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Dear Links Shadow,

It has to be unpasturized though.  Yes, I love honey.  It was used by the Romans to preserve some of their more important dead, (from the battlefield) until they returned to Rome....sometimes months later. You will never be able to eat honey on toast in the same appetizing way again.[:O] Honey runs a close second to garlic in my books.[]

Regards,
timeless

Dear Tisha,

I just wanted to say I think you are doing a great job moderating and I really like the Netiquette idea and found it an excellent read.[8D]

Back on topic.  If the user comes with an attitude of keeping an open mind then this is not a cult.  There are vastly different opinions, religious backgrounds, concepts, experiences and ideas presented on this board.  They force you to THINK.  In a cult (negative cult at least) the last thing they want you to do is think for yourself.  They want to tell you how it is.  Personally, I think each of us has to find God in our own way, our own time, and with our own unique flare.  The ways that take longer...well so what...if time is irrelavent then that can't be much of an issue.  Besides you probably see a lot more along a longer road.

On an amusing note...I wonder why the word occult has the word cult in it[?]

Best Regards,
timeless []

Dear PeacefulWarrior,

I am very confident you will enjoy an excellent marriage Peaceful Warrior.  I am very impressed with how you seek to understand others -- even if they hold a very different opinion then your own.[]  You are an 'I' person who states their perspective as apposed to a 'you' accusational arguementative person, as discussed in the links Link's Shadow provided.

And you have good taste in movies.[]  I cannot watch half the movies my husband picks.[]

Plus, I never take things too seriously. After all it was just a dream.  However, it was a fascinating one that had some fascinating concepts.  It was profound in that it got me thinking in a new way, which I enjoy since I am a writer...or would rather like to call myself a writer.[]

All the very best to you and your wife,
timeless  

Dear EnderWiggin,

I would not worry too much about finding the right person.  I dated an awful lot before finding my man.  It took me a long time to find him.  The thing is...he was having the same problem.  He refused to marry someone who was not right for him.  Energy work does help us avoid detrimental relationships. Of course no one is perfect.  What we have to do is know what we can live with and what we cannot.  I could never live with someone who loved to argue and bicker and had zero interest in moving past this stage.  I could live with someone who is blunt and to the point, as men often are.

I do not know the context behind your mother's words.  Many women hate when men condescendingly help the poor weak female.  This drives most women nuts...except the southern belles...maybe.  But I love how my husband helps me.  We are a team.  He enjoys pretending to be condescendingly helpful to see if he can get a little rise out of me, but never means anything by it.    

A lot of emotional, mental and spiritual growth occurs in the twenties.  I am glad I did not meet my husband until I was in my late twenties.  I would not have been ready for the relationship until then.  

I think Link's Shadow introduced a very profound concept in the links he provided.  The link on the Crown chakra was fascinating because I find a lot of telepathy has formed between my husband and I.  Those links mention some of what you are talking about how chakra energies mix.  

I think the best way for a man to understand women is to understand yourself.  Women are not so much of a mystery.  Insecurity in women is annoying (I dislike it in myself) but a secure woman is no more talkative then a man and no more needy than a man. I find many women do not work, in work environments, that develop the same confidence and tough mindedness.  Engineering sure did that for me.  Opps! Used up my time limit for the day.  Got to work on my book.  Wonderful to see you again EnderWiggin.[]

Best Regards,
timeless

Dear Links Shadow,

This is great information.  Thank you so much.  

It is interesting because occassionally I will see wisps of energy linking between the chakras between myself and my daughter.  I have never seen these between me and my husband, though I am sure they do.  

I love the I vs. you concept.  Learning to explain to someone your perspective instead of attacking them.   This I think it incredibly important when dealing with children.  Children need to understand perspective without feeling attacked...so they grow up with a strong, healthy self image.

Respectfully,
timeless

Dear Tisha,

I am quite comfortable claiming myself to be a Christian. To me a Christian is someone who respects Christ and his teachings.  A Christain follows the teachings recorded by the disiplines who walked, talked, ate and slept with him...bye bye Paul).  NOT the teachings and rules set by the jokers who came after Jesus died (i.e. Paul) who claimed to know the will and have the ear to hear the resurrected Jesus and God.  

