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#101
There's no limit to where you can go.
#102
Well, her website disappeared, can't seem to find anything about her besides stores that sell her books... I think I'll write the monroe institute and see... :o


In related news: http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&etMailToID=1174716213

A study finds that vitamin supplements are actually harmful! I wonder if it could be explained with the "dead food/live food" idea... You take in good nutrients, but your energy remains dull, so you are not able to make the best of it, and starve! :o
#103
I suppose calling on the help of a guide is the best way to travel "safely" and without too many distortions... Many authors report getting help from them when visiting other dimensions, so why not geographic locations?
#104
Quote from: SSJ4SephirothX on February 28, 2007, 21:00:05When you receive the vibration sensation, does you physical body actually move?  I noticed these past two nights while I'm having the vibrations, my physical body is actually moving.  How can I verify this?  Well, the vibrations last night for example make me feel as if I was trying to find a way out of my physical body by rolling into a ball.  When I was physically awaken (at my will), I was curled into a fetal position.  The night before that, my body was halfway stood up (my upper half was up) and did not use my arms for leverage.  I felt and think I even saw my legs shaking wildly.  In an attempt to try the "roll out of body" method I have read about, I actually fell out of bed.  :lol:

I think you may be in a state of light trance when your body moves ; you feel disorientation, a certain sense of duality... But that state is not deep enough -- you still have control over your muscles. I recommend that you try to "nurture the vibrations" ; this does not mean concentrating on them directly, but rather doing a technique to exert pressure on your non-physical body -- try a visualization technique like the rope at this point, for example.

QuoteAlso, I don't know if this is possible but can you overstimulate energy to the point to where it can make you have that floating/dreamlike feeling all day the next day?  I have been like that all day today and it's been driving me nuts!  Maybe I'm just coming down with the flu or something.  :lol:

I have felt this as well directly following very vivid dreams or OBEs... Some kind of intense depression-like feeling, a feeling of disconnection, detachment, slowed reaction time... Literally as if a part of my mind was still out there instead of with me in the physical... It's possible that the energetic reactions involved in OBEs cause a strain on the energy body... It hasn't happened enough for me to find any "cures" though, maybe others will have good tips...
#105
It reminds me of Robert Bruce's description of the mental plane from his Treatise on OBE:

(http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/rbruce2.html)
QuoteThe Mental Dimension

This is a spectacular dimension! Iridescent rivers of sound bounded by rainbow shores of pulsating light. Thoughts appear as kaleidoscopic patterns of light and sound. You walk across fields of ideas under a sparkling crystal sky of inspiration. If you enter this world don't try to rationalize or understand it, or you may go mad, for it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it!

This dimension is what, I believe, the ancient Vikings called the famed "Rainbow Bridge" into Asgard. It truly looks and feels as if you are walking up a rainbow into some wonderful world where the Gods must surely dwell.

Exist here in wondrous amazement. Let loose the child within you to play in this fairy wonderland. Everything feels real and solid. Time is even further distorted here than in the Astral and reality is kaleidascopic.
#106
Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras / Re: Cursed
February 28, 2007, 14:19:10
What are the physical facts, if you don't mind my asking?
#107
I need to write to Rosalind McKnight to find out why mixing fruit and vegetables is bad :p I'll keep you guys updated if I succeed!
#108
Is it a conch shell? http://www.marathonseafood.com/images/conch_shell_200.jpg

I saw one on a desk in my dream last night...
#109
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: QUESTIONS!
February 26, 2007, 14:03:18
I would honestly advise against using psychic means to find out if someone is cheating on you. Remember that you will experience a lot of reality fluctuations... Many of the experienced projectors here, who have been doing it for years, experience these deformations as well. What if you have a vision of the loved one with another person and start believing things even though nothing is happening? Or what if you see nothing abnormal and the person is in fact cheating on you?

