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Ah, dreamstate lessons... Can't live with'em, can't live without'em!

My sister came to me and told me to come with her to the supermarket to buy food. I obliged and we found ourselves in this rural supermarket that only sold fresh products. She took me to this aisle which was selling this stuff that looked like ice cream... Like chocolate ice cream... Sausage-shaped chocolate... Which doesn't melt. The whole aisle smelled terrible. Something just wasn't right.

So I ask my sister... "Is this... What I think it is? Are they really selling poop in boxes?"

"It's not poop, we like to call it 'excrement.'"

"That's the same thing! Why would you buy this?"

"It's a delicacy."

"Wait, you actually eat this?"

"Yeah..."

"But it's poop! Are you crazy?"

"What do you mean, crazy? Rich people eat 'disgusting' stuff all the time... Why not excrement?"

"It's got to taste terrible.. It's animal waste.. The body rejects it for a reason!"

"Well.. Look at it this way, you eat cheese, right?"

"Yes..."

"And it's actually rotten milk, it smells bad, some varieties even cause inflammations in the mouth. Excrement doesn't, it's sterile. The only reason you don't want to try it is because you were told that it was bad your whole life, yet you eat things that are just as bad if not worse. And here I thought you were the kind of person who constantly re-evaluated his beliefs..."

She looked around for a while, and picked out this box. I looked at the label: "$5.49, Fresh from today." Inside the box was this greenish-brown stool...

She actually made a great point...

So we went out to a park and she took some bread out of her bag, a knife, and started spreading crap on the bread. She handed a piece to me, and told me to try it.

I brought the yummy sandwich towards my face... And at the last moment...

"I can't do this. You eat it first."

Then I noticed that she was smiling. Her smile slowly became bigger and bigger until she burst out laughing.

"Hahaha! Damn! You almost fell for it!"

"Wait, what? It was a joke??"

"Well... Yeah... Who the hell would eat poop? Are you stupid or something?"

"You b****! You tried to make me eat crap!"

I threw the piece of bread as far as I could... And the dream ended.

Weird... Some people posted in The Triangle Method thread just yesterday and today, but I can't do that -- the "New reply" button disappeared!

Any idea why?

Well, that was an interesting, albeit scary experience... I remember very little of it, for a very simple reason... I willfully decided to forget it. I don't know if it simply ended when I decided to do that, or whether I actually did forget.

It was a conscious exit for once... I just laid there and waited with a strong intention to remain aware, and slowly I was able to see my room through my closed eyelids... I exited without much trouble, an that's when "it" attacked...

The attack wasn't anything too "bad"... Basically it felt like standing right next to a 5 foot high speaker, like the "thing" was making me vibrate... Then I found myself in a 4-dimensional maze... It looked like an endless matrix of doors that would change into walls, or walls becoming passages to other areas as I walked towards them.

I flinched, snapped back to the body, and waited for it to go away... Then I thought "it's probably just a creation of the mind, I should just get out and ignore it."

But I was stuck... Not because of sleep paralysis, I was actually too scared to to face this fear... I don't know what it was, it felt evil.

I waited but it wouldn't go away... So I told myself "this isn't good... If I create new fears I'll undo so much of the work I've done so far... If only I could forget about this..."

And that's where the experience ended -- at least the part I can remember. It really does feel like whatever-it-was was deleted from my memory... When I visualize the scene I just remember that there was something there, but I have no idea what it looked like (though it seemed human shaped).

I wonder if this is the result of an internet argument I had yesterday... That would be pretty funny :p

Exactly one year since my first OBE!

15 OBEs

50-odd sleep paralysis episodes

A handful of lucid dreams

Dozens of controlled non-lucid dreams

Hundreds of dreams recalled

A handful of far fetched theories

And one brand new outlook on life.

Thanks for everything guys! Probably wouldn't have made it if I hadn't found these forums!

EDIT: Actually it's tomorrow, but I'm exhausted, and I couldn't wait :p

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/03/15/koinange.africa/index.html

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/19/romania.exorcism.ap/index.html

ick :S

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/science/10princeton.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"If people don't believe us after all the results we've produced, then they never will."

Well, I projected again yesterday... Nothing too unusual, just got vibrations, tried to get up about 10 times before I finally found myself standing in the middle of my room... I jumped through the door with my two fists in front of me, kind of like Superman, except I was running... I could have flown, but I was too happy that I didn't crash my head into the door

I ran down the hall, and to my surprise, the front door was open... I looked out and the elevator had been replaced with a utility closet, with a bunch of buckets, brooms and cleaning products. Made sense, anyway, since the elevator has been out of order for a week now...

So I looked away and said "Clarity now! I want to see reality!" then I turned around, and the closet was still there... "Damn... What do I do now?"

Instead of looking for the secrets of the universe or making the most of the experience, I simply walked back to my room.

I snapped back to my body, and woke up... Much to my surprise, though, I was paralyzed from the head down... It had nothing to do with the usual sleep paralysis where you can turn around in your body and move at least a little while the vibrations happen... I was physically unable to move, and completely numb, but I could still feel certain parts of my body, like my face...

So I called out for help, and my sister came into the room.

"What are you doing, we're leaving soon, get up!"

"I can't, I'm completely paralyzed!"

"What? Really?"

"No, I'm just here pretending I can't move, what the hell do you think??"

"Relax! Think I should call a doctor?"

"NO!"

I hate going to the doctor so much that it cured my paralysis! At that point I just got up... Only to find that my whole right side was still extremely numb and painful... The right side of my face, the right arm, the right leg... It's like I only had control of half of me and had to drag this dead weight... I just couldn't walk properly. At this point I had no idea I was still "in-dream" ; there was just no way the question would have crossed my mind, it was too real.