Mind you, I was not raised on fundementalist Christianity. The United Church of Canada is officially a Christian church and I was christened into this church.  Yet we allow gay ministers.  We do not pay much attention to the gospels written by Paul[:O] and focus on Jesus' recorded teachings.  One of our lay preachers is gay and married in our church.  WOW!  Scary for other Christians out there eh!  Only in Canada eh!  

The United Church has its sins which it is paying for.  We were the first of three Canadian churches to compensate North American Indian peoples who were taken away from their families and some very badly treated in the name of Jesus.[!]  There are always some really rotten apples in any religion, cult, group.  It's these types of fanatical, unbalanced members that rot the religion and church. They ignore the fundementals of Christianity, love, compassion, understanding.

On an interesting side note, right now the Canadian government is very close to approving same sex marriages. This fall or winter we hear. The province of Ontario has already approved it and gay couples in Ontario are given all the privileges enjoyed by heterosexual married couples.  One province in particular is strongly against same sex marriage.  Guess which one...you guessed it Alberta...home of the largest group of fundementalist Christians in Canada. The Pope has written letters to our prime minister Jean Creten (purposely misspelled this) and his presumed successor Paul Martin.  They are both practicing Roman Catholics (actually attend church regularly). Both say they are going to ignore the Pope on this.  After all the Pope is just a guy (who may or likely does not have the ear of God) and Jesus never said anything against homosexuality. So while Paul Martin and Creten may now not be considered good Roman Catholics I consider them good Christians. Many Canadian Christians feel that if homosexuality was such a sin, Jesus would have said something. He did not.

Not interested in a debate with any fundementalists out there.[xx(]  The [xx(] is for the debate not the fundementalists.  If you really hate all this, say what you will, have at her.[] I will still consider myself a Christian. I believe Jesus was one of the greatest prophets and masters to walk this earth. But my church does not promote him as the only way to reach 'heaven'.  

Regards,
timeless[]

[I leave my most important point till last]

Okay!  So I'm trying to finish the revision of my book.  My daughter is away at horse camp for two weeks so it is the perfect time to really get this finished.  But.....

You have just raised the most important question one could ever ask on this board.

To me anything can be turned into a cult like following.  Think of music rock star fans and TV/movie star fans. Idolization is a big problem in any society.  Religious and spiritual cults are perhaps the most dangerous though.  Why?  Because the 'power' of God is associated with them.  Some Joe somewhere has the ear of God.  WOW!  Now we have a problem.

There are a million reasons to get sucked into a cult.  After all think of the benefits.
(1) I am special by association
(2) I no longer have to feel insecure
(3) I can finally make a difference.
(4) I don't have to clean up all my nasty habits inside (Hardest thing in the world to do).  Now all I have to do is follow rules AB&C. It might not get to the root of the problem but I have the feeling I am really getting somewhere.
(5) I am going somewhere (big fear people inside must people is that they are not getting anywhere spiritually)
etc.

What is the common thread in all of these thoughts. Insecurity and need for respect. Insecurity causes us to want to be part of a group, so we know we are accepted, appreciated, loved, made to feel special.  It is insecurity that allows us to give our all to one person, one idea, one obsession.  

The only thing that could separate this messageboard from a cult is open mindedness.  It is the user not the board that makes something a cult.  If the user comes with an open mind and wishes to share, learn, and not say I have the ear of God then all should be fine.  I have my guides but who is to say they know it all.  I am certain they do not.  This is why I like Si-Fi and fantasy.  One can explore new thoughts without (hopefully) people getting all fanatical and latching onto a concept and saying that is the way it is.  

Never get pegged into a hole. Never let someone tell you this is the way it is.  Never take in anothers belief until you have tested it through and through and know it is right for you.  

I leave my most important point till last.  
It is not what we know or preach.  It is what we practice.  If someone is not acting in a God-like manner then they do not have the will of God or the ear of God.  And even if they do act in our vision of what God-like behaviour is (i.e. humility, grace, compassion etc.).  We still must question... otherwise how will we truly understand.  
Thank you Goingslow for your most excellent thoughts and questions.

