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No_Leaf-

 I agree with most of what you wrote.  Powerful people conspire all the time to acquire and maintain power, and more often than not they use the force of government for this reason.  I have to say that I NEVER believe the government's story of what happened on 9/11, but then again I don't believe Micheal Moore's or Alex Jones's either.

That's absurd! Let's not forget that corruption and scandals are certainly nothing new to this age of American History even, from Teapot Dome to Watergate to the Iran-Contra Affar to Waco. It's been increasingly worse this whole past century. And all of this is only the corruption that has been exposed.

Notice how major scandals on tragic events happen with more frequency as the government gets larger.  Big government is a magnet for those that want to increase personal power and control, and thus is nothing new in human history.  Also, some famous person once wrote "War is the health of the State", and there is nothing more accurate.  I think it was a paper called "The project for a New American Century" that best describes the Bush Plan for war.

I agree that people conspire and you'll find most of the control freaks in government, however I just don't buy the whole Cabal of people with the same idealized goal or plot.  I especially don't buy the whole reptilian aliens controlling everything.  

The thing I am trying to get across is that no matter if there is or isn't a conspiracy the solution is still the same.  The solution is small government like our founding fathers in visioned (who by the way were EVIL Masons as some conspiracy people would say)  Without the reigns of government no control freak can commit mass genocide, police state, etc.  

Han

There is only one conspiracy that I would stake my name on:

http://www.somethingawful.com/learning_triangle/index.htm

I have infact just finished high school and was introduced to this sort of material by a friend.. who has a masters in teaching.. who was given david ickes book by her friend who has been a doctor for the past 15 years

WOW!!!! I totally retract everything I just said.

I take it you're anti-religion too? You'd have to be to make the claims you have, on people making predictions based on the bible, as that is pretty much all religion is. One collection of books or scriptures and such, read as (literal) holy words

The early Christians thought the end times were going to happen 100 years after Christ death, then every 100 years after that, then at the start of the new centuries, and now 2012.  Did you know that there were originally 2 end times in the bible but the church only kept the Apocalypse and removed the Apocrypha (good stuff happening).  Research this for yourself at www.earlychristianwritings.com  

Religion is used mainly as control of the masses.  Did you know that in the Dark Ages they kept the bible in the Greek form so the citizens could not read it, and had to rely on the Priest.  When Gutenberg invented the printing press and printed off enough bibles for the common man to have one he almost got arrested.  But then again, that is probably the devil making me type this stuff

And heter, get over it. Stop seeking attention from people that can't even see you.
Get out... or don't. Do whatever you want... that's pretty much the thing here, everyone is telling you to want to do some... "if you wanted to go for a walk and you did you'd be happy..... SO GO WALKING!".. doesn't quite work.
Maybe walking doesn't make you happy, maybe all it does is make you sore, tired and sweaty.
We havn't got the answers and even if we did you wouldn't accept them because you're content in whinging and complaining and getting a reaction.
So continue if that's what's gonna stop you from killing yourself, even though it's likely you wouldn't anyway

AMEN!!

All conspiracies do is make SOME people point to a Wizard of OZ, some all knowing force, that can pull off the  most amazingly intercate schemes without a hitch. Well my friend, this deflects from the very real reality that Government is a bumbling fool that is REALLY taking our rights away at the point of a gun.

In all, I think we both agree most conspiracies are bunk

Han

SteveB-

You might want to PM Frank about this topic, he was talking about doing something exactly like this.

As far as video taping the astral... well that may be accomplished once scientist can record you subconscious mind.

As far as the astral pictures of famous people....GIVE ME A BREAK!

Han

Keep in mind that 'kundalini' can be more than what many bargain for.


Lets assume for a moment that you have a car and it runs fine, at 60 MPH, on a well maintained highway. Now take that same car drop an engine in it that will do 200 MPH and drive it on rough uneven terrain.
If the tires and wheels are not perfectly balanced you will have a rough ride and damage the shocks and brakes and probably the engine mounts.
If you already have some of these problems they will be increased exponentially. If you have any transmission problems they will be exacerbated and decrease the life of the transmission. This is just car.

