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It could well have been a partial separation, Leary Herring.

I practice with my eyes closed. On a few occasions, I've felt as though bits of my body might be rising, but I've always assumed this is in my imagination - that I want it to happen so much, that I'm unconsciously pretending that it's happening. Whenever I've attempted to get out of my body, I've never actually managed it yet.

Have you set yourself for an experiment?

No I haven't; do you have any suggestions, Andrew? I'm open to any.

Well done, outofbodydude.  I'm really anxious to have an OBE too. I'm going to bed myself soon; I'll have to do some more practicing.

Unfortunately, I've never had anything like that happen to me. I really wish I would hurry up and advance spiritually. I seem to be very slow at it.

Although, I feel I'm slowly moving forward. Last night, when I was practicing, when I stopped, I felt again a sort of pulling on my body - it felt like my astral body was pulling to get out. And when practicing, even though I'm still in my body, I seem to be acutely aware of my astral body. I feel a bit like a blob that's stuck in my body - I don't feel like my astral body and physical body are infused together; I can feel that there are two separate bodies, even though they - we - are still together.

PerversionOfEvil, if you can manage to relax your mind and body fully, and really concentrate, then I see no reason why you won't someday be able to enter the astral plane. I hope you keep trying. 

May I also say how sorry I am that you have schizophrenia. I know quite a lot about it, and I know it must be difficult to live with it.

Nay, you've put me in mind of the song Put On a Happy Face. 

This isn't really about dreams, but it's kind of related, as it's about sleep.

Kiwibonga told me in another thread that when we dream, our consciousness visits other people/places, etc. Now there have been times when I've been feeling really miserable or unhappy about something, and been crying a bit beforehand, and I feel tired, so I end up dozing off for a bit. Sometimes, when I wake up, I feel just as bad as I was feeling before. However, there are times when I've woken up, and I'm not feeling bad. I feel, if not exactly happy, at least not sad. I feel more peaceful. I feel as though my mind has been cleansed of what was troubling it.

Admittedly, this is a temporary feeling. Sometimes I'm feeling unhappy about whatever it is again that same day, or I'll start feeling that way again tomorrow, or whenever. But for a period, I'm not feeling bad.

So, my question is, can our consciousness travel somewhere, while we're asleep, and heal itself of whatever its feeling unhappy about (even if it's only temporary?)

I'd suggest practicing regularly - but that may be something you already do anyway. But I suppose the more you practice, the better you'll get, and (hopefully) the easier it will be to project.

Good luck, Nikk!

No dude i dont think you understand me : Sadly i lost my mum at christmas last year and i would really like to go and see her and talk to her in the astral but i read somewhere that when you meet someone in the astral they say what you expect them to and that it is not acctually them speaking to you from the other side..

Is this true?

I think that would only be true if what you really saw wasn't your mother, but rather a vision of your mother that your imagination had conjured up.

I've read that it is possible to meet real people in the astral, either living ones or dead ones. If you met your mother, but she was only a figment of your imagination, then she probably would only say what you expect her to say.

If, however, you actually met your real mother, and she wasn't something you imagined, she was the real thing (I'm sorry to call her a "thing", I couldn't think of what else to put) then it would really be her you're speaking to, and she should be entirely in control of what she can do and say.

Good luck, Astraldude! I hope you succeed! 

I don't intend to smite anybody. Applauding just seems so much...nicer...for me.

Before I posted this message, I saw my post count (which was 89 then) and for a second, I thought I was looking at my karma rating. I thought, "Wow, who's done all that?" Then I realised it was my post count.

Wow, that was incredible! The last time I looked, Nay was at 11, and I come on today, and she's at 57!  I was quite surprised.

But TalaNay seems like a very nice person to me, so the more karma the better, I suppose.

I'm glad you're feeling better...oh well, at least you know what to do if it happens again. 

Congratulations, Nikk!  Hopefully it will get easier each time, and you'll be able to have a proper look around, and go places, see people, that kind of stuff.

Thanks for explaining, Mydral. I must admit, I did believe Leyla until you said that she was probably just paranoid. I kept imagining khaki-clad environmentalists planning to track down members (totally different in personality to Steve, of course.) I don't know a great deal about him, but I think he would have found astral projection stuff mildly interesting.

Thanks, Hagethuriel, I'll try that if it should happen again.