Then I left my room and went outside where I met the landlord. He told me that we were being moved to another apartment temporarily. In that other apartment they put me in, my mom and dad were there, my dad said hi and gave me this secret handshake thing which ends with both persons hitting their fists together.

Then he says "Hey... Are you okay? You look like you have no strength in your arm!"

"No, I'm perfectly fine."

"Okay, do it again"

He sticks out his fist and I try to hit it... But my arm just won't move...

"See?"

"I told you I'm perfectly fine!"

"Yeah, I know, I was just kidding!"

And he just walks away..

Then, people come into the apartment, which apparently has a back door leading outside even though it's on the fourth floor... They all seem to be of indian origin, they're dressed in very classy tuxedos and party dresses. For some reason, they had to walk through our house to get to a party. This older lady comes in with a white fur coat and jewelry all over. She looks at me like "who the hell is that?" and I just freeze for a minute, not knowing what to say. "Oh right, you're just coming through, go right ahead"

She looks at my dad and says "Hey... What happened with the January rent, you guys were pretty late!"

My dad responds, "Yeah, I know, we had a little trouble. But here, let me make an advance payment for February." He takes a large wad of green bills out of his pocket and gives some of it to her... It's a lot of bills but they're all 1 dollar bills... I look at the money for a while, trying to count how much he gave her... I see a $5 bill in there... 12 dollars? For the rent? What?

That was my cue... I wake up, and I'm in my room. Turns out I was just crushing my right arm in my sleep.

"Booyah! Not paraplegic!"

... Binaural tapes work... Better than I thought. :p

Last night I gave Robert Monroe's Advanced Focus 10 tape a try for the fourth time.

"Blah blah blah... If you are not hearing my voice in your right ear, turn the headphones around now, so that you hear my voice in your right ear.. .. ......... Move to your energy conversion box, put all your worries blah blah...."


"Now, begin your resonant tuning.... *creepy sound of monks doing ohs and ahs for 10 minutes* Now, let's make the resonant energy balloon. Imagine energy coming out of the top of your head, going down around you and coming back up into your feet..... Whoosh, whoosh. Now, continue and make the energy swirl around you as it comes down.... Whoosh, whoosh."

*blank*

"NOW!"

*AAAHHHH!!! Oh... Right... I'm listening to the tape...*

"Now, feel no-one understand the power of your resonant energy balloon."

*L. O. L. I can definitely feel that, Bob*

"... let's bring you to focus 10. I'm going to count to 10, and you will progressively... blah blah"

"One"

*Okay... Let's get relaxed... I shouldn't be thinking now, just going with the flow...*

"Two"

*Damn, he's counting fast, how am I supposed to relax!?*

"Three"

*Hrmm okay I'll just play dead and see what happens...*

"Four"

*I'd better stop worrying about keeping up, I'm ruining the exercise*

"FIVE"

*FLASH* A big message in white letters suddenly appears in the darkness of my eyelids. It says: "Yup, that's right!"

*OH my god... How did this happen?*

"Six"

*I was completely conscious... I'm not even relaxed fully... Why did I get such a vivid picture now?*

"Seven"

*Well.. No way I'll make it to focus ten now... My heart's racing...*

"Eight"

"Nine -- longer pause"

*Man, why does he always have a longer pause before 10? Trying to make me believe I can bend time or something?"

"Ten. You are now in Focus 10..."

*No, I'm not... But it's okay, Bob, you're a tape, you're so lucky, you get to believe anything you want!*

--- Then he counts back down to 1, etc ---

"Now, I am going to count back up to 10, so that you may go into focus 10 a second time."

*Oh, cool, I thought I blew my chance at getting anything done this session*

"One"

*Okay, I'm just going to try and fall asleep here.*

"Two"

*...*

"Three"

*Hey, I just saw a spark... Oh wait, right... Must drift off to sleep...*

"Four"

*Flash*

Alex Trebek: "You folks ready to play the Wheel?"

Crowd: "Yeahhh!!!"

Alex Trebek: "Okay, Dan, it's your turn."

Dan: "Woooo!!!" *spin*

Ratakakatktaktak tak ... tak.

Alex Trebek: "900 dollars."

Dan: "An E!!!"

Alex Trebek: "There are two Es. Pick up that card now."

Dan: "I want to solve!"

Alex Trebek: "No, not yet, you need to spin the wheel again."

Dan: "Oh."

Ratakaktkaktkaktk tak... tak... tak.

Dan: "A...."


"FIVE!" *Electric shock*

* OW! Hey... You can't have numbers in a wheel of fortune puzzle... What is this? Wait... That's not even the same voice... Why was I in wheel of fortune??? I'm in the middle of a meditation exercise here!*


I want to emphasize on the fact that in the more-or-less 10 seconds between "four" and "five," I managed to cram 2 exciting minutes of quality wheel of fortune footage, somehow... And I have no idea why Alex Trebek was hosting it...

The rest of the tape was rather uneventful, I dwelved into trance a couple times when he was counting back the second time, but nothing major.


So I went to sleep, and started dreaming... It was an extremely vivid dream where a bunch of godzilla-sized bipedal wolves were shaking the school building, causing panic and destruction. This was followed by sleep paralysis and intense vibrations... I got up, snapped back to my body, got up, snapped back again, and lost consciousness.


What I find particularly interesting about Monroe's tapes is that systematically, no matter how stressed out or tired I am, listening to the tapes will bring on something during the night, whether it is a sleep paralysis episode, a lucid dream, or even a full fledged projection. I get to memorize a lot more than usual...

My first two projections happened one day after listening to his tapes for the first time... I don't know... There's just something mysterious about them... Like if they somehow tuned your mind and made it all possible! I no longer expect an exit during the tape, rather, I expect it in the few days directly following listening to it..