Imagine what it could be like with that type of energy in your body. It would be imperative to make sure that YOUR vehicle was in tip top condition including your mental and emotional equiptment.

My opinion would be to be a little conservative in experimenting with Kundalini untill such a time that my VEHICLE was tuned up.

THis seems to be the prevailing wisdom   However, this is akin to all the mystical websites out there saying that AP is ONLY for the MOST spiritually advanced, or that there are "negs" in the "Astral".  A bunch of Cr*p if you ask me, but most sites say something along these lines.

Nothing is going to happen to you my friend.  There is a big sticky post on this in the energy development section that I responded to.   It feels like someone played a trick on you and is electrocuting you.  A HUGE rush of energy rushes through your spine.  

However, what do I know mine was a spontaneous EXPLOSION of energy called upon by Mary Jane.  I don't smoke marijuana anymore, but that month I did I had Kundalini about 4 times.

It is about as subtle as a bull in a china shop

Han

I don't know about you guys but I have seen a "shadow person".  I had no idea what a shadow person was until after I saw it.  I searched Google by putting in Shadow + ghost, and it directed me to Art Bell  


I saw the shadow person when I was chilling in the family room reading a book, and I looked up from the book at the kitchen and there it was stepping into the doorway.  FREAKED ME OUT!  Some of you guys know me and I have to say I am a VERY skeptical person when it comes to all of this stuff.  So I guess I would be included in this belief.  I think this is the first time I have told anyone about this instance, please don't think i'm weird (and dont tell my friends)


Han

A mentally disabled girl I "looked out for" as kids was taken in by Mormons after her mother died suddenly of a blood clot.

They told this grieving teenaged girl that her MOTHER was BURNING IN HELL, and would stay there until she could afford to pay for her to be posthumously baptised.

So this little mentally retarded girl scrubbed laundry and swept floors to raise the money, to pay to the Mormon church.

They also taught her of the "evils" of drinking sodas and wearing short sleeve shirts.

God it p*sses me off just thinking of it

Evangelicals, or fundamentalist Muslims, would have probably done the same, although they would of told the girl that she was retarded because God is punishing her.  These type of people suck.

Another thing the Mormons are up to recently is taking their own teenaged boys and dumping them off on the side of the road like stray dogs.

The pervert mormon "Elders" want six or eight teenaged brides to themselves; so naturally good looking, fit, teenaged boys are their competition.

The local shelters are over run with these abandoned Mormon kids they call the "Lost Boys."

Girls, meanwhile, are given to a grown man soon as they start their first period. The shelters are also quite full of them too. Usually running away from forced marriages.

Usually when they pick up one of these starving, dirty, urchins they find they're so uneducated and don't even know how to read or write.

Wow.. these are some pretty strong claims.  I think it would be best to provide some evidence, or at least some links, to back up this assertion.

Han

I don't have problems paying for anything. I have seen people argue over all those things saying they should be free as well. I read Tesla found a way for everyone to have free electricity & the government squashed the idea because they make more money selling electricity.

Sorry about that then Runlola!   I too LOVE Tesla and hope some of his "lost" inventions can again be resurrected.  In fact, I can not wait to go to Focus 3 so MAYBE I can find him.  I know, sounds kind of "out there", but hey never hurts to try!  

I actually had a thread on Tesla and Quoted part out of his autobiography that shows that he Phased!  read it here :http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19164  (Edit: it seems you posted there!)

Han

How to become invisible:

This works especially well if you are trying to be invisible around women.  

1.  Don't take a shower for a couple of days.  Let your face break out.

2.  Wear something that is outdated for a couple a years.

3.  Always look down

4.  Kind of mumble a lot

5.  Be average or below in everything you do

Sorry I am not to good at being invisible, I prefer to be center stage.  The great thing about this technique is even if they do see you, you will be forgotten the moment you pass.

