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Had several OBE's last night all going to the same place. It was like i kept getting brought another planet. I've always struggled opening my eyes, and found it difficult to see. I was in another world, thought based, and everyone seemed really chill. Except there was a group of several beings that brought me there. They say they brought me there to teach me. But I could barely see without opening my real eyes and my neck muscles wouldn't hold my head up straight. Over a couple hours I got my eyes to open, sometimes only one at a time. They were explaining to me that there were other me's in other worlds, and that the other me's health could directly impact my health, and vice versa. I asked them what the hell they were talking about. Something about a certain gene expresion that's been found in their world. Then they started listing changes in habits I should make like not eating sweets, but I don't eat sweets. I eat completely healthy. I actually ended all of my bad habits some time ago, aside from negative thought patterns from trauma that I still have some to clear.

They actually didn't seem very helpful at all, and I found it difficult to concentrate with the issues I was having that they didn't care about. They said that there was or had been another me in their world, and one of them had a particular problem with me/him. They all had distinct personalities with a lot of detail, but since I was getting frustrated i flew off. I ended up causing some havoc in that world. Not really intentionally but I think my naturally curiosity combined with irritation and a desire to be mischievous brought that about. Then I came to.

I was originally listening to a recording of sound healing via tuning forks, working through incoherent parts of my biofield. But at some point in a particular recording it would bring me into this theta/delta state of deep relaxation. And from there I would OBE, sometimes multiple times in 1 hour. I was struggling to maintain everything so it took many attempts to get to where I could see and stay in that plane for awhile. Not really sure what this was, but this recording is awesome.
#2
Link to the specific text and an explanation of the translation:
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-35052.htm#3.52

Interpretation of the Sanskrit:
3.52 When invited by the celestial beings, no cause should be allowed to arise in the mind that would allow either acceptance of the offer, or the smile of pride from receiving the invitation, because to allow such thoughts to arise again might create the possibility of repeating undesirable thoughts and actions.

Explanation of the translation:
Declining celestial invitations: As discrimination becomes increasingly finer, the levels of the subtle realm are experienced, including encounters with the disembodied or celestial beings. They might invite the sadhaka (practitioner) with the experiences of the subtle realm. These invitations, experiences, or powers are distractions, which block (1.4) the realization of the true Self (1.3), which is beyond all experiences. Therefore, the invitations are declined in a spirit of non-attachment (1.15), as are the other subtle experiences (3.38).


I was listening to talks by Sadhguru, and after some time based on my own experiences, I came to the conclusion he is almost certainly enlightened, or a self-realized human being. Because pretty much everything he was saying was resonating with me, I decided to research  his methods of enlightenment. This led me to the Yoga Sutras. Previously I had merely been using my own adaptation of Vipassana for self-inquiry. I reached different states of awareness that I simply didn't have the vocabulary for, but when I started reading explanations of the Yoga Sutras it was like they laid out precisely what it was I have experienced in a way I've never seen.

I believe that at one point some months ago, after a few days of intensive meditation, I came to what they refer to in Yoga as Bindu. The Absolute, end of experience, the point which the present moment springs from. I came to a state of awareness where it felt like everything that was left of my individuality was about to disappear into the abyss, like I was falling into a void with no sensation left to observe, leaving only pure awareness. But I had a knee jerk reaction of fear, almost like a fear of death, which snapped me out of it before I was able to experience it.

I say this because this experience seemed to be well passed the state one achieves with AP. This combined with all of my other experiences echoing what I've read in the Sutras, it seems it would be absurd to dismiss the passage above. I'm wondering what you all think, is AP merely a distraction from deeper states of awareness, keeping us from knowing our true selves? It seems some of the members here have already come to the conclusion that AP should take a backseat or not be actively pursued, I wonder if there is any correlation.
#3
Yesterday I had what felt like a breakthrough with my meditation, a successful step forward. Once I went to sleep I had a series of dreams, my last being me as a pregnant woman, at the hospital getting ready to have a c-section (which as a man was quite interesting). I'm not sure if any of this is relevant but I will say it just in case.

After I woke up from this dream, I laid looking at my ceiling, processing what I had experienced. As I did I felt energy within my abdomen, about as wide around as a small hand. This energy felt very unique compared to energies I've experienced before, such as the energy I feel surging through me throughout the day, or the rush of energy before an OBE. It felt very light, soothing, and I could feel what I would imagine the CO2 bubbles that come to the surface of soda that pop would feel like if they pop inside your body, something like 5 to 10 bubbles popping every second within the space of a small hand. It was very enjoyable.