I've got a dream recall problem...

Usually, I wake up without any memory of dreams, I get up from bed, and a few minutes later it hits me ; I "connect" and remember some elements.

Take last night for example. I had three long dreams:

- I was in an apartment building, there was something about a single mom and her baby. For a moment I was flying outside and looking down at the building.
- I visited my brother's school, and there was "school spirit stuff" on display in the halls. A woman asked me for my school ID and when I said I didn't have one, she laughed at my face. I put my bags and coat somewhere in the hallway. A parent who was visiting too looked at my stuff, and said "what the hell does this have to do with school spirit?" He took my stuff and threw it, then we started yelling at each other.
- I was part of a vampire hunting clan of some sort. I remember two "hunts" but I know there were more of them. We had a book about vampires with descriptions of the characters we had to eliminate. Someone was always with me, explaining what to do, but that person was invisible.

Anyway, when I retrieve a memory of a dream, I have this "single connection" that takes place. I "pick" one event, or one series of events in particular which I know to be part of a much bigger dream.

Let's say this is the dream's timeline when I suddenly realize "oh yeah, I did have a dream":

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP

If I connect with "event G," I'll lose the memory of events A through F, and unless H and the rest are the logical sequels to G, those will disappear as well.

What happens is I remember the whole dream at once, "pick" a moment in it to mentally process, and by the time I'm done reprocessing it, I lose the ability to make links to other events.

My dreams are just too long to remember the whole thing consciously -- I am conscious of these parts I am missing, but I cannot access them all, because as soon as I concentrate on one part, all the other ones disappear (even though they were more or less fresh in my memory seconds before)!

It's like there's this short term memory waiting to be downloaded, and once I download a chunk to long term memory and try to relive the rest, I reach a wall, because the "memory bank" I'm reading from only contains what I downloaded and not what's really in there.

Somehow, I feel that in order to recall the whole dream, I need to avoid downloading the dream ; instead I should be accessing it from an altered state and find another way to store memory that won't destroy dream pieces.

Any thoughts? Similar problems? Solutions?

I've been discussing this recently... I thought it fit into this forum because I believe this is what the 2012 prophecy is the result of. I do not believe anything will happen on December 12, 2012, but I do believe that with the current situation of the world, and the increasing awareness of psychic phenomena by way of the internet, we are inevitably going to reach a point where a global event will be triggered.

I've been writing a guide to astral projection which includes the dream alarm method and what I believe is an overall better understanding of the process that carries someone from "unaware human" to "astral projector" and would ultimately help accelerate people's development.

Now, I won't go as far as to say that I have the ultimate, fool-proof method of achieving an out of body experience that will always work on anybody no matter what. That would be overly optimistic, and nothing has been thoroughly field tested yet.

But let's consider this theoretical situation. What if my publishing this guide leads to many people achieving an out of body experience in less than two weeks. Surely, they would tell their friends about it, and in a few months, a sizable portion of internet users would be passing the guide around until it comes to the attention of the media. More and more news sources talk about astral projection and lucid dreaming... The world slowly accepts that psychic powers are a reality.

The whole process of learning about astral projection and putting it into practice could take a few years... But all it takes for it to "boom" is for one big US news show to investigate it, and to report positive results, and instantly, it becomes reality.

I don't expect my tiny guide to make a difference, but I do expect that we will live to witness the scenario I have outlined above.

So, I'd like to open a discussion about how the world would end up if such a thing happened.

What would the impact be if the majority had access to astral projection?

Here's my take on it:

- Privacy disappears. Anyone can spy on anyone. Scandals erupt. All lies are exposed.
- The economy collapses. People cheat on lotteries and the stock market. People find oil, gold, etc... through psychic means. People steal company secrets, or personal information, credit card numbers, etc...
- Religions collapse. Anyone can become one with god and learn the truth about the universe. Ideological warfare begins. Extremists initiate a genocide, even a portion of american christians could potentially become violent -- just look at abortion clinics.
- Social inequity is established. People who have no psychic powers are at the mercy of those who do. Wise and enlightened beings cannot seem to outnumber the greedy and selfish.
- Life and death become irrelevant. Suicides become the number one cause of death.
- Life on earth loses its value, since anyone can become enlightened, there is no purpose to incarnating into a limited being.

Ultimately, this will cause all of humanity to "move on to the next level." But at what price?

What do you think? Should we let the world wither away slowly in its own ignorance, or should we raise awareness of psychic powers and risk the most chaotic and painful global event in the history of mankind?

Who here experiences "flashbacks" throughout the day?

I'm going through a phase where I'll see things around the house that will remind me of situations involving these objects that never actually occurred.

The first time it happened was a week after my first two OBEs (a few months ago), I grabbed my laptop and had a sudden flashback to a dream/OBE I had the night before where I walked on the laptop and broke it in half. I clearly remember trying to turn it on and noticing purple flashes coming from the cracked screen.

I went to the kitchen and had a sudden flashback of a dream/OBE where my mom visited me and was talking to me -- the conversation never physically happened.

This has happened sporadically throughout the months, but this week is particular... I'm having lots of non-physical memories that surface as soon as I see something related.

I got my wallet from the desk this morning, and had a flashback of a dream I had the night before where I had lost my wallet, and found it lying in the sand, half buried.

I went on facebook (www.facebook.com) and suddenly remembered a search I made while dreaming. I was looking to get in touch with a girl I met at the bus station in waking life, and while I was successful in finding her in the dream, when I tried looking for her today she wasn't in the search results.

I've been playing a video game for the past few days, and I just couldn't remember where the story had left off -- I played right before going to bed, and actually dreamt that I was still playing. Since it's a RPG, a lot of the actions are repetitive, so I dreamt that I continued the game from where I left off, and when I actually went to pick it up again in waking life, I realized I hadn't progressed since I put the game down... Logical, but the dream memories had somehow welded with real memories.