Han

Hi folks-

Ahh, the conspiracy theorist.  I run into them all the time.    Most of the conspiracy theorist don't know there As* from a hole in the ground, and yes I know ALL of the theories out there.  From Adam Wisecoff starting the Illuminati to skull and bones, CFR, Triladeral commission, Bildabergers, etc.  I have even read some conspiracy theory books and finally decided SO much of it is BUNK.  Does that mean that individuals in places of power don't help each other, no.  The books read like this: Rothschild was in league with Rockefeller to con troll the money through banks because Rockefeller's gardener knew Adam Chipshield, the head accountant for Disney who worked with Blah blah blah.  IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

IF, and that's a big "if", these conspiracies are true it doesn't help going around and telling people.  Nobody believes these people except 9th grade high school kids and Evangelical hicks.  The funny thing is the Evangelicals Constitutionalists will scream about this, but if you ask them they say that they want it to happen because Jesus is coming back to take them to heaven!

Assuming these conspiracies are true, the solution is and always will be small government.  You can cite specific examples of how government is NEVER the answer and that it never accomplishes anything. With out a big government these groups have NO control.  A big corporation can't enslave you or put you in a gulag.  Which brings me to a point.  Most of these "Constitutional" conspiracy theorist are for building a wall along the border and stopping all the Mexicans from getting in.  What they are too stupid to realize is that a border good enough to keep all the Mexicans out is good enough to keep us all in, and they are the ones screaming about a coming police state!

When asked what they are going to do about it they say "call talk shows and wake people up", when pressed they say "Nothing I can do about it, it is predicted in the Bible".  What a disempowering belief system!  These people won't even take a stand and say "enough" to the government.  Also, how come you are the only one that is not "brainwashed", and are you so sure you aren't?  Stop listening to Alex Jones and get out of the house and enjoy what freedoms you have, and start supporting those that are trying to increase your freedoms.  This exact discussion happened yesterday on www.freetalklive.com (look at the archives-Tuesdays show)

Also, about the 4D reptilian that David Icke talks about.  You want to commit suicide based on David Ickes testimony and his followers, COME ON!!!!!  Where is the proof, just one picture--besides that stupid picture of Al Gore mad!  Hell, I can look like that when I get mad, I know Alex Jones does. Is he a reptilian?

Government is the problem not the Illuminati.  Thomas Jefferson knew this when he said "The natural order of things is for Government to grow and Liberty to yield."

The answer is to support small government not research conspiracies.

Enjoy life,
Han

Runlola-

I agree with the first part of your post, however the second part confounds me.

Many things that should be free are not...school, healthcare, electricity, water, etc...

Should the teachers not get a salary, should the medical professionals not get paid, should the workers of the water company and electric company not get a salary?  Also, all the equipment that goes into building a electric company not be paid for?  This is the utopia fallacy.  The only way someone can get these services for "FREE" is by going to government and having them stick a gun in another persons mouth and demanding his money to pay for YOUR service.  This is not FREE nor a RIGHT.  In my previous post I said that ALL mutually beneficial exchanges are good.  However, this is one case of a NON mutually beneficial exchange, this is involuntary exchange by force! "

Also, ANYTIME government gets involved the costs go up for EVERYONE. This would also encourage waste of water and electricity, because hey "I'm not paying for it! For instance, some stupid lobbying group got together to have abortion covered by the insurance companies.  I don't care about the moral argument for or against abortion, but the fact of the matter is MY insurance costs went up and I AM A MAN!  One size never fits all and government can't do ANYTHING right.

Nobody OWES you (or me) anything,

HAN

Frank-

This sounds awesome!:

Anyhow, it's all early days yet but it is an exciting prospect (or it is for me at least) that the realisation or the knowing of how these Trans-Dimensional areas function, could hold the key to the eventual development of some kind of interdimensional craft. Not that I am saying that I personally could ever build one (perchance to dream!) but even to just get the theory down on paper would be a major step forwards.

If you could build this craft I could do the marketing.  We could literally make HUNDREDS of dollars!