Regards,
timeless

Now I have to get back to my book.  It is like a monkey on my back demanding my attention.[]

Dear goingslow,

You might get a kick out of this.  Jesus drank wine with almost every dinner he had.[:O] Or so they say. I don't know how good the quality of the wine was[?] I mean the guy turned water into wine so how well aged could it be.[] But when you drink one drink every day it actually has little effect.  

Personally, I drink a beer now and then.  My favorite is to have shanties.  This is gingerale and beer mixed together.....Hey!  It's good after you have mowed the lawn in 27 Celcius or above humid weather.  But I can only recall getting drunk four times in my life.[:O]  I was one of those annoying girls that went to the bar to dance with her girlfriends and rarely got off the dance floor.[]

Bottom line I think the only unwise thing about drinking is drinking to the point where you get headaches or any unwell feeling.  Of course, getting drunk is extremely unwise and unbalancing...physically and etherically.  


Nezzera!

You are just killer.[][] But man you are right.  Where are the good old days of people talking about their experiences and their cool discoveries.  

Best Regards,
timeless[]

Dear beavis,

The path to God (who has a thousand names) is not 'one' path.  The path refers to a person keeping in mind -- 'the end goal' -- the bringing of mind, body, soul in-line with the Source.  If you deviate from this end in mind and start thinking and feeding only self, ego, image, personal desire then you are off the path...off your road...and things will not fit in until you get back on the path you have chosen to the Creator.

You may wish to reread 4) and/or my explanations of 4) in posts to others.  

5) What is the Angelic Kingdom?  Some Christains use the term Angelic Kingdom to refer to the Higher Planes.  This is a bit inaccurate.  Although as one reaches the higher planes and teaches we learn how to open the veils between kingdoms so it is not completely inaccurate. The statements in my original post come from Christian Theosophy which I am studying.  For a more accurate definition of the Angelic Kingdom please refer to the following link.
http://www.multidimensions.com/con_thoughts_hierarchy.html

6) Always 'keep the end in mind' is how I interperted this statement. Don't get side tracked and stuck on any mental mind set, method or theology.  

timeless

Dear Michael Ghostwolf,

Thank you for your recommendation. Yesterday I ordered 'On Writing' via interlibrary loan.  Steven is definitely a master of suspense.

Regards,
timeless

I would like to add another book to the list I have read:
"Scene and Structure" Bickham, Jack. M.   Rating 4 out of 5 stars
ISBN 0898795516
This book covered information not discussed in any of the other books I listed above.  It is extremely helpful for learning how to write scenes and how to link scenes. I loved Chapter 10: Common Errors in Scenes and How to Fix Them.

Thank you for taking the time to write a wonderfully detailed response.  I would like to explain my thoughts on 4) and 5).

You made a good point.I believe that everyone passes onto one of the Mental spheres sooner or later, often before reincarnation. The Astral body will gradually dissolve as all passions and desires are satiated. The Mental body will then progress to the level of the Mental worlds consistent with level of Spiritual development.

I agree this is the normal progression.  However, I have seen people on the lower astral that seem to be empty shells.  For example a person crouched rocking back and forth as if still experiencing tremendous trauma.  Yet when one tries to communicate with such 'beings?' it is as if the mental aspect has left them.  I almost wonder if after a period of time a decision is made to discard the astral and emotional and leave them in the lower astral if no progress can be made.  I think also that great emotional trauma is much harder to overcome then mindset in the astral (generally speaking).  I think prayer for those who have just passed traumatically is important. I guess the discarding of the astral and emotional bodies could be equated to the spirit leaving a physical body that is in a coma?  

5) The word bondage means (to me) that we are held by our belief systems (mental habits), physical bad habits, emotional bad habits, etc.  These things hold us in the cycle of reincarnation.

