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When I'm in complete paralysis my neck hurts as a try to leave my body. Often it hurts, and when I wake up, there is a dull ache. But when out of body, I stop feeling it. It's like the part of my spirit body that sticks to my physical...or my ethereal head is ridiculously heavy.

also i've heard that people can have vibrations so intense that they may pass out for a few seconds.

And some people don't experience vibrations at all. I never have. 

Wouldn't a yogi be more willing (than an average person) to accept why he is here with or without knowing the reason? I would tend to think that...

Is there any hope for someone with paranoid schizophrenia?  I´ll admit it, I did it to myself.  I used to do a lot of drugs, including meth...  but I haven´t in two years, due to my condition.

It is not your fault. There is no such thing as drug induced Schizophrenia. But there is a high rate of drug use in Schizophrenics, many are prone to self-medicating. Glad you're not using drugs anymore. I wish you the best and do hope you find some answers to improving your situation. If you're unsatisfied with your treatment, perhaps new medications or doctors are in order.

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I used to listen to them constantly. Not anymore. I guess I associate them with a very painful and unhealthy time in my life. It's weird because as soon as doctors figured out what was wrong with me and I got better, I didn't want to listen to them anymore...like the improvement in my health and physiology changed my perception of the music. One song I will still listen to and like a lot is The Patient. The rest is just too dark for my tastes now.

Well, I wouldn't say that you should screw your ememies over either...but I don't agree that you should have to do anything for them if they treat you horribly. If someone is bent on treating you bad, don't waste your time on them. No one deserves pain, but some people deserve nothing. If you are as good a person as you say, then in this life you already deserve not having to deal with those particular people. Let them be, changing is up to them only.

Karma, I believe, is a matter that is up to you in which way you pay each debt. So if you believe firmly this is karma, it's possible it really is. I have a lot of strange karma, but I know it was assigned (sort of) by me. Not some force beyond my control. I think there is a matter of guilt and forgiveness involved in each karmatic debt. You suffer to learn, you do not suffer to suffer. Don't see this as a penalty or beyond your control...don't stop to feel sorry for yourself, that's the most counterproductive thing you can do.

Continue to be yourself and help others as you see fit. But try not to exhaust your good nature on those who don't appreciate it. You will be happier once you discard the desire to please those who cannot be pleased.

...and I guess it's not entirely impossible that he may have suffered from anorexia. I'm not joking at all. Mortally he could have gone so far with the help of such a condition. I hope I don't rile anyone diagnosing a very spiritual man with a medical condition. You can be very spiritual, I think, and still suffer such things.

It's a shame.

Now I am seeing people as demons seeing the demon inside

Not a good thing to be seeing. What you are seeing isn't actually there.

Many people throughout history have seen such things and ended up feeling so passionately they killed innocents in a mission to eradicate what they mistakenly perceived as evil. Human beings are not demons and demons do not live inside of them. Human beings can be ignorant and abusive, or seem terrible, but they are either horrid byproducts of horrid experiences (mind you, they allow themselves to be and do not try to be better people) or they are mentally disturbed...whether it be due to chemical or physical abnormalities in the brain.

There are no demon people, demons living in people or whispering in their ears.

It's possible to, intentionally or unintentionally. Done it a few times with a few different people. Sometimes, the unintentional times, can be unnerving and you will only realize it was a shared experience when the other happens to share the dream with you in conversation.

It could happen more than we believe it to, often most people just don't think to tell others a dream they had about them. I think most would not tend to assume it was actually projection with that other person anyway.

And cats.  They know when a storm is coming.  And they sure as hell know when electric gadgets are about to blow.

They especially know right before they're about to barf into them. The family cat barfed into the cable modem last month and took out both the phone line and internet. A cat we had before her barfed into the back of a TV and destroyed it. They're funny creatures. 

Oh, and I agree with what was said in your post.

I don't think you meet it, or can speak with it. I think you become it, inside a few moments if you are able.

Some comments:  There have been experiments done on galvanic skin response on plants (done by the guy who discovered/invented the process, whose name escapes me), in which there was a sharp change in reading when the experimenter spoke or thought about pruning said plant.  So it appears that there is some sort of reaction to the thought of doing violence against the plant.  I would go as far as to deduce from that, given the readings to be correct, that plants don't like to be pruned, even if it's for their own good.