In any case, there is one thing that always works in the Astral - Ask and you shall receive. It's really that simple. You ask something, and you will receive an answer. There is of course no guarantee that the answer will be satisfactory or accurate...
#110
Welcome to Energy Body and The Chakras / Re: Cursed
February 26, 2007, 13:57:28
I really mean no offense by my post... But do you realize that you are doing this to yourself? There's no black magicians planting curses on you and preventing you from doing energy work.. You don't have magical enemies... Snap out of it.

This is not an insult, it is friendly advice. You are driving yourself crazy ; do something before it gets out of hand. Go see a psychiatrist.
#111
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: QUESTIONS!
February 26, 2007, 13:44:41
Quote1. Is it possible to find out in astral (or in RTZ) if someone is cheating on you or planning to do some harm? I've pondered this quite a long time and would like to know the answer to this question.

Yes

Quote2. If I projected for example in school, and went to a classroom, could I actually hear the people talking? Or is it that you can't hear physical sounds in astral.

I don't think it's possible to hear physical sounds unless you're close to your physical body. You could technically "hear people thinking" .. But hrmm... You'd have to be pretty experienced... You'd be very lucky if everything wasn't distorted beyond recognition by the time you got to the classroom. Approaching physical people while out of body almost always produces random results..

Quote3. How do you teleport to other places & visit dead people? Always, when I wish to do those I wake up. Those wishes probably need much energy to be fulfilled?

Burn a hole through your wall and "program it" so that when you go through it, it takes you where you want to go. Or create a door. Or simply ask out loud and see if you are guided there automatically. Traveling around is just a matter of willpower... You don't have to know where something is exactly to get to it. As for energy... I don't know... When in doubt, ask a spirit guide.

Quote4. Have you visited in the Akashic records?
a) What was it like?
b) Did you later confirm the information you got there?

I haven't... But we are supposedly linked to them at all times, there's no need to "visit" the library... You can create a book or a computer screen out of thin air while projected and command it to show you things. Your ability to avoid reality deformations comes in handy there.

Quote5. ..and what was the morning method called?

I don't think there's a name for it... You just wake up a few hours before the usual time, wait around for an hour, and go back to sleep... It's not really a projection method, just one of the best times to try for a conscious exit.
#113
This topic keeps coming up... Usually ends up in arguments...

I'd say nobody feels confident enough to do it... Those who can certainly don't need the money or the fame...
#114
I'm still researching how it can be done... Apparently a lot of those who can do it have achieved it through meditation and energy work... No surprise there.

The trick seems to be to build up your energy body to such an extent that you can perceive things through it in the waking state. In most people, the subtle senses are dormant or very faint. By raising energy, you strengthen the signal, and accessing it becomes easier.
#115
From Rosalind McKnight's book, Cosmic Journeys: My Out-of-Body Explorations with Robert A. Monroe

Rosalind McKnight is sitting in a CHEC Unit (Controlled Holistic Environmental Chamber) with binaural sounds that Robert Monroe is playing from the control room. She has a microphone and can relay to Robert what is going on while she is in a state of trance. She acts as a channel between Monroe and "Invisible helpers" who give them insights about the greater reality.

