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That tends to happen a lot when I talk to people.

If you're into Icke and Jones, you should check out some of these alternative archaeologists that lend a lot of substance to Icke's claims especially (reptilians and ancient aliens).  Obviously people like Hancock, Hoagland (Mars and the Moon), Sitchin (RIP), Erickson and Childress, but also some of the less "conspiracy related" people like Bauval, Dunn, Cremo.  Cremo specifically wrote a great book called "Forbidden Archaeology" that paints a convincing picture for the real antiquity of modern humans and civilization.  When you start to put the research that these people do together with conspiracy researchers, a very telling picture emerges.  Seems like these guys (demons/aliens - though I believe them to be humans or something like us, certainly our ancestors in some form) have been around for a while and are up to their old tricks.  Also, if you liked Icke's new book, you should read "Dark Mission" by Hoagland and Bara.  There is a lot of information not only about the occult/nazi/magician control of NASA, but also about structures on the moon and mars.  The moon stuff is especially interesting, particularly the evidence for giant glass domes covering large "craters".  There is also a really good article on Hoagland's website (www.enterprisemission.com)about the ESA (European Space Agency) stating that Mars' satellite Phobos is not only hollow, but seems to be potentially artificial.  That's a space agency saying that, not just some alternative researcher. 

90% of the so-called "overdose" victims have less than 40% of a regular dose in their system. So the overdose myth is clearly wrong. The problem with almost all morphine-type drugs are that they can make the heart stop at completely random points, even on football athletes!

Sorry Pauli, you're kind of wrong here.  The reason for most overdoses has nothing to do with exceeding "safe" amounts of the drug (which you are right about).  Here's what happens.  An addict is a very habitual person, in many more ways than are apparently obvious.  Since this is heroin related we'll use that as the example.  The human body is a magnificent machine that is capable of taking in information from sensory cues and then predicting the subsequent effects of some stimuli.  This is simple classical conditioning.  An addict tends to use their drug in the same set and setting every time.  Very rarely does their location and company change when they are shooting up.  So, after extended amounts of use, these sensory cues get programmed into the brain/body in such a way that the body knows when the addict is about to pump the body full of opiate.  In an effort to counterbalance the imminent introduction of opiate, the body releases hormones and neurotransmitters to counteract the effects of the drug.  This is one of the reasons that an addict has to use more and more drug.  The body is taking preventative measures to help lessen the effect of the drug on the body (like depressed breathing and slow heart-rate with heroin).  So as long as the addict continues to use in the familiar set and setting, they are probably going to be fine and won't overdose (unless they do an ungodly amount of their drug) because the body has seen the cues and knows what's coming and therefore takes the appropriate steps to lessen the effect of the drug on the body.  Now, the #1 cause of overdose (which I know from not only overdosing [in which I used a significantly less amount than I normally did in a shot, but I was in an unfamiliar location], but from university classes on physiology and substance abuse, as well as from drug education programs in rehab for heroin addiction) is the addict using their drug in the normal amount that their body is used to, in an unfamiliar set and setting.  When the addict uses their drug in a place they haven't really used in before and with people and other environmental cues that they haven't used with before, their body doesn't get the cues it needs to start counteracting the imminent introduction of opiates.  So the addict continues to cook up a normal sized shot and inject it.  However, now there are little if any bodily defenses up to protect the body because your brain/body never got the signal that this was coming.  SO what was a normal shot for that addict becomes lethal because the body isn't doing anything to lessen those effects.

Sometimes an overdose is just an overdose, where the addict just did too much (which I have done using I.V. Cocaine numerous times).  But more often than not an overdose happens because the addict was out of their element and their body wasn't prepared for what was coming, even though the actual dose would have been far from lethal in normal circumstances (normal for that addict).

On a side note, I'm surprised that so many people found my explanation for this guy and the afterlife so objectionable (coming from me).  I mean, what's the simplest answer to the question "what happens when we die?".  We're dead.  Dead and gone.  Scientifically, that makes the most sense (that our energy is reabsorbed in a different form, but our personality is lost).   From a philosophical/spiritual perspective, banking on an afterlife seems detrimental to personal growth to me.  There may be an absolutely glorious afterlife in which I retain full consciousness and personality just as I know it in this life.  I may learn all the secrets and mysteries of reality and more than that I'll be able to completely comprehend all of them.  I don't know.  What I do know is that I'm alive right now and that is about all that I'm really sure of.  So why should I speculate about the possibility that my personality/consciousness will continue after my body is dead when I have a perfectly good life that needs to be lived now?  I find it interesting that when I was at rock bottom and deep in opiate addiction, I was 100% positive that there was an afterlife.  Now that I'm sober and have grown considerably (and matured), I'm not so sure about an afterlife.  But more than that, I don't really even think about it anymore.  I'll definitely find out some day because aside from being sure that I'm alive now, I am also sure that one day I will die and I am excited to see what happens.  But until then, this life is more than interesting enough.