Similar or the same content: The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird.

It would be a good learning experience for some.

Others only know how to help other people...and not themselves. I think the key is finding some sort of balance, so that you are doing what you want most to do -- whether it's helping others or yourself -- without neglecting your needs or those of everyone else you really care about.

I have slowly learned to never feel guilty when I am selfish. I am part of the group of others that tends more toward ignoring their own needs over everyone elses. Believe me, it was to an unhealthy degree that I used to be selfless.

Now when I'm torn between doing something helpful for another over what is best for myself, I'm always reminded of the instructions given before takeoff on a plane in the case cabin pressure is lost...to assist yourself before helping others with the oxygen mask. It's absolutely necessary that you are able to help yourself before you can help others. In life, in many situations...you're no help to anyone before you have helped yourself.

This has happened a rare few times in recent history...I wonder under what very special circumstances a human being actually survives such an extreme plummet. It's something to think about.

I like looking at them all the same. 

I keep returning to an island where the people I see wear a lot of white linen, and straw hats. Very tropical. I always see more men than women. I never look to see what I'm wearing though...

When I first came to these forums and read about vibrations and noise, so many people were claiming to experience them I was convinced for a little while I hadn't been achieving true OBE's without having them. That I needed to be having them. I have never felt vibrations at all, or heard a thing when I exit.

I do not use an exit technique, I've always had it happen automatically and I don't force it...it's harder to make it happen when I want it to and when I focus...

I cannot see anything either...but my eyesight is also horrible

  my favorite part of that movie.

The Lost Room sounds like something I could get into. Maybe when I move back to US I'll look into catching an episode. For a long time I resisted TV, but I recently realized it's very...ahh calming. 

Oh that's okay. It is hard to believe. I'm not very concerned with anyone thinking that I'm lying, In fact the only person who believes me is my mom (she believes it happened that many times, not that it was me  ). Not going to try hard to convince. It's only happened four separate times at one store. If each time things went differently I wouldn't think it was true interference, I wouldn't think anything of it. Every time, I have been in a really tight situation that was incredibly stressful, where all I think about is where money will come from throughout the entire day. Each time I looked up into the cashiers eyes and just smiling they handed me all of my money back...plus whatever change I was owed (so more money than I handed them). About the third time I thought it was me, fourth time I felt certain, because I have other talents. Maybe I should be a magician.

But here is another way to look at it...
Maybe it is just that money finds its way into my hands, when I worry about it too much. I've also found a lot of large bills on the ground in the past year. If it's just people being utterly careless with money at the most opportune time for me, I'm fine with that too! As long as I don't starve. But it's gotten to the point that it at least seems something, God, myself, or the universe is taking care of me. I don't think I'll ever fully depend on whatever it is, but I haven't been let down by it yet. Mom thinks it's more likely a God/universe thing.

Using the words bewitch or enchant are just "cooler", self-serving words to describe manipulation, imo.

Oh I know, I think so too, though I could have chosen any word, even the word itself. I wasn't trying to evade the word. I tend to agree with your perspective more than most around here. I like your honesty


Manipulation is all-encompassing. We are always either manipulating or being manipulated by everything, living and non living...we manipulate our environments they manipulate us. Subtle or overt, positive or negative. It's not as evil or as filthy a concept as everyone thinks. If each person here would like to avoid ever doing it I suggest turning yourself to stone.

Everyone hears it or reads it -- good example is the beginning of this thread -- and believes it can only ever apply to something malicious. But you can manipulate for betterment. You can put people on the right path and improve their lives through "foul" manipulation. Even suggestion is manipulation based on your relationship with a person, your advice could be regarded very highly.

It is all intention.
Do I sometimes get out of a ticket to save my own skin? of course and it doesn't hurt anyone. But the grocery store scenario is always completely different, my intention is to not wind up in the intensive care unit, of course. But it's also my intention to save my boyfriend and family a coronary each and $1,200+. Not entirely selfish.


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I don't like thinking it's a supernatural occurrence, my choice of words is poor...but I can't help but think it is something more subtle than I can define. I've only once rubbed one person the wrong way...hahahahaahah or bad enough so that they thought they should mention something.

