a lucid dream?  The one difference I do see though is some say when they roll out of their bodies they are in their rooms seeing themselves laying there.  But from a short read it seems like this is just the starting point of your journey just like a lucid dream, you start somewhere interesting or uninteresting and then you can literally plant a seed and close your eyes and imagine a place you want to go and when you open your eyes your there. 

Hi everyone,

I was curious if you had any recommend sound tracks to listen to when trying to have an OBE.  I've had lots of SP experiences in the past so I know what feeling I'm looking for but I just need help triggering it more often.  For some reason I could always get weird sensations that things are near me, breathing on me, even getting physical with me (pushing me down on my bed/moving my body into a different position) but as soon as I mentally told myself that these things can't hurt me and its just in my head it all stopped so I'm trying to get it back after I discovered this is a nice starting point to get an OBE.

I've been reading and lots of people mention to visualize something when you are relaxing to help you ignore the vibrations/sounds, does anyone have any recommended sound tracks to listen too to help you get to the vibration stage?  Also what should you be trying to visualize?  I also have synesthesia which I think I can use as an advantage as any music I hear it will naturally create an image in my head without me having to actively think about anything, so its almost like a music video that is created on the fly by the music itself and I'm just observing what it creates.

Can I simply just let the music draw the picture for me or am I suppose to be actually mentally trying to visualize a location or doing something physical?  The images produced by sound are usually abstract in nature such as orbs/vectors/colors unless I actively try to transform them into something  non-abstract. 


Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forum but have had numerous SPs ever since I was a child and now as well (27) which got me into lucid dreaming and now I'm interested in OBE's.  I was reading this thread: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/the_vehram_system_is_truly_brilliant-t29333.0.html  and its got me interested in purchasing the book although I can't seem to find it anywhere.  The link supplied is now someones website ((vehram.com)). 

Does anyone know where I can purchase this e-book?

Thanks!