There's also a lot of disturbing memory anomalies -- remembering buying things I never actually bought (food-related), or looking for things in the wrong places because they were in different places in the dream.

Now, these problems are minor and not very bothersome, and I don't think they could escalate to a point where I'll wake up and believe that all my dreams were real events... What I'm wondering, though, is how common this is... Is it a common side effect of OBE practice or meditation?

Any idea if they are really flashbacks to dreams or created on the spot? Finding out the exact timeframe is difficult -- sometimes I won't know how "old" the dream memory is... I wonder if I'm experiencing sudden "mind splits" where I'm day-dreaming.

I'm working hard on developing clairvoyant abilities, but I'm not sure if this could be a sign that something is happening... I've read a lot about bringing consciousness outside of the body, but I've read very little about bringing higher consciousness into waking life, so I really don't know how to track my progress!

Any recommendations?

I had to wait 8 hours at a bus terminal between the US and Canada border today. I was with the same two people for those 8 hours, we chatted a bit and then I tried to take a nap. The girl was on the phone with her relatives from Norway, so she was speaking norwegian.

Hypnogogic images started coming to me so I decided to try a little "I wish I had superpowers" experiment. I did not understand a word she was saying, but I tried to "tell" the hypnogogics to translate for me. Obviously, it didn't work, but what happened was quite surprising... The images that came to me were pictures of words she was saying that sounded like english words!

What was particularly surprising was that I wasn't really listening, only hearing, if that makes sense. The words were indeed "translated" ; rather they were interpreted to match words that I knew in a completely automated manner.

So I want to try a new experiment now -- I'll download audiobooks in languages I know nothing about and play them as I fall asleep.

My theory is that paying attention to a language you don't understand causes your brain to go into an altered state, a concept similar to the ganzfeld effect -- in the absence of knowns, the brain enters a "meditative" state by itself and tries to process an endless flow of seemingly random information, causing hallucinations and the like.

So if anyone feels like trying it out too, please post your results

http://techfreep.com/worlds-largest-supercollider-could-destroy-the-universe.htm

And you thought nuclear weapons were bad! "Comply or I'll press the red button and turn off the universe!"

I just realized something while reading today... It's pretty much impossible to read something unless it is directly in the center of your field of vision. You can see the whole screen right now, yet you have to place your eyes over each word to read anything.

That, in itself, is not a groundbreaking discovery, but has anyone noticed how similar trying to read something that is not directly in the center of your field of vision is to reading in the astral -- or even "looking" at hypnogogics and mind's eye pictures?

Question to good astral readers -- how good is your peripheral vision?

Would developing our peripheral vision be the key to developing our clairvoyant ability?

Dear fellow travelers,

This is a big post, and I'm sorry

When I started training for wake-induced OBEs, I would reach the hypnogogic state consciously for about a split second and snap back to the physical before I could do anything. I have since improved tremendously, and while I have yet to confirm it, I think I'm capable of rather limited clairvoyant remote viewing. The longest I was able to stay focused on my "target" was about 20 seconds.

I have had a lot of trances where I was given information in the form of websites or simply series of numbers on a white background, and I have the hardest time reading them. I always know what they say, but as soon as I try to read and memorize, the words change into sentences that don't make sense. Numbers simply change to other values, which completely destroys the purpose!

I've compiled my impressions from conversations I've had on the subject...

The first obstacle for most people is the reflex to move your eyes (this is not a problem in OBEs, though). If you try and read, your (physical) eyes will most likely start going left and right, making you lose focus.

Then, the next obstacle is that everything will seem blurry, but not blurry in the sense that it's out of focus, blurry in the sense that you'll see text, but won't be able to actually read it. A bit like if you had never learned how to read -- the letters won't make sense to you. To fix this, we have this tendency to try and look closer, to look at the top left of each character to make out a letter, to recognize the "font."

As soon as you grasp how the letters look, and what to expect in the text, you'll be able to read full words.

Problem: When I reach this stage, the words shapeshift. You read a word, then the next one, then the next one, and you realize it says "Become red hello." That doesn't make sense. You read it again. "Never close orange."

I've talked to several people about this, and there are usually those who can read without a problem, and those who can't read anything.

Interesting to note: most of those who can read without problems in the astral have terrible spelling.

We also had a conversation about left-brained and right-brained people. Strongly left-brained people are analytical. When they read something, they analyze each character to compile a word, they remember spellings, etc... Strongly right-brained people are intuitive. When they read, they have a tendency to match patterns rather than decode.

Women are known to be more right-brained than men, although it isn't systematic, and people who are strongly right-brained are very rare, whether it's male or female.

From what I observed, right-brained people have a much better time not only communicating in the astral, they can also read better. So for some people, it's not even an issue at all, while others have years of experience in the astral and can't read for peanuts!

Now, in fact, I wrote a lot about the reasons for this difficulty, but it's not really what I'm after with this thread.

What I wanted to know was:

1. How well can you read in the astral?
2. Was it always the case?
3. Why do you think it's difficult for some to read in the astral? What did you observe when you were reading?
4. Do you have any tips to help others read better?

Now, you don't have to answer this like it's a bunch of test questions, they're just here to provide an idea of what I'm getting at. The subject is not covered in many books, and I'm really curious about it -- how can I improve my astral reading?

Well... This is extremely bizarre, yet it somehow works...

I found a common factor in my projections: every time I clean my room, I have a projection that night.

Yesterday, I cleaned my room entirely, took out all the clothes lying around on the floor, put all my books on shelves and vacuumed.