QuoteROMC (Rosalind McKnight): I'm lying here trying to figure out what is going on. The new sound that you have, Bob, I think is affecting me differently. I feel nothing happening. However, I heard a voice that said, "Unless you are really willing to work with us on some serious disciplines, we are going to have to withdraw from working with you."
RAM (Robert A. Monroe): Ask them what they mean.
ROMC: I hear the words, "We are trying to get across the point that you must get into the right balance within your systems. With the right energy balance, you can be in contact with other dimensions at any time. There are many dimensions around and within; it is a matter of being in the right state of consciousness to come into the proper communication with them. The goal should be to keep the channels open at all times, to be in constant communication. Certain things cut off communication. One is cutting off the vital energies that help produce the right state of consciousness.
"The message that we want to get across to both of you is that, if you take this work seriously, you should be willing to work carefully with your own vehicles and your own energy systems by following disciplines. You must follow the disciplines that you know within yourselves are the important ones to help accomplish the work that is to be done. It is important to set an example to yourselves, as much as to anyone else. It is not important to be concerned about what others think; it is important to be in contrrol of, and to be respectful of, your own decision-making process."
RAM: Yes, we have been remiss in not understanding this. We will certainly attempt to change the pattern.
ROMC: "It can be done in a slow process. You will find that the body has its habits as well. The body is a separate being in and of itself. It gets used to certain habits and types of food which makes change difficult. When you give up things that you have taken into your system for many years, cravings will occur. To switch habits creates a withdrawal that is not easy for your bodies. It is important to take on one main discipline at a time, and to stick to it. Do not take on more disciplines than you can achieve. You will overload your system in trying to put too many changes upon it at once."
RAM: Is there one critical food that is most detrimental to our system?
ROMC: "The problem is with the amount of food that is taken in. Also, the important foods to eat are the natural foods--foods that have not been tampered with by humans. Artificial ingredients that enhance a food's taste and appearance are detrimental to the energy system.
"Many of the diseases that are a part of modern life on the earth come through the foods that have artificial, man-made ingredients. What happens is that the energy balance in the food is thrown off, and important vitamins are often destroyed. The artificial ingredients, in turn, throw the energy balance off within the body. Many people in societies such as yours, where there is plenty, are victims of vitamin deprivation and starvation, even though there is plenty to eat. The body becomes starved for its natural sources of energy; if it is not satisfied, disease sets in. Disease occurs when the body gets out of balance. The mind and emotions also have a great deal to do with the energy imbalance and disease.
"An important rule to follow is to seek the natural flow of energies--natural foods, your own natural flow of energies, your own natural thoughts. Stay away from the artificial--that which is not in tune with your energies--food-wise and thought-wise. This also includes humans. Do not let artificial humans have control over your life. Anthing that is artificial is not in touch with its own energies."
RAM: What foods are especially good for the system?
ROMC: "Fresh juices are excellent for the system. It is good to cleanse the system with fresh juices. Citrus juices are especially helpful to the body. The body can receive natural sugar through all types of fruits.
"In your society, dyes and sprays are put on the fruits; therefore, it is important to cleanse carefully everything that you eat. It is preferable to eat foods that have not been dyed or sprayed. If this is not possible, careful cleansing is important.
"Back to the amount of food taken into the system: Those who tend to eat from an emotional level often take foods into the body to overcompensate for emotional deprivation. This is detrimental to the body. One must eat from a mental level, having control over the food that is taken in. When the emotions are in control, then the body is often abused.
"The body will crave the kinds of foods it is used to. When it is cleansed of the wrong food vibrations, it craves only the live foods. This is why it is important to put the body through cleansing periods called fasting, so that the body can get in touch with its own energies.
"We stress fruits and vegetables because they have most of what the body needs for proper energy. It is important to get in tune with the foods that you eat, as well as foods being in tune with you. When you eat the natural foods, you are eating live foods. Live foods are foods that have the vital life energy source still in them. The live elements in each cell in the body crave the live elements in natural foods. It is the like-attracts-like principle. When the consciousness levels of the self becomes stagnant or dead, so to speak, they attract dead foods. When the self is vibrantly alive, it attracts the live foods. When humans are really in tune with themselves, they will get the most mileage out of their systems."
RAM: Other than citrus fruits, is there any other food that can cleanse us with some rapidity?
ROMC: "Eating green, leafy vegetables is another good form of cleansing. Also, the yellow vegetables are good for cleansing. You will find that all live vegetables have a puriying effect upon the body; the more of the live vegetables and fruits that you eat, the better.
"However, do know that there are combinations of these live foods that can create an imbalance. One rule is not to mix fruits and vegetables at the same period of eating. It is important not to overload the system with large amounts of meat products. Some systems cannot handle meat products. And some systems do not need meat products. But there is no system that should have a large amount of meat products, for they can affect the digestive system in an adverse manner.
"Meat products are heavier in vibration and put a great load on the digestive system. People who overload the system with meats will have more energy problems, because the body is spending most of its energy digesting these products. Meat energies take away from the bodily energies. But the live foods, being lighter in vibration, do not put a great strain on the digestive system--therefore giving the body more energy for external functioning."