Han

Mantra girl rocks!    I don't do yoga anymore, but this is still a good workout.  I think it is about 40 minutes.  Edit (run time is 1:20--Sorry)

Plus, Mantra girl and the girls on the DVD are all hot (they all want me), and the camera man must be commended.  Oh, and her music is very good like all the reviewers will attest.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000V8I3U/qid=1121208061/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/002-8543234-0808848?v=glance&s=dvd

Han

I would say that as long as your gift is REAL then it is more than alright to charge for your services.  This is a mutually beneficial exchange.  THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ANYTHING THAT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, PERIOD.  Think about it, in a free market society determines how beneficial your service is by how many people engage in free exchange with you.  Money is not evil.

However, there are SO many frauds out there, John Edwards is up for debate, that they give the psychics a bad name.  Have you ever seen an advanced cold reader and mentalist like Derren Brown perform?  They can blow the doors off of most "psychics".  Psychics that claim they can talk to the dead, but are little more than bad cold readers tinkle me off.

Han

No harm is done, and they are only wasting their time and money so no big deal.  However, I didn't know Hitler was a Mormon

Han Solo

this article was on www.lewrockwell.com one of my favorite sites.


The Failed War on Terrorism
by Anthony Gregory
by Anthony Gregory

       

The savage attack in London, for which al Qaeda has reportedly taken credit, is just one more indication that the War on Terrorism is not working.

Just recently, the Bush administration cancelled the publication of the annual "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report, which would have embarrassingly revealed that major terrorist attacks worldwide increased from 175 in 2003 to 625 in 2004. The War Party has been arguing for almost four years that the Bush administration's War on Terrorism has reduced the number of terrorist attacks throughout the globe, but all data seem to demonstrate an increase.

The most loyal Terror Warriors weren't even shaken by the leaked Rumsfeld memo of October 2003, which candidly and simply conceded the most basic limitations inherent in the U.S. government's bureaucratic central-planning approach to wiping out global terrorism:

Today, we lack metrics to know if we are winning or losing the global war on terror. Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?

Does the US need to fashion a broad, integrated plan to stop the next generation of terrorists? The US is putting relatively little effort into a long-range plan, but we are putting a great deal of effort into trying to stop terrorists. The cost-benefit ratio is against us! Our cost is billions against the terrorists' costs of millions.

This all made perfect sense, and was refreshing to see coming from the Secretary of Defense. Terrorism is a tactic, "a form of action available to virtually any determined adult anywhere anytime," as Robert Higgs once wrote. For this reason, a "War on terrorism... can be only a figure of speech." And it can only be a failure. Short of wiping out the human race, all the nuclear bombs in the world and preemptive strikes until the end of time cannot prevent what happened in London. Only by looking at the Western policies in the Middle East to which this fundamentalist violence is a response do we have a chance of isolating our countries from such hostility.

Many have warned that the War on Terrorism, and especially the Iraq war, would only augment the threat of international terrorism, serving as just the example of genuine grievances that such maniacs as bin Laden need to gain followers and garner support in dollars and lives. Some Middle Easterners certainly hate Americans and Westerners for no reason other than our cultural identity. But they become folk heroes only when the Osamas of the world have such incidents of imperialism as Shock and Awe to point to.

The horrific atrocity in London is simply the latest and most pronounced incident of the terrorism incited by the War on Terror, at least since the attack in Madrid. When the Spanish were attacked, they did the wise thing. They pulled out of Iraq, on schedule, and distanced themselves from the belligerent U.S. foreign policy of perpetual war for its own sake. They did not shy away from the principle of justice for actual terrorists, only from a policy of cyclical violence guaranteed to make matters worse.

How horrible it is that innocent Britons would pay for the crimes of their own government and the U.S. government of which London is one of the most loyal satellites. The victims were not responsible for what their government had done, but thanks to the unfortunate realities of partisan democratic politics, the hawkish Blair was reelected and the English State has continued to side with the U.S. State in its terrible foreign misadventures.

And yet, like clockwork, we can expect calls for redoubling the efforts to solve Islamic terror with State terror, to vanquish this fanatic violence with well-calculated and engineered violence of our own. As far as the warmongers are concerned, any apparent decline in terrorism is a great reason to continue the war, the only better reason being if the war is utterly failing to reduce terrorism at all.