I set my alarm program to ring every thirty minutes, 10 times. Well, I had 10 "mini-projections" ; they weren't full-fledged projections, but every time the alarm rang, I was in the etheric, vibrating, hearing loud sounds, seeing bright lights everywhere, with some flashes of astral vision...

Now I'm wondering if this is something anyone else has experienced...

I don't think the point here is that cleaning your room will make you project, but it's quite possible that something energetic is happening -- after all, leaving all kinds of crap lying around on the floor isn't very feng shui!

I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with cleaning to the point that I can't sleep right if my room is a mess -- but does the mess create blockages, does it confuse your astral vision? Or is it the action of cleaning that "chases away evil spirits" (read: negative energies) and allows for better projection?

In any case... I always hated sleeping, I thought it was a waste of time, until I started practicing projection, that is... Now I love sleeping! Cleaning's never been my favorite activity either, yet now I'm pretty convinced that if I clean my room regularly I'll have more projections!

See a pattern here?

I had a fun experience last night...

I woke up to vibrations a few hours after falling asleep. I tried real hard to separate and float up but I was too heavy, still attached to the physical, so I decided to ask someone to help me leave the body by pulling me out. No help came so I tried to separate again. I was doing this in a pretty clumsy way... I was pretty much randomly shooting energy around me in hopes that it would create a projectable double.

After a while, I saw pale shapes moving around the room. I thought that was my projectable double, and I was like "Oh, great, I'm still conscious, that means I have to wait here while this idiot goes on an adventure!"

That's when I felt something very cold wrap around my head. That wasn't my projectable double!

"Damn it, getting attacked again!" I thought.

It was a small, child sized entity. After much deliberation, I understood that he was here to help me, not bother me, so I let him pull me out. The way he pulled me out was a bit weird, he had his arms and legs around my head and was trying to float up!

I couldn't see him at this point but I was able to feel the whole extent of his (extremely cold) body from head to toes with my "hands" -- I put hands in quotes here because it really felt as though my hands were huge nets that perfectly identified his whole shape at once and I could feel, very realistically, how cold he was.

"It's a ghost," I thought...

When he pulled me out, something hilarious happened -- what looked like my physical body "recoiled" from the separation and found itself a little farther down the bed. This is the second time this happens -- I see my physical body, and

1. It's completely stuck in the same position as my sleeping position, but on its back instead of on its side, so it looks like a stiff dead body with paralyzed articulations!
2. I can move it around with thought, but my actual physical body doesn't move (i.e. I wake up in the same position I fell asleep in).
3. It's fully dressed even though I went to bed with just shorts.
4. It's smiling like an idiot -- a really HUGE smile.

I tried to move the body back to the center of the bed, but the kid said "It's okay, just leave it there!"

Much to my surprise, though, I was not in my bed... I was in someone else's bed, in some house I had never seen before.

When I realized what had happened, I turned to the child.

"Thanks for helping me, I'm very grateful! But why are you so cold? You scared me!"

"Well, that's the way it is," he replied telepathically. That's not exactly what he said, but he expressed the fact that he had no answer, and that he didn't think it was odd.

After that, we went to the living room and I remembered that we played a bit, but nothing specific...

There was a presence somewhere with me... I don't know if it was a "guide"; there was clearly something behind me that was watching or giving advice, but I did not realize that it was there immediately. It's only in retrospect that I remember communicating with it.

At some point, while we were playing, I asked the little boy what his name was.

"Èn," he said.

"Èn, like, your initial is the letter N?"

"No, just Èn."

I was pretty convinced that he was a ghost, i.e. a lost soul that needed help to realize his death and cross over to the other side. That's when the "guide" behind me made me remember something I had read in Rosalind McKnight's book -- Robert Monroe's method to help lost souls cross over.

"Hey, where are your parents? How come you're here all by yourself?"

"..."

"You do have parents, don't you?"

"I think so..."

(I turned to my "guide" and said "Damn, why doesn't this kid know whether or not he has parents!")

"Would you like to be with them again?"

"Yes!"

"Okay. Close your eyes. Do you see a light? You should follow the light if you see one!"

He closes his eyes for 3 seconds and says "Nothing's happening!"

(I turned to my "guide" again and said "Argh! Why can't it happen like in the book!")

That's when I decided to go for the "big finale" and give it to him straight.

"YOU ARE D.."

*Flash*

I was transported directly back to my body mid sentence!

But I wasn't completely back, I was still in that bed that wasn't mine!

So I repeated the same routine. I asked Èn to come and pull me out. Instantly, I felt his arms and legs around my head, trying to pull me up.

Unfortunately, after that, I was much less lucid, and the memories are all mixed up... I remember meeting different people, I also remember that we were in my childhood home's backyard, it was really beautiful, green everywhere with pleasant sunlight shining down on us.

I'm pretty disappointed that I didn't get to help the kid. Who knows, maybe he wasn't actually dead! He felt extremely cold and was home alone despites being only 8 or 9, but that's the only clues I had!

I wonder if I was called back to my body when I told him he was dead because that was a mistake...

In any case... *Adds 1 to the OBE counter*

An excerpt from Rosalind McKnight's book, "Cosmic Journeys: My Out of Body Explorations with Robert A. Monroe"

This is something that a channeled entity said through McKnight under supervision of Robert Monroe:

"Many souls work unconsciously on different levels during their sleep state. These traveling sleep helpers work with souls in the body and out, for healing and regeneration. These are souls who work consciously with the earthbound souls; there are also those who are not aware that they work with such souls during their sleeping state.

[...]

The souls that work on different levels in their sleep state can ask, while they are in a level of relaxation, what they do to help others while they are sleeping. If this question is asked before going into the sleeping state, then more awareness of the nature of the work done in this state will be received--if indeed the soul does 'moonlighting' in the true sense of the word.