Well, I'm not going to copy the whole chapter... I am wearing out my fair-use rights :P They basically go on to say that it's good to grow your own foods, to "build a connection with the foods you grow" so that they are in tune with you, and are full of good vibrations. Being thankful for your food when you eat also helps.

Basically, "eating right" is important for the energy body. On the one hand, heavy foods put a strain on your digestive system which will wear down your ability to come in contact with higher energies. This would probably not prevent one from having an out of body experience, but doing serious energy work or attempting to travel to higher planes, contact "higher entities" would be problematic. On the other hand, there's the simple fact that we need this "life energy" that is contained in live foods. Fruit is alive even after it has been picked off a branch, it contains seeds and can still give birth to new plants. Meat will not produce new cows if you plant it into the ground :)

I'm not much of a vegetarian, and really couldn't care less about what I eat, but I do believe there is some truth to all this. Good physical and emotional balance always leads to a better ability to fulfill one's goals... If you let the small things hold you back -- things as stupid as your eating habits -- you'll keep stumbling along the way.
#116
"Just a dream?"
#117
Usually when you relax you'll start feeling pre-trance sensations, weightlessness, the impression that you're falling, the impression that your bed is made out of cotton, you'll feel blood circulation in your legs and arms which feels very similar to the vibrations, a rush of excitement and fear... These indicate that you're on the right track, but it'll probably be about 5-10 more minutes before you've gone deep enough.. And usually, there is no indication that you've reached the proper state. The way your body will feel won't change, and it's very likely that you'll fall asleep in the process.

What shadow.pulsar suggests is good. The best way to practice not losing consciousness in the trance state is to force yourself awake so that you keep inching between awake and asleep states many times in a row. Try going to sleep when you're very tired, and make an alarm ring every 5 minutes. Every time it rings, force yourself to write down any dreams or visions you've had, and go back to sleep. Repeat that many times in a row... That builds up every possible aspect of your ability to project ; all you have to add to it is strong determination to have a projection.

Instead of losing consciousness, you'll start to experience the side effects of trance -- hypnogogics (images and sounds, short dreams), vibrations, "astral sight," increased sensitivity to light and sound, etc... As those intensify, you'll be able to gauge how "far along" you are, and a visualization technique like the rope can help you get out fairly easily.
#118
You need to be asleep but conscious. Your problem is that you are wide awake when you try to project.
#120
Assuming that what you are experiencing is related to energy and not pathological... It's kind of a red pill/blue pill thing. You can choose to either nurture this activation of your energy body by doing energy work and fixing any problem areas to reach a better balance, or suppress the effects by staying away from spiritual practices, concentrating on the physical, eating heavy meals, doing physical exercise, etc...

A fast is dangerous if you are not in control, so I would not recommend it unless you feel confident that it is what you need to do.
#121
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Marihuana
February 15, 2007, 06:57:21
It kills your memories, so even if you have the experience, you won't remember it...
#123
I'll give it a serious try as well... I've been "on the edge" of projection a few nights in a row, hopefully I'll have one by the end of the week.

I must warn you guys though, it won't be a fair challenge. I will make use of my super-objective-vision theory AND my spirit guides  :-o oOoOoO
#124
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/science/10princeton.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"If people don't believe us after all the results we've produced, then they never will."
#125
Those sound like trance sensations. Most commonly, people report a deep falling sensation, kind of like when you're going down a slope on the highway, but the movement doesn't have to be downwards. I guess that's what you experienced... But who knows!