We will likely also hear another argument riddled with bloody paradoxes. In the midst of this bloodshed we will hear about the tragic loss of innocent life and the preciousness of every victim of the attack. But if Britain considers pulling out, as Spain did, we will likely hear that such loss of life is the price "we" must all pay to maintain international order and ensure the progress of the civilizing forces of the Global War on Terror. The British will be accused of being wimps, as were the Spanish when they decided that the hopeless project in the Middle East was not worth any more Spanish blood – and as were the French and Germans when they decided from the beginning that they had had enough war in the past and did not need any more unnecessary militarism just to please a hyper-powerful bloodthirsty Uncle Sam. And so the attack described today as being beyond the sensibilities of all civilized people, and thus warranting an amplified campaign of Anglo-American aggression against Arabs and Muslims, may tomorrow be shrugged off nonchalantly as the price great Empires must pay in the blood of "their" subjects for the benefit of leading the world to a Brave New future.

These words are not unpatriotic in any real sense, nor do I mean the least bit to slight those whose loved ones were murdered in Britain. Like the thousands of innocents who died in New York on September 11, 2001, the nearly two hundred who died in Madrid on March 11, 2004, and the tens of thousands who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since even before the official War on Terror began, they were all victims of aggression, mass violence and insanity. It is never right to attack innocent people for the crimes of a guilty few. Never. Nor does it ever bring about the end of violence always promised of it. This truth applies to the War on Terrorism just as it applies to the terrorist attacks conducted by Muslim extremists, for there is no moral or practical reason to support either type of violence. The cycle of bloodshed will only continue now, but it is largely up to the British people whether or not the role of their own government in the cycle will be greater or lesser than it has been.

The real triumph of civilization is the extent to which coercion is banished from human relations. Brute force is not our salvation, especially as directed by State central planning and done so with little regard for the innocents who inevitably die in warfare. Such violence did nothing to save the innocents who died in London, nor can it do anything to bring those people back or solve the underlying problem

Han Solo

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject:  

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Hi:

I always find this is a time to reflect on the horrors of the devices we have invented called bombs and the devastation and destruction they cause. When people in the UK vote to engage in a war, that war entails the dropping of bombs in some foreign land. Bombs that wreak death and destruction, blowing innocent women and children to bits with rockets, grenades, mines and a plethora of other weapons to boot.

Of course, it's "easy" for a militarised, dehumanised automaton to push a button from several hundred miles away and a guided missile does the dirty work.

None of us get to see the real images of the bodies blown apart in any event.

A child reduced to mere shards of flesh and bone, and blood seeping into the earth; a mother weeping over a charred piece of flesh that was once her child's face. It is all very remote and unreal. But to the people who are impacted by this kind of action it is very real. They have loved ones as well. They care just as much for their children as we do, and we cannot keep sending bombs over to the "other side" and expect these people to keep on taking it.

There are no justifications for the actions that took place yesterday, just as there are no justifications, IMO, for the actions initiated from "our" side. But, of course, when it's "us" planting the bombs from the comfort of our cosy western enclave, perhaps most of us believe the end justifies the means. Well, I'm suggesting the "other side" kinda feel the same way.

Myself, I am dearly hoping that this will signal the end of the British public's support for the military actions in Iraq. Quite simply, if we keep supporting acts of terror then acts of terror are going to keep befalling us. We will have to see that connection one day. Preferably sooner rather than later. There will be those who will no-doubt be calling for "revenge" but this is a time for great compassion and restraint, a time to reflect on British military actions thus far and realise, once and for all, that war is not the answer.  

Great post Frank.  People have to finally realize that OUR governments are to blame.  We always stick our noses into other people business and prop up dictators in these countries as long as the oil flows, or we have some sort of influence over these leaders.  We proped up Alkaida and Sadamm when it benefited us, and when these leaders eventually turn on us we try to remove them and this cycle of violence continues.  We never seems to learn from history, you can ONLY have peace with peace.  Where are the bombs blowing up in Switzerland?  The War on Terrorism means there will be more terrorism.  