Deepest Regards,
timeless

Dear jilola,

2) The statement (2) in my original post is not very clear.  Brevity resulted in lack of clarity.  When I was a child I ended up in some pretty scary places in the lower astral.  Hence my desire to not bother much with the astral.  However, what I call the mid to upper astral is quite nice -- dream homes with nice gardens.  The astral is a big region with many levels in itself.  I think the answer to this question very much depends on what level a person has visited.  I am using the term 'level' loosely here.

4) Leaving what's remaining?  
You know how after Jesus died he needed three days for full resurrection.  My impression is that this was needed so that his astral and emotional bodies could not just be dissolved but that their energy be 'absorbed'(poor word couldn't think of anything better) back into his higher self.  I see the emotional and astral bodies as costumes we put on when we play our role in the play of life.  They are not truly what we are but a vehicle for learning.  Hope that explains what this statement was trying to get at.


5) What is "Mastership"?  
Good question.  I think only one who as achieved Mastership can fully explain this.  My best attempt would be to say that we have fully discovered that the mental, emotional and astral bodies are molds created for learning and are set in this lifetime by what we have done in the past (our character and temperment so to speak).  When we are masters over them and not the other way around (past experience influencing present) we have achieved mastership.  Or in other words, when we are able to act in love physically, emotionally, and mentally (mentally = thought level) and not react to situations, we have achieved Mastership.


Dear Spellcast91,

I must apologize.  I added 6) after you responded.  You responded immediately after I posted and I forgot I had wanted to include 6).


Dear All,
Thanks to everyone who has responded thus far.  Hope and look forward to hearing more thoughts on this topic.


Respectfully,
timeless

Dear PeacefulWarrior,

I like the movies coming out of Hollywood recently.  They seem to be getting more into psychology (character development), Sci-Fi, and even spirituality -- all stuff I love.  It sounds like Hollywood is also going back to fundementals -- character and plot.  Thank heavens!  

And Thank You for taking the time to post this movie review.  It sure got me interested in seeing this movie.  Will do.[]

Regards,
timeless[]

Hey speedcubist,

Your vibrating eyes caught my attention.  Everything looks blurry and shakes.


Welcome to the club!  This is called Saccadic Nystagmus.  They say 1 in 500 people can do this voluntarily.  Unfortunately, for some it happens when they do not want it to.

I am in the voluntary group and find the more light there is the faster I can make my eyes giggle.  It served me well in my life.  If a guy was bothering me (say at a bar), all I had to do was look at one of the lights, look back at him and totally freak him out.  The ability to look possessed is wonderful don't you think[].

All the Best,
timeless[]

Dear Tisha,

This is an older one but a good one.

A blonde walks into the bank and asks to take out a small $200 loan.  When asked what she had for collateral she points to her red 2003 CLK200 KOMPRESSOR sports car.  She says, "I'll leave it and my keys here for good measure."  

The bank manager is called over because of this extraordinary situtation and when he sees the car out the window he starts to salivate.  He asks, "Why do you need a $200 loan with a car like that?" he asks.

The blonde giggles and says, "Spending money for a little trip I'm taking. HeHeHe."  

The bank manager thinks, "Sounds reasonable for a blonde and look at those headlights (NOT THE GIRL -- THE CAR! GEEZ YOU GUYS!)." He says outloud, "Sure we'll let you take out the loan."  

A month later the blonde returns to the bank with a beautiful tan, pays out the loan with it's $8 of interest.  

The manager returns the keys and laughs, "Did your spending money come in handy?"  

The blonde replies, "Sure did!  This is the cheapest parking I have ever found this close to the airport."

Good Day All,
timeless[]

P.S. I'm a natural dirty blonde.  NO! NO! The hair is dirty, I mean dark blonde. I am as pure as the driven snow.

Dear MosesB,

I LOVE typos.  I sure hope you do not fart an unbelievable load[:O].
I'm sure you meant loud[]...right...I hope.

Regards,
timeless

Dear Negremoval5,

I look forward to learning from you. You have made my day.[]

Respectfully,
timeless

Dear Negremoval5,

Sorry I was not clear in my explanation. I meant that even if they dog you it will not bother you.  Even if they try to push every button you ever had it will not bother you.  Because by then you have found all your buttons and understand why they set you off.  You will understand why silly things people do bother you so much.  You will realize just how silly some comments really are.  