Then this feeling began to move across my body slowly, making it's way to the center of my chest and stopping there for a few seconds. Thinking maybe it had something to do with the position I was laying I rolled over to my side. It stopped for a few seconds, but then I felt this pressing of energy in the middle of my forehead. It stayed there for some time, then move to my left eye, and then to my right. After it paused there for sometime, I decided to get up to make some food. As soon as I got up to move around it stopped.

It felt very gentle, loving, even healing. My question is, could this have been an AP'er or some other entity in the Astral? I'm sensitive to my energetic body even when awake, and I think this might be the only reason I even felt it, but I was without a doubt awake, with my eyes open this entire time.

Would love to hear any insight one may have.
#4
Last night I was laying down to go to sleep, and as I started to relax more I heard a very loud high pitch sound for a few seconds. Much louder than the whistling sound one might hear from meditation or tinnitus. The closest thing I can compare it to would be what I'd imagine you hear after a flashbang, it was so loud I couldn't focus on anything but the sound. It stopped once I became less relaxed, but as soon as I  tried to get asleep again it happened again, and this went on a few times.

Finally I gave in and sat through it figuring it could be OBE related, but as I did I felt an almost jerky shift into a certain state of awareness, almost like something was intentionally pulling me into a certain vibration. Things became fuzzy at this point, but the first thing I can remember was walking through a lobby on a middle floor of a skyscraper. I had a mask on of a young woman, and some of the people around me also had different masks on, like it was commonplace. As I was walking through someone started insulting people wearing masks, and it seems like they were trying to shame us. It seemed choreographed, like they were trying to make me uncomfortable enough to continue through the area, and I did.

I went up an elevator to a new floor, and came to a screen. When I stared at the screen my consciousness moved into the screen, in a way that all I could experience was the screen, and no body. It was pretty negative, but it seemed like it was trying to convey something that was just beyond my understanding. Occasionally though, an ad would show up, with a list of names and website addresses. I thought maybe if I could read one of these website names I could use that to search up something of use afterwards, but it was all out of focus. I put everything I could into sharpening my view but at best it started looking granular, where I could make out some letters, but not enough to go off of.

I stayed here trying to find some use out of what was happening, but after awhile I heard a voice speak to me within my mind, scolding me to continue on, and not to get stuck here again. Something ended up forcing me back to my body, but I was being very resistant. I was staying in the room pretty confused, but determined to figure out what was going on. I was being told to leave the room, but I refused. Then the temperature of the room was raised into the 100's. I was miserably hot and started to fill sick with a headache. Even that wasn't enough to break me, so then I started hearing an assortment of stressful sounds. Car horns, police sirens, metal being grinded, etc, all at the same time. It made it pretty much impossible to focus, and it felt like it was all being used to make the experience so unbearable that I would essentially surrender my free will by continuing on.

At this point I had had enough, so I decided to return to my body. But when I tried to open my eyes, nothing happened. I tried to lift my arm up which is my last trick to come out but nothing. There has only been a couple times in my life where I couldn't force myself out of sleep paralysis, dreams, etc, and I can count it on one hand. And the better I've gotten at coming out of it the less it's happened. So I was trapped, and it definitely felt like something was holding my consciousness there. Since I had no out I decided to see it through and went over to the next room.

When I got into the next room, the sounds stopped, but the uncomfortable and confused state I was in stayed, and it seems like this was used as a pressure to keep me not at my top state of alertness, but that's just a guess. It was a kitchen, and there were 2 older women standing behind an island. I came up to the opposite side of it and tried to ask them what was happening to me, but when I did it was like I could barely get the words out, something I've experienced before in other situations. It was like I just couldn't find the air to activate my vocal chords.

They told me we've already been through this before, and I had this intuitive sense that I had experienced this same process at least once before. This whole experience felt like it had been going on for hours, and I couldn't even remember the beginning of it, almost like I was coming out of anesthetics. So one of them asked me to try some cereal she had made for me, and pushed it over to me. It was heavily processed and so I said I was ok, but they both became very angry. So angry, the malevolent intent was oozing from them. They had this good cop bad cop routine going, and one of them said I should definitely eat it because the other one had made it just for me. I insisted I was ok because I was lactose intolerant, even though for some reason I didn't make the connection that it was irrelevant here. Then the lady who made it lunged at me while the other held her back.