There is a GREAT talk show that is discussing this disaster in a thoughtful way, finally.  www.freetalklive.com  (It is in the archives section on the right side of the page.)

In all, I feel sorry for the UK citizens that have to suffer through this tragedy, but I also feel sorry for the innocent civilians in the Middle East that have to suffer throught this thoughtless war.

Han Solo

One of THE most important works in American History is "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine.  It was instrumental in bringing about the American Revolution.

Read it here:
http://www.constitution.org/tp/comsense.htm

Han Solo

That's what I thought about your limited projections... try 17yrs and having over thousands of projections and then come back to me and say there's nothing to fear... "You will be afraid

I think you misunderstood me.  I believe (not really "believe" but whatever) in Franks theory on Focus 2 and the "Astral".  Focus 2 is within you and not outside, so therefore "negs" are thought creation and can not harm you.  I too have been the "Astral Warrior" killing all negs in sight and being afraid "sh*tless", untill I read Frank's theory.  Now, its not even an issue.

Believe whatever you want, however I believe real progress is in Focus 3 and Focus 4.  Unless, you want to change subconscious belief structures in focus 2 (which is what I am working on).

17 years--congrats!  I love trying to push all you natural projectors into Focus 3, so everyone can get more knowledge.


If you have time read up on this.  Try the slats method, I am interested to hear your results.  PM me if you can.  I want to hear your Focus3 experiences and I think this post will allow you to go there.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18538&highlight=f2+f3


Han

What about eviromental issues? I think you should make a trip to the rain forest and then you will see that economy without regulation = exploitation is a fact. clean water and air are non tradable goods the market will not take care of these things.

free economy may solve some problems but it also causes some problems ( for example greenhouse effect) and you beloved America is right at the top in that aspect.

Good point, and this issue tripped me up in my beliefs until I got more information.  Specifically, the book "Healing our World".  You can read this chapter which talks about the environment here:

http://www.ruwart.com/Healing/chap8.html  (it is very short)

In the United States THE biggest polluter is the United States Government, specifically the United States Military.  The funny part is the second biggest polluter is the Environmental Protection Agency because they botch the clean up jobs and make them worse.  This is because there is no repercussion on the military or government.  Also, the government regularly gives away its "protected" area to politically connected businesses.  These businesses get this land VERY cheap because there is no competition for buying this land.

Also, much of the deforestation is due to government owning these forest.  You see, when the logging companies don't own the land they log, then they have no incentive to reforest the property.  It is like the difference between a homeowner respecting their property and tenets respecting the landlords property. Almost all of the private companies and corporations that pollute due so because it is government leased property and they will not reap the damage in terms of resale value (only IF they get caught, and usually those damages are less than the damage of loss of resale value).

Much of the new environmental laws are actually WRITTEN by the established businesses.  This is because start up competition will have to buy very expense new machinery and therefore will not be able to compete.  But don't they have to buy this machinery too?  No, they have it written into law that there machinery will be "grandfathered" in so they will not have to buy this new machinery.  

I am a Libertarian and we live by the rule "You are free to exercise your liberty as long as your liberty does not impede on another persons liberty".  So, if I have a right to clean drinking water and some company is polluting it, then they will be held responsible.  But, in today's society I usually can not be made "whole" again.  The Epa will fine this company and the government will get this money.  Unless I come down with cancer or something.

I like organizations like the Seirra Club, that buy land privately and hold the land.  This was an air tight solution for this problem until the recent ruling on eminent domain by the Supreme Court.

Then there is the liability "shield" on the corporate executives of corporate executives, but I wont get into that.


Han

Well, I sy that itrst tpc.  Myb I wl tch u smdy.

(oh come on Nay, I could't resist)

Han

Probably about a year and a half.  The only reason I posted this is because in the beginning I was the same as most people on this board.  Trying to find that magical something that will shoot me into the astral.  I spend a lot of money and nothing seemed to work, and yes I even bought crystals and the like.

I was so scared of negs that I had trouble falling asleep and when I would go into deep trance and would here voices or pops it would really freak me out.  This fear is the sole reason I had trouble projecting.