Try to ignore (not swat) people who are acting silly until you can disable as many of your buttons as possible. We can all be silly at one time or another -- making flippant comments or giving little jabs.  These jabs and comments are usually defense mechanisms born out of old wounds. You say something that seems harmless and then they associate what you have said with some horrible jackass they knew. You are not a jackass but with just one or two key trigger words they can suddenly imagine you are just like so and so who did this and this to me or my friend.  Brandishing an even bigger weapon will only make them remember a bigger wound and then bigger defense mechanisms will be pulled out.  When we start understanding these defenses inside ourselves we can start feeling more compassion for others as we watch their defense mechanisms in play...even as they are yelling at us.

People have strong reactions to different things.  Imagine someone who had a stern unloving strict minister as a father.  They might have a wild reaction to someone claiming to know God.  We do not know each others buttons only guess at them.  We can all accidentally step on a each others buttons and set off chain reactions.  Just try to be aware each person here is bringing in their own personal garbage.  Handling this requires patience and a cool head.  

The great thing about this forum is you can work on ignoring silliness.  No one here can hold you at gunpoint fortunately.  There are no corners except a nice Writer's Corner -- so no reason to feel trapped.

I am so glad to here you want to work on developing new strategies to deal with others[].

Best Wishes,
timeless[]

Dear jilola,

See I need to hang around more Finnish people.  I have only been around Swedes.  So I only have one side of the story![]

Best Regards,
timless[]

Dear Silva,

Why throw in a thorn if you are not going to talk it through and try to come to a greater understanding?  We are here to bring out the best in each other not the worst....aren't we?  Or are we here to externalize some dramatic play that is going on inside...perhaps in the hopes that if it is externalized we might actually figure it out.  That which we give is what we receive.  


Dear No Leaf Clover and Nay,

Awww!  That was what was meant by chat. Sorry for misunderstanding. I have never been to the chatroom.  I will stop posting now.  Good luck too all.  My post count means nothing anyways....or it should mean nothing.


Regards to All,
timeless

Dear ronaldo,

I am also falling on the floor laughing.  You have just used another classic form of deflection.  Point the finger at me.[]  This is such a FUN game we could play it for a lifetime and never learn a damn thing but have FUN trying.[]

Regards,
timeless

Dear Nay,

Who is bored?  This is likely the most important discussion ever placed in this forum.  Will we look within -- the scariest yet most rewarding experience of all?  Far from boring!

Regards,
timeless

Dear ronaldo,

Why are you worried about what Negremoval thinks.  That is not the important question.  The important question is why are you still trying to deflect?  

What is playing out here is an externalization of the war within all of us.  The same play will be repeated again and again and again.  Just in different forms with different players until finally we 'get it'.  The problem is within...not outside ourselves.

Regards,
timeless

Dear Nay,

No Nay.  Kromeknight made it clear from the very beginning that he took no side.  However, it would seem odd to talk nicely to someone who insulted your friend.  I could see myself wanting to reasure the friend.  I did not say you wanted anyone to take your side.  However, you must admit when we feel insecure it is a relief when someone does.

Nay if there were no sides, there would not have been an arguement. Instead there would have been people helping each other take the scary step inwards to look deeper at what we all suffer from to some degree or other.

Regards,
timeless

Dear Negremoval5,

Culture does have an affect but I do not think it played any role in this situation.  

The important things to understand are:
- We cannot change others
- We can only change ourselves
- We cannot expect others to change, that is their responsibility
- We can see ourselves (US) in THEM.  Anything we dislike about their behaviour likely stems from a flaw we have within.  Better to examine the flaw within then try to make them change.  If we fix the flaw then THEY will not bother us anymore because we will have gained wisdom and compassion for THEM. We realize we could do exactly the same silly thing if we did not know ourselves better.  Trying to change others and rationalize ourselves is an exercise in frustration and futility -- better to go the root inside with humility.

Regards,
timeless