Knowing I was trapped here I decided I would neutralize the situation by eating one bite. As soon as I swallowed it, I came back to my bed. I was abnormally calm coming to given what had happened, and even during the ordeal never became afraid. I did however develop an aversion to the suffering I was experiencing. But other than that, I'm not totally sure what to make of the experience. I don't know if I should've held my ground in defiance to risk being "hurt" over a bowl of cereal, or if taking the diplomatic approach like I did was the "correct" move.

I can't remember ever dealing with an experience remotely like this before, but it all seemed staged. The entire experience felt like I was being led down a path and any time I broke away from the script, I was essentially tortured until I conceded. When all of the obnoxious sounds were going off, I thought about sitting down to meditate to completely refuse to engage in any of the theatrics, but ended up not doing so.

Any clue into what the heck happened here?  :?
#5
So I woke up from a dream a bit ago and could feel something trying to pull me into the astral. Every time I get this feeling it's always some kind of test. So I allowed it as I wanted to confront whatever it was. So this being took on the appearance of an overweight older man. It tried to weave a false story of me being a member of it's family with the proposed family also just a lie. I was lying down and not facing it, it told me to turn around. I turned slightly towards it but not completely, because I felt the need to be defiant.

It then went on this tirade about me needing to do something and how my actions were affecting this false family. It wasn't making much sense. It became extremely angry. Up until this point I had remained calm, but then it started moving closer and getting louder. I started to feel a slight fear for about 1 second, then resolved to revert back to calm. It then got so close that it was literally pressing against me, and with all the yelling I could feel it's breath on my neck.

I didn't mean to, but I actually started to get irritated. I reached up and put my hand over it's mouth. I started getting a rush of energy onto the palm of my hand. It became extremely hot, and felt almost like the vibrations on my hand, except maybe 10x stronger. It started reaching the point of being painful, and the best way I could describe it is what it would feel like to leave your hand on a running jackhammer for a few minutes.

So I understood what was happening, and knew that this thing was trying to get under my skin. So I brought myself back to focus, and after about 10 seconds, although this being was still ramping up, I started to feel the vibrations all over. They got almost to the intensity of my first OBE, but then it all stopped and I came back to the physical.

My hand was still having this intense feeling of energy on my palm side, and was borderline painful. Even now as I'm typing this my hand is still cooling down. My temperature as a whole was quite elevated, as I was sweating upon coming to. This seems to happen when anything AP related goes on for me.

So I'm not really sure if me getting the vibrations but not breaking through was me failing or means something else? Nonetheless it was a pretty intense experience and completely unexpected.
#6
I was meditating earlier as the sun was rising, laying down listening to the HemiSync MetaMusic. I didn't notice a break in the music, but I had opened my eyes and looked into a bag that was sitting next to where I slept. There was a cockroach in it and so I killed it, but the thing is that this bag was about 5 feet away from where it actually was in the physical, although I didn't realize it at the time.

So I laid back down and began meditating again, with the music still playing. I started become fairly focused and stillminded, then I started floating out of my body. But here's another peculiar thing, although I did notice a slight shift, I didn't feel that strong vibratory experience as I had when I was without a doubt awake the first OBE I had.

After floating around the room for a short time, I attempted to open my eyes (this is where my first OBE ended), but something even more peculiar had happened. I saw what appeared to be both my OBE vision, and either my physical vision or dream vision overlayed over one another. It was like watching a movie with a projection getting played over the top of it. After a couple seconds I shut my eyes to try again, but I think I somehow broke the connection. When I opened my eyes again I was back in the physical, with the music still playing.

This was honestly pretty confusing, so I looked at the music track (which is set to repeat after finishing it's 50 minute set, and it appears I did lose some time. Maybe about 30 to 40 minutes.

Any ideas on what happened here?  :?
#7
I have a fairly good memory of my dreams, sometimes remembering multiple dreams a night. And one thing that seems to be happening pretty frequently is dreams that seem like what my life would be like if their was a different choice or choices made by either me or someone in my life that would affect me. I have dreams of vastly different experiences from my own, but these stick out because they seem so similar.

For example, I had one dream where it appeared I didn't move like I did in this life when I was a child. The dream started with me waking up in my childhood house, except I was much older, maybe around the same age I was when I had the dream. Except it seems like I had severely damaged my brain with the use of psychedelics. So much so it was extremely hard to hold a cohesive train of thought for longer than a few seconds. My vision was completely distorted with everything moving like a living Picasso painting, and there were patterns overlaying everything. I was woken up by a family member, and I couldn't even remember what day it was or the fact that I had damaged my brain. I was like a person that forgets what happened a few seconds after the fact. They looked at me with this heartbreaking degree of disappointment, saying that my mom had been waiting for me for a long time in the other room. I couldn't even really function enough to get to her. I became overwhelmed with shame and guilt, and then I woke up.