Bad things happen because you invite them to yourself and then choose to perceive them in that way. 

That question is the telltale sign of either a naive, but genuinely curious person, or someone stuck in victim consciousness, which is someone who chooses to always see their lives as happening to them instead of them happening to it.  this is the state of powerlessness.  instead of asking why bad things happen, ask why you see things as bad.  furthermore, ask yourself if you weren't really requesting such a "bad thing" to happen in some way.  metaphysics aside, we tend to find what we look for.

oblivion.  non-existence.  dead, done, over.  the same fate awaits you all.

obviously i can't know that for sure, but when you bank on an afterlife, you wind up wasting your life in addiction or some other way.  trust me on that one.  so for all it matters, he no longer exists.  the energy in his body is reabsorbed into the earth and he is no more.

Hi funeral,

I'm very interested in conspiracy research, as well as many alternative fields (alternative history/archaeology/anthropology, alternative science, ancient aliens, ancient advanced civilizations, etc. - but i study these things from a scientific point of view and rarely a metaphysical one) that go hand in hand with at least UFOlogy (I don't really know many people that study demonology anymore).  I hope you find what you seek here.

Welcome.

PR

They are one and the same to me.  Dissociation in a psychological sense (as in multiple personalities, or something to that effect) is a form of astral projection where instead of exploring other realities with "your" consciousness, you explore a reality with a different consciousness.

In my opinion, the words are "literally" meaningless.
What the mantra does for you is focus your intent upon your goal.  Nothing more, nothing less.

It works because you choose to make it work.

Take that same intent that you use to say those words... and say any gibberish phrase.  You'll find the same will work too.

"Steak potato apple orange gorilla"... that would work just as well as long as you placed the same intent behind it.

I have to address your cynicism right quick.

You ought to study some theoretical physics and electromagnetism.  I've been reading some stuff lately that might imply significant properties of acoustics, properties that could have a measureable impact on the mind and body.  Specifically, I've been reading a completely unrelated (to this topic) book, by Joseph Farrell, about the possibility of Giza being a weapon.  But in the course of explaining the theory, the author has pointed out some things that make me contemplate the effect of sound waves in more detail.  There was one particular part about using two different waves to cancel out and utilize the difference between them.......hemi-sync anyone? 

A mantra may be the remnants of a lost technology.  We may not understand the physics behind the tonal qualities, but that doesn't mean that there isn't something deeper happening than just "focusing".

Also, a woman taught me a mantra that I like,

"Nam-[Myo-Ho]-[Ren-Ge]-Kyo"

I don't know what it means.  The syllables in brackets are said together.

This isn't really the audience that requires explanations of trance states.  While we all certainly argue about the details, we are all pretty familiar with trance states, as well as the fact that trance isn't just a musical genre. 

Aside from you facing your own fears (shadow self) and interpreting that as malevolent entities, kudos.

There are "salons" that offer flotation/isolation tank sessions.  They tend to charge between $50-$120US for about an hour or so.  Ideally you would want your own.  They aren't terribly difficult to build (Joe Rogan built one) if you can afford it.  I think it could be done for a couple hundred dollars US.  If you Google "Isolation (or Flotation) Tanks [your city]", you should be able to find one of these "salons" in your area, at least to give it a try and see if you're interested in building one.  I'm not 100% on this, but I believe John C. Lilly invented the flotation tank and used it primarily under the influence of LSD and other "hallucinogenic" drugs.  He is a psychiatrist who has spent many years studying consciousness through mind altering chemicals and flotation tanks.  Specifically there is a book that he wrote called "Programming the Human Biocomputer" that details the technical schematic of consciousness/mind that he mapped out through LSD/Flotation Tank experiences.  He further describes how that map can be utilized to help heal oneself "psychologically".  It's very dense book and at times it's difficult to follow, but it's good if you can make it through.

I suggest becoming a proficient projector before you try to go to any specific place like API.

For no other reason than it will be much easier once you are good at projecting.

It's the only way to personal truth (which is a big deal to me because I don't believe in absolute or objective truth).