I was a bit of a recluse in high school. That's one group who always either seemed afraid or something else, my peers, but I didn't talk much.

If I may be so bold.... with your looks astir, people tend to fall over themselves to please you or get in your good graces.  I openly admit I used my looks when I was in my teens to "manipulate" people.  You may not know you're doing it but it isn't anything more than using ones looks to get what you want, consciously or subconsciously.  It was learned, absolutely, you just don't realize it.  I would also hazard a guess your mother and grandmother had some good looks too, which would be the "witchiness" to them.   Using the words bewitch or enchant are just "cooler", self-serving words to describe manipulation, imo.

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But I don't often look the way I do in pictures. Those were taken with make up on, I really don't wear it more than once a month. I am more plain in person, I have no eyelashes, discolored skin, and my teeth are quite large and crooked, a bit grizzly. I really don't try, don't care to. I'll take a normal picture with my mouth open and post it, how I really look on a daily basis.  I actually have gotten away from sharing the dolled up photos, they're deceiving.
Thanks all the same.

I didn't always doll up so well. I was ugly (not exaggerating) ages 8-16. A bog witch. Quite a long awkward stage if you ask me. I was resigned to looking that way, it didn't bother me, but my looks matured and my features changed dramatically around 17 (even the bump in my nose reduced!). Before 17 people still wanted to help me as often, as much. I clearly didn't need looks.

Hmmm, explain why elderly women would be charmed by my looks, I'd like to hear. Because I've never heard of any woman caring or being swayed to help another woman based on beauty alone. I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not the most astute thing in the world when it comes to thwarting manipulation.

...and yeeees  my grandmothers and great grandmothers were all beautiful...naturally, unlike me. But they are witchy otherwise, beauty didn't help them to become what they were. I've seen many old photographs, none of them went through the bog witch stage that I did.  I'm sure it was simply a lesson I had to endure to become who I am, I came out of it well. Didn't give a damn about my appearance the entire time, and do not now.

I don't know... it might be the charisma because I have to talk to people, unlike Astir.

You can bewitch or enchant and have charisma.  

I can talk or not talk during these events. Eventually I want to find out for certain if it matters at all what I do with my body. I don't think it does. I don't know, I think you don't have to open your mouth for people to have a sense of your charisma. It can show in your face too...your presence.

I believe I have an inordinate amount of charisma as well. Overall I find many people just want to help me. Children act as if I'm not a stranger, they'll call out to me or start up a conversation with me, ignoring their parents...for no apparent reason. Always bewilders the parents.

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I already know know about the workings of the universe. I am not tempted to use it for ill. Because I have this ability I know I must also have a good heart to compliment it. Others might not, which may be the reason you warn...but I do have a good heart.

And a little starvation might seem harmless to some, while waiting in between paychecks. But I have a lot more to worry about than a normal, healthy person who goes starving. If I starve it is dangerous...it can be deadly. Everybody has to weigh their own choices. Putting myself in a situation where I go into ketoacidosis/fall into a coma, is not a choice I'm willing to make. Only in the tiniest way is that a selfish choice, to get a little free food.

Not having worked to gain this ability, I can only assume it was bestowed for the exact circumstances that I live with now.

My spirit guide appears to me as an owl...or just is one. It's the only animal in my dreams. Everything else always comes as a human hybrid, which I don't consider it an actual animal in that case.

When awake, owls often drift near me. Or I come across them on walks...anywhere really. I've had them cross my path a handful of times -- night or day -- and land some place nearby and then stare at me. There was one that perched on my roof at least every week for a month. And then one night I looked out the window to see its outline on the fence in the side yard, I didn't even startle him. They're very strange and interesting creatures. I only assume they like me  

Most people I know have never seen one in the wild, yet I see them every few months. So does my sister. I'm certain the owl is both my brother and sisters spirit guide. Each of us, when we were younger were supposed to paint an animal in art class at school (at different points in our lives). We all chose owls. My mom found all three paintings, framed and hung them.

When I was younger I never saw them, but almost every morning I woke to a strange bird call right outside the window that sounded like a slide whistle. A few years ago I learned this was the call of the Saw-whet Owl...it must have lived in this thick, tall juniper bush we had, I never once saw it but heard it very clearly.