It appears that by staying in my considerably bad neighborhood and combining the suffering and neglect I had experienced as a child with the bad influences around me, I just wasn't able to cope with my life and resorted to abusing drugs to an extreme level.

And I've several dreams like this, that were similar enough to make it seem entirely plausible that these were views into parallel realities. I feel like there is truth to it right down to my core. And if that's the case, these experiences are overwhelmingly negative. I once had a being (and the method of communication will remain undescribed at this time), that explained to me the nature of parallel universes, and that they exist right outside of our own universal all being connected to each other. And as this being explained this to me, I had several circles start opening up in my vision, as they got larger I saw that they were what looked like mirror images of the room I was currently in. And what it seemed like to me is that the closest realities to our own are extremely similar, with just slight variations which leads to a different outcome. I don't know if there was truth to this experience with objective certainty, but it felt like an extremely intelligent being was conveying this to me in a rudimentary way so that I could slightly comprehend it. Call that being a higher dimensional being, higher self, God, or whatever works for you, but it seemed to speak from the heart.

If this at least a somewhat correct interpretation of these experiences, then I have suffered immensely over many lifetimes, and I would also find it likely that given the life I've had that it was very likely for anything remotely similar to have gone as bad or much worse than my current life has. I'm wondering if this is true, what is the point of showing me this dreams? To let me know that I should be grateful for the way my life has turned out? Or maybe something deeper?

Has anyone had experiences like this?
#8
I hadn't really started researching OBE's until after this experience I had a week or so ago, so I'm sorry if it's hard to follow.

For some context, I started dreaming lucidly when I was 7 before I knew the name for what I was doing. As I've gotten older I've started having the occasional sleep paralysis, and it isn't uncommon as soon as I start falling to sleep, to shift into something in between a dream and being awake with what seems to be a lower vibrational entity/thoughtform. I can move unlike with paralysis, but I can sometimes feels intense malevolent presence, the beings usually talk to me, and sometimes it seems they are overwhelmed with lust.

My point is, that I've been having nonphysical interactions for some time, but it's just something that has developed naturally.

So a week ago I woke up from sleep around 2:30am. This is close to the times where if I do go back to sleep I'll usually have an encounter with an entity so I decided to stay awake and meditate instead. I started becoming extremely focused unusually quickly. Throughout the day I always feel energy moving through me, as if my nerves are being activated with pleasure as it moves around. The energy when I enter deep meditation becomes more intense and seems to be coming from an outside source, seemingly from my lower back. I then started hearing noises of physical objects being moved around me, and high pitched sounds.

I started feeling this presence around me, as if someone was there that I couldn't see. It's a feeling I sometimes get when I encounter an entity, so the last time I got this sensation during meditation fear knocked me out of focus.

This time though, I completely surrendered to the experience and pushed on with the intention of learning more. The energy I felt was intensifying and beginning to cover my whole body. It became so intense that I felt like I was physically pulsating/vibrating. It felt like I was having what I could best describe as an orgasm over my entire body, and a few seconds later it stopped. I started floating upwards out of my chair until I hit the ceiling. I couldn't see, and when I tried to open my eyes I accidentally opened my physical eyes. I closed my eyes again and within a couple minutes began floating to the ceiling again. This time I kept my eyes closed as I tried to figure out how to see.

I felt the urge to get off the ceiling so I shot myself through the roof of my apartments maybe 50 or so feet in the air. Lucid dreaming really paid off helping me understand movement, but I still couldn't see. So as I was floating in the sky, something grabbed me underneath my arms from behind. It slowly started pulling me backwards and downwards, into what felt like an apartment room. I didn't feel malevolent intent so I stayed calm, but for some reason as soon as it started pulling me I became immediately sexually aroused?

When it let me go, I floated to the ceiling. And after I hit it, I started spinning around in circles along it like someone holding the steering wheel of a car to the right. Maybe because I couldn't see, it was hard to get my bearings? Soon after, the entity moved me back down to my body and I woke up. Maybe 10 or so seconds later a family member walked out of their room into the room I was in. It was almost as if the entity was aware I was about to be interrupted?

And that was it. What do you guys think?  :?