The reason I refer to Frank's Post so often is because this is the information that pulled me out of this stagnate cycle.  I guess it is a kin to telling all your friends how awesome a movie is and that they HAVE to see it!

James S-  I am open to the possibility that crystals work.   In fact, I hope they do, I love to see alternative medicine gaining footholds in modern medicine.  All I was saying is that this most likely won't be the magic bullet that shoots people into the astral, and that they should probably save their money if they are on a tight budget.  You have most Definitely seen results using crystals in healing and I don't doubt this claim.  I was referring more on the AP level of things.  Sorry chap.

Han

Yea, I was talking more about the speedy demon (edit* that was in another post of yours....oops)   Also, don't take what I saw as Gospel because I have only been to Focus 2 and Fz. I have never been to Focus 3, but will someday.  

Also, I am willing to shed my current beliefs if what I verify on my own differs from those beliefs.  That in my opinion is the only way to find truth, and I think that is why we are all here.

han

Last night when I wrote this I edited my post at the bottom, but my laptop ran out of batteries before i could post it.

So, today I was going to finish this post, but forgot.

I wrote that I was slap happy and just messing around, and that no one should take my opinion seriously because I have never personally tried them.

Just kidding bro,

Han

You talk about theorie, things always work in theorie but do they work in reality?

EVERY single day the "theory" of economics is verified (not new school political economics however).  Time and time again.  Economics IS reality.  The US became the greatest nation on earth due to these principles, but now socialist and fascist are deteriorating this great nation in both social and economic capacities.


I just wish the United States would follow the Constitution and be a Neutral country like Switzerland.

"War is the health of the State (government)"--Thats why governments love to use it.

Also your argument that nobody has to work in a job he doesn't like is completly shallow. What if you have 3 Kids are single parent and the only job you find is working for Burgerking? open 24 hours a day? you can life in that world I do not want to

Why does she have 3 kids if she can't support them?  The reason in America is due to the Social Welfare System.  They are rewarded for having children, also if there were NO GOVERNMENT safety net then people would be more conservative in thier social life.  They would finally realize that actions have consequences.  

Another point, in America we have TONS of charitable organizations that would fill this need.  We are one of THE most generous nation on earth, http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2003/10/remittance_fact.html, and helping others is what makes us human.  When money goes to the Government welfare system only 15% actually gets to the people who need it, and the rest is squanderd by ineffecient government.  It has been shown that 33% of US welfare benefits are fraudulent.  On the flip side, private charities give 75-85% of the money they recieve to the participants.  Usually they dont JUST GIVE the money to these people either, the participants have to SHOW they are trying to help themselves out of their situation.  Every hear the pharase "Give a person a fish and it will feed him for one meal, teach that person to fish and he will never again go hungry"  

Where does the family fit in with this picture.  In recent times the family has been deteriorating because people look to the Government to solve their problem, and rarely turn to their own flesh and blood.  Likewise, the family instead of helping them referrs them to the Many government programs they can use/exploit.  And we all know how those government programs where funded, right?  Thats right, sticking a gun to my head in order to pay for their ineffecient stupid programs.  Thats not compassion, thats theft at a point of a gun.

Agree to disagree,  that is also part of being a human.  however, I wish one day people wouldn't have to point guns at one another in order to coerce them into following their path.

I don't know what you consider to be the ultimate free market but I guess US- market is definitely less regulated then the Swiss market. so, following your argument the employees in US should have a better life then the ones in Switzerland. Do they? What procentage of People in US earns more then 3000$? compare that to Switzerland.........I do not know it but I would be surprised if the average US citizens earns more then the Swiss.

Actually, Switzerland and the United States are tied for 12th freest economy in the world.  Luxembourg, your neighbor, is the 3rd freest economy in the world and has the highest GDP per capita in the world.

Data found at:  http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/countries.cfm

Government is force,
Han

I have had many dreams which I can clearly recall that involved meeting with deceased relatives

This is a sticky situation, because from what I have learned (I have not experienced this myself) that people have strong bonds with realitives, so this may have been a valid focus 3 overlay experience.  You will have to find out for yourself when you get into focus 3.

Han