However, it is not always important to be aware of the work done, because often the souls that are involved in the awakening of other soul levels are entities who are working intensely in the earth body during the waking state. Many are in the helping professions, and many are in the helping consciousness."

Interesting, huh?

Has anyone tried doing this? I'm going to ask tonight

I took a "normal nap" today instead of doing my weird alarm clock experiments, and I'm quite amazed at what's happening to me ; my dream mind is completely separate from my main point of consciousness...

Basically, my dream happened in the third person. I was a more or less passive observer, I could see myself doing things, and had some kind of separate, internal dialogue going on, kind of like a commentary of the dream... A bit like when you're watching TV and thinking things to yourself...

There were times where I was trying to influence this "me" that I was watching... For instance this "me" was on top of a moving subway train, and I was trying to tell "me" to get down, but "me" couldn't hear anything I said...

I guess the good news is there is definitely a shift in consciousness happening... But what do I do with that? Has anyone experienced similar things? How do I use this to my advantage?

I thought I'd post this here as well...

I made this tonight...

http://www.kiwibonga.com/DreamAlarm_0.1Beta.zip

It's a beta, it might be buggy, etc... So don't blame me if your eyes fall out of their sockets as a result of using this program... But do submit a bug report and suggestions

This program is designed to wake you up during the night at regular intervals to make sure you can't ever reach deep sleep. Obviously, don't use it if you want to feel rested the next day.

Waking up and drifting back to sleep without having to move to stop the noise is a great way to induce lucid dreams and/or false awakenings. It is my belief that Robert Monroe experienced his first OBEs as a result of being disturbed in his sleep by the tapes he was playing when studying "sleep-learning."

The difference between you and Monroe (at the time), though, is that you know what lucid dreams and OBEs are, and you're prepared to experience them.

This program is not primarily meant as a method that'll help you exit the body or have lucid dreams per se... It is more of an "awareness enhancer" -- it will help you practice trance without having to do the "arm technique," and will give you more OBE attempts each night you use it.

Press "Test ring" in order to hear the alarm in advance. Finetune it with the different controls, and make sure it is sharp enough to wake you up, but not annoying to the point that it'll prevent you from going back to sleep.

When you get woken up, wait for the alarm to finish. You are in the perfect state to reach trance in a matter of seconds. Trance is the state between awake and asleep state, your mind is half awake, and your body's half awake. You want to offset that balance by awaking the mind but making the body go to sleep. Assuming that you don't move and are ready to fall asleep right away, you will get a nice chance at leaving the body or controlling a lucid dream.

NOTE: This software uses the PC speaker. This is the device that goes "beep beep" when you first turn on the computer. It does not use the regular speakers. This is because it's much easier to program, and it sounds like an alarm on everyone's system. You need to enable on-board sound if it's disabled.

This software caters mainly to people who have a PC in their room... sorry, other people

Eventually, I'll make this compatible with regular speakers, and later on, hopefully, it will be possible to create MP3s (or WAVS :/) of a full night of alarms for earphone use.

Explanation of the controls:

Minutes between rings: the number of minutes the program waits between two rings. Default value: 30 minutes. Make this about as long as you think it'll take you to fall back asleep after each alarm, and add some extra time for the eventual OBE/lucid dream. It should take about 1 or 2 minutes for most people to fall asleep again... I think a value between 20 and 40 minutes is optimal for most.

Total number of rings: the number of times the alarm will actually ring.

Minutes before first ring: the number of minutes before the first alarm's ring. Set this so that the alarm doesn't start ringing until about 10-20 minutes after you are sound asleep. If you think you'll be asleep in 30 minutes, set this to 40-50 minutes.

The formula to find out the total duration of the experiment is: [time before first ring] + [number of rings - 1] * [time between rings]

i.e. if you set the waiting time to 60 minutes, set an interval of 30 minutes, and set it to 10 rings, you will get 60 + 30 * 9 minutes = 5.5 hours

Beep frequency: This controls the frequency (pitch) of the alarm sound. When you move the slider you'll hear a little preview of the actual sound. It's fun to move the slider and try to play music! Lower values give lower sounds, higher values give higher sounds. Higher pitched sounds are louder, but low pitched sounds are scarier. Find a sweet spot! (Note: 440 Hz for the computer's error sound, 900 Hz for the bootup sound)

Beep duration, time between beeps, number of beeps: These three controls are meant to allow you to shape your alarm ring. The beep duration corresponds to the length of each individual beep, in milliseconds (thousandths of a second). The time between beeps is pretty self explanatory, but this one is in tenths of a second. The number of beeps is also self explanatory.

Make sure you gauge these settings so that it rings long enough to wake you up (and it can take up to 10-15 rings if you're tired!), but not so long that you'll be wasting precious trance time waiting for the alarm to stop.

I hope this will be useful to some people. Please do post your results if you decide to try it!

I posted it on Jonas Ridgeway's forum and I thought it would be a good idea to post it here too.

Here's the theory:

Every night, you leave the body.

Every night since you were born, you have had awesome adventures every night.

The problem is... You didn't know it but there is something you need to do before you re-enter the body, or before you get "called back" that will allow you to "download your astral memories for the night into your brain." (As Robert Bruce says)

Having never realized this, you have never, ever been able to "evolve" because every time you left the body, it felt like it was the first time. And every time you came back to your body, you didn't even know something happened in your sleep.

Sometimes you have dreams, sometimes you don't, right?

Actually you do dream every night. Same thing applies, you just don't remember it.

Dreams are subconscious-polluted OBEs. Sometimes your subconscious is so strong, you don't appear to control them, you are watching everything passively.


So take action.