There have been times when I've thought I've felt "presences" around me. I don't know whether these feelings are accurate, though. It doesn't happen often.

I have only just read the thread created by Leyla (which has now been closed) and was confused about the references to some crazy reptilian hunters who have apparently posted here in the past.

Can anyone enlighten me about this matter?

I must admit, when I read "reptilian hunter", the first thing that came into my head was Steve Irwin, because he was known as "The Crocodile Hunter", even though he didn't actually hunt animals and who, as you can see, is in my avatar, and who I like and respect enormously. He's one hell of a nice guy, too. I have quite a vivid dream about him on Sunday night, which was very pleasant. Crocs rule!

But yes, as I was saying, who are these crazy reptilian hunters referenced in Leyla's thread and what have they posted here in the past?

Whoever they are, they're probably lnothing like good old Steve.

It's just in your case Skippy there are so many things that could have been going on while in a bathroom shower.  The stream alone can cause curtains to flap..  When I saw our spirit I was sitting on the couch reading the tv guide, in the middle of the day.  When my brother saw her, he was standing at the top of the stairs on his way to the bathroom, in the middle of the night.  Not much going on in either situation.

I'm not saying what you experienced wasn't a ghost, I'm just saying it could have been other things due to the enviroment you were in at the time.  If you're up for it, ask them to show themselves in better situations.

You're right. People here are so level-headed and sensible. And some people I've told about astral projection think people who believe in it are a bunch of crazy fools who are out of touch with reality! If only they could just see the personalities some of you guys have (and others from different AP websites) some of their opinions might change.

I'd never want to see a ghost at night time...unless it was one I knew somehow, or recognised as a nice person - say a family memeber, or Elvis, or someone like that. But I wouldn't want a stranger to just come up and spook me in the middle of the night. If a ghost that I don't know is going to show himself, I'd rather it be in the daytime. I would imagine I'd be less scared.

Welcome, Jeehad.  Are you the same age as Goober, then? Do you know him offline, or are you an online friend?

That sounds really unpleasant, bounda, I hope you feel better soon. Try to get plenty of rest and drink a lot.

Maybe we could send some healing energy your way (sending psychic thoughts to you to get well, or something like that.)

You might be right.  I didn't get very far last night, although part of that was due to the fact that I had to be up early today, and I had to get to sleep early, so I didn't practice for very long.

Thanks for the kind words.  It's nice to receive encouragement. I was pleased about Sunday night, because previously, I've usually felt that I'm not getting very far.

The Conners aren't white-trash - they're working-class

I suppose you're right, Stookie. The reason I referred to them as white-trash was because I saw an episode where Roseanne herself said they were a white trash family.

I like My Name Is Earl too. My favourite TV show is Frasier. I love all of the characters, although Frasier is probably my favourite. I love how pompous and blustering he can get.

Sounds like you could have been out and didn't know it!  I've plenty of times, reached up to scratch and my "astral arm" came up instead.

Do you really think I could have been!?    It didn't feel as though I got out (it felt more like my astral body was inside me, straining to get out) but now after readng what you said, I'm beginning to wonder! Is it possible that I got out, temporarily...?

Thanks for the well-wishes, TalaNay.  I'm quite impatient to finally be able to do it. I'm going to try again tonight. Unfortunately, sometimes, when I make some progress, I then seem to flag a bit, and it can be a while before I progress again. I hope that won't happen this time, though! I'm anxious to get out and about!

You could be right, TalaNay. I'm not completely sure it was a spiritual entity. It was just a feeling I got, and I could have been wrong.

It's nice to think it was a friendly spirit, though. And like you say, Bane, I suppose it is a good idea to trust our instincts.

I think I made some progress last night. I was practicing and after a while, I tried out the Rope Technique, and my body started to tingle and shake as usual, with my eyebrows fluttering. However, this time, I also felt some swaying (not intense swaying, but I've heard this is a good sign anyway.)

Eventually, I gave up, as the shaking/tingling was getting too intense, and I still can't get past it. However, when I gave up I felt distinctly disorientated (which I've also heard is a good sign.) I sat up for a moment and then, as I was lying back down, I felt a sort of tugging on my face - it felt as though my astral face was pulling to get out of my physical face. Of course, it stopped after a couple of seconds, but I was pleased about it. It seemed like I made some progress last night.

Maybe I should try standing on my head.