Tonight, and every other night, you will remember this:

1. I will not passively watch my dreams unfold. Heck, I will not even have a passive dream. My dream will be lucid.

2. Before I come back, I will do everything in my power to upload my memory to my brain before entering the body again.


Remember that you only get one try each night. You will not know if it worked until it actually does.

Good luck, Jim!

From now until next week, I will create a little box in the astral before being called back. This little box will be similar to the thought balls Monroe described in his books. In it, I will put, in "universal telepathic format," everything that happened during the OBE, as it unfolds (not at the end before going back).

This "Spirit recorder" will be attached to me at all times. I will not forget its presence and it will contain all of my perceptions.

Once I go back to my body, I will put the spirit recorder box under my pillow. If I do not remember what happened during the night, at least my spirit recorder will still be intact in the astral.

Every time I go back and don't remember last night's OBE, I will pick up my spirit recorder and play everything back, so I can pick up where I left off the night before.

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Sounds simple, doesn't it?

Anyway, I feel perhaps I should clarify on my theory:

On one side, you have awareness. With low awareness (i.e. being unconscious), your subconscious is in control. With higher awareness, you have "lucid dreams." With even higher awareness and control over your focus, you have "RTZ projections."

On the other side, you have memory. Everything that happens to you while aware gets copied to your memory. Where this memory is located is probably your current "consciousness vehicle" ; meaning one of your non-physical doubles.

The theory is basically that having control over awareness does not necessarily mean you will have any memory of your "adventures."

The "big secret" would be that your memory usually gets erased every night. People who have spontaneous OBEs are gifted with high awareness. Those who remember it and share their experiences with us are gifted with good memory.

I know many people who do not ever remember their dreams, and many people who remember all their dreams but never have control over them.

Nobody, obviously, would be able to tell of their experiences if they do not have memory of them.

There is =nothing= in all the things I've read so far that would be able to disprove the theory that memory is the single most important component... Everything else is there clear as day, and the most successful "technique" is critically acclaimed as being a transfer from a lucid dream to the RTZ.

So... Basically... Someone disprove it before I go crazy and start preaching the memory theory to everyone  

The idea here is basically built on the "fact" that we project every night when we go to sleep. Supposedly we dream every night, and dreams are nothing but unconscious events.

Autosuggestion works very well to have lucid dreams. Is it because it allows you to become aware while asleep, or is it simply because it makes you focus on remembering your dreams?

Perhaps every night we AP for hours and come back to our bodies, only to never remember it afterwards!

Is there a technique we can do before going back to ensure we'll remember?

Is it really all that useful to "torture ourselves" with all these conscious techniques, which in the end seem just like very elaborate ways to fall asleep?

Your input is greatly appreciated

Hey

Today, I took a small nap around 2PM, and started dreaming. I dreamt that I was in my childhood home, and that happens very often in dreams, so I realized I was dreaming, and suddenly the landscape changed, I was in my bedroom, here in my apartment.

All of a sudden, I started feeling vibrations. I clearly remember separating from my body several times in a row, it happened around 5 times...

The feeling of separation and the vibrations were the first time I had memory of the sense of touch in a dream, so I'm quite convinced that they were not just a dream.

In one of my 5 exits, I managed not to immediately snap back to my body, and I went towards the window and eventually got stuck there. It was weird, almost as if I was on both sides of the window at the same time.

After that, I lost my focus and went back to sleep.

My vision was rather foggy during the exits, but I clearly remember every detail of it...

In any case, this is pretty exciting -- even if I actually dreamt the "getting stuck in a window" episode, I am convinced the vibrations were real, and it was also my first lucid dream since I started making auto-suggestions about remembering my dreams and noticing discrepancies in them.

So, umm... Hooray?

Well, I seem to have reached kind of a dead end...

I'm not sure how to describe it, but basically, all the things I've experienced that feel like I made progress towards inducing an OBE have happened only once. I can't seem to reproduce anything that happened.

The list of things in question:
- Seeing hypnogogic images when feeling sleepy (only learned that there was something special about them recently, and have been unable to see any ever since, even though I often witnessed them in the past!)
- Waking paralysis (happened when I was little)
- Feeling an intense back and forth swaying motion following a very short lucid dream
- Seeing a tunnel as an hypnogogic image and feeling like I was being sucked into it
- Waking up in the middle of the night from hearing a loud crash sound, and having a voice tell me to go back to sleep

For the past couple of days, I have been unable to achieve anything ; I could not even start any meaningful imagery in my mind, which was never a problem to me before... I just stare into darkness and nothing happens, as if I was just too focused on the physical...

Much like how fear is usually feared, and not the object of the fear itself... I think I am probably looking forward to witnessing these things happen again, instead of actually working towards them, and this is why I am unable to reproduce them.

What should I do to get in the right path again? I was thinking of just stopping any kind of practice for a while, but can it really help? How do I reopen the doors I've closed?

Hey

I've been experimenting in the past few days with becoming conscious as I fall asleep ; I feel I've made real progress.

Something that I find weird is that things have happened, but I only recalled them later on. The feeling is a bit like when someone wakes you up, talks to you, and you go back to sleep, then they ask you if you remember what you told them and you only recall the moment they've talked to you when they talk to you about it.

There's two things I experienced (during the practice sessions of the past few days) that I did not remember right away, that I remembered only a few hours later or the next day.

The first one was this vision I had of a colored tunnel that was trying to suck me in. I got startled and lost this vision, but somehow instantly forgot about it and recalled it hours later. I am pretty sure I was being sucked out of my body.

Another thing I felt was a crash sound. I don't know how to describe it. It wasn't anything like an explosion or a car crash... It was kind of like a rather quiet thunderbolt with "shrapnel" -- like metallic projections of some kind that made this glittery sound. Kind of like a broken window but with electricity, actually! When I remembered it hours later, I realized that it made me question myself, I asked myself what the sound was, and then I said something like "oh, it's just the crash sound, no problem!" and I went back to sleep!

I think this is the famous sound some people hear when entering OBE state, the same crash that accompanied the buzzing sound my mother told me about in her two involuntary OBEs...

I read from many sources that the key to remembering these experiences was to write them down as soon as you wake up -- I've been writing down my experiences as soon as I would wake up or decide to end a practice sessions, but I tend to go back later and 'complete' the entries with "oh, by the way, I saw this".

Recalling things with a delay has happened to me on several occasions in the past... For the most part, they were dreams or lucid dreams, but I remember waking up with sleeping paralysis when I was just a little kid, maybe 8 or 9 years old, and even though it scared me very much, I did not talk about it to my parents until I actually recalled it, days later...

I remember this lucid dream around the same age where a metallic object was stuck in my arm, and I realized I wasn't hurt or anything, that's what made me realize I was in a dream ; the same phenomenon happened, I had this "everything's normal, everything's in order" feeling and forgot about the experience until much later.

Does anyone have memory tips that would allow me to better recall these kinds of events? Is it common to forget things that are actually very startling?

All these things I recall later tend to be extremely important things that I am looking to achieve, yet they are the ones I forget most easily... Weird! Or maybe not so weird... Perhaps the fact that I get startled makes me close a hypothetical door to my subconscious... The ideal thing would perhaps be to stop being scared... Hopefully the fear or feeling of "unexpected-ness" will wither away as I get more similar experiences.

-- Something that I find good about asking questions here is that I tend to answer my own questions. Several times I've closed the window without pressing "submit" because I found the answer, or what I thought to be the answer, right here, in my post. I'd like to submit this anyway

I was thinking about something today... About the way people perceive things differently on a case by case basis, about sounds, imagery and elements.

When I think about "inner peace," about things that have a tendency to calm me down, I think of the sound of running water, the refreshing sounds of the rain, waterfalls, etc.

In everyday life, I seem to find peace in not having anything to do, just being allowed to do anything I want without any contracts or obligations, kind of like running water that never wants to end up in the ocean, or stuck at a dam.

When I look around me, I see very different characters.

Some of them listen to heavy metal music, cut their arms and basically think only of escaping from 'this world.' They find peace in their self-torment.

Some of them find their comfort in physical things, such as money, working hard to make money ; they spend more time thinking about living a good life than actually living their life, their peace consists mainly in knowing that nothing can disrupt them for as long as they gather all their effort towards a goal.

Some of them believe that for as long as they do what they are told, nobody will bother them. When they do not do as they are told, bad things happen, or so they feel.

These are just examples of people I know, but no two people are alike.

What has a tendency to calm you down in terms of sound and imagery?
Where do you find peace in everyday life?

Hi

My name is Ben and I am 21 years old.

I started reading about OBEs on the internet around the age of 14, after my mother told me of two times she had experienced involuntary OBEs.

One of them was while reading, she suddenly found herself flying in the room, and looked down at herself, still reading. She started panicking because she thought she was dying, or about to witness her own death, and she slowly started drifting away from her body despites her efforts to get back. She then suddenly blacked out and found herself in her body again, absolutely dumbfounded and scared, with the book still in her hands ; her body was still awake when it happened... She slept with the lights on for the next month or so ;p

I have been attempting to induce OBEs myself, after reading Robert Peterson's book, which I am sure most of you are familiar with. My mother's experiences were very convincing to me, since everything she described to me, I found very similar accounts of on the internet -- there was clearly no mere coincidence there.

In any case... Over all these years that I have been trying, I haven't been training seriously enough, in my opinion. Getting to the point where I do not feel my body anymore is very easy to do, but after that happens, I mostly either fall asleep or get scared, or my heart starts racing because I feel I am getting closer, which causes me to drift away from my relaxed state.

I thought of joining a message board to get some help achieving astral projection... And here I am.

I haven't attempted to project in many years now, I got discouraged after trying for several months and getting no results. I've tried twice in the past 2 days, still with no luck, and encountered certain problems.

There are concerns I have that are possibly preventing me from being fully relaxed, or believing that I can indeed astral project.

- I have trouble sleeping on my back because I can't seem to keep my head straight. I tend to sleep on my side with my arm under my head, and the other arm pushed up against the blanket so that I can breathe easily.
Now I've somehow convinced myself that it is impossible or at least very difficult to achieve astral projection if you aren't on your back ; is there any truth to this?

- The psychological part plays an important role in actually achieving astral projection (according to what I've read, once again).

One thing that preoccupies me is that I am mostly looking forward to doing all the "bad" things you can't do in the physical plane ; watching girls undress, reading exam topics before an exam, being able to read people's minds, etc.

I am not very confident, and I tend to feel very guilty by nature whenever I do something wrong. Now I feel that the reason I am having trouble projecting is because my "higher being" does not want me to do these things, it knows that I will use this power to do selfish things. Has anyone heard of such a thing happening, or am I just overthinking this?

If I write a letter to myself, do you think it could potentially help me get some progress with this feeling? I think I'll try doing that, actually :p

- It is possible to visit someone in their sleep ; a lot of people reported seeing others hovering a few inches above their body while asleep. Is it possible to somehow interact with someone who is sleeping? Is it 'dangerous'? Can I give someone here my address and ask them to come 'wake my spirit up' during the night to help me become conscious during my sleep?

- How significant is 'family psychic ability'? My mother has also had experiences with Ouija boards, she was told that she had a good ability, and was making it very easy for the visiting spirit to stay energized -- an innate ability to get in touch with her subconscious. Could this affect me?

Anyway, I'll browse around some more, hopefully my questions aren't TOO common :O

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies

- Ben