It can be expressed through many different means that people might call "spiritual".

and reincarnation hasn't been proven by any stretch of the imagination.

dissociative identity disorder is usually formed as a means of protecting the "primary" personality in a traumatic situation.  the brain compartmentalizes itself so that the "primary" personality can "hide" from the trauma, while a more suitable personality (that can presumably handle the trauma) deals with the external world.

there are instances of multiple personalities related to things like schizophrenia, which wouldn't be necessarily caused by an external stimuli.

regarding D.I.D. (dissociative identity disorder - aka - multiple/split personalities) and reincarnation, it doesn't make sense for a PAST life to suddenly pop up.  but my comment speaks more to reincarnation as being a linear event (which many people seem to think of it as).  it would make more sense to me if "past lives" were really "parallel lives".  so in that case, it would be a simultaneously occurring branch off personality.  the same consciousness, just expressed under different influences.

I know what someone could invent to induce vibrations tho....

a quiet alarm that goes off after 3-5 hours of sleep and that would only go off for about 10 seconds and then turn off without you having to physically turn it off...
If you wake up to a short and quiet noise you can then lay there for a few seconds without even moving even an eyelid and your body will fall back asleep leaving you in a vibrational state....
I know this works because my son sleeps in my room and I can always induce OBEs when he makes noises in the night.

Myself and others on this forum (as well as many LD/AP instructors online such as Saltcube or Lucidology) have made mp3 tracks and computer software to function as a LD/AP alarm clock that wakes you up in odd increments early in the morning.  The principle is the same as what you describe.

learn Reiki or some other healing modality, pick up a pendulum and learn how to use it, and learn some sort of other divination system (like tarot or something) and finally, start raking in the dough.  seriously, i know lots and lots of people with a whole lot less natural talent who make bank in this profession.  even if this isn't your chosen career, it can still always be a back up.

I agree with you cat.  I too am quite disenchanted with "focus levels" (was never a super big fan).  But exteriorization doesn't really sound much better to me either.  I never thought I had a terribly complicated perspective on these issues, but neither of the previous theoretical approaches match up with my theory, which may be cause for my bias against this book. 

Honestly though, Muldoon's book (viewed as a solitary work) isn't bad.  It is a bit dense, as it is written in language that just isn't common today, but as I said, Muldoon is obviously brilliant and made a great step in AP literature of the time.  But taken in context (relative to all AP literature), it's one of the last books I would recommend to anyone as a practical guide.  But we already kind of agreed on that point. 

PR, I'm surprised by your negative comments. You must appreciate I'm sure, that in 1929, there was no mainstream, only Theosophy and Occultism.  So I'm baffled by the idea of criticising an author for not moving into a "mainstream" which did not exist at the time.

The only other alternatives to Theosopy/Occultism at the time were various branches of Eastern Mysticism, from which Theosophy was plaguerised.  You could equally criticise Oliver Fox for his book Astral Projection which was heavily influenced by Theosophy, much more so than TPOTAB. But a very good book it still is.

Muldoon was an RTZ projector and he reported things as he experienced them. In particular he describes the silver cord in detail. Why criticise him for that?  This is precisely why I recommended the book, because it talks about things which today have become unfashionable, but never the less absolutely warrant study and investigation. What if the silver cord is real?

Anyone wishing to study AP should also study the roots of the subject and TPOTAB is firmly part of those roots.

I didn't say it was inappropriate for 1929. 

I still don't find it to be a book that should be read for any other reason than nostalgia's sake. 

I'm all for mysticism, don't get me wrong, but unless you're familiar with the gamut of mystical jargon so far as to understand the common themes across traditions, this book will do more damage than good. 

I think its important to consider the time we're in and the cultural perception we are habituated too.  It's like saying that by modern IQ standards, someone like Abraham Lincoln would be mentally retarded.  Even the most brilliant explorers can be seen as painfully out of touch when thrown into someone else's world.  Muldoon is absolutely a brilliant explorer of reality, but a brilliant man 100 years ago makes little sense to the novice today.

So, bringing it back around, this is a good book to read to add some knowledge of the 20th century OBE/AP literature to your mental collection.  But it's hardly practical and I wouldn't ever tell a novice to read it. 

All that said, I wouldn't be able to say anything if I hadn't read it, so by all means, read the book.  At least if it's of no use to you, you can tell others about your take.  Plus the cover is really pretty.

that was the real reason i suggested making your own recorded scripts, to protect your mind from other people.  i didn't want to say it because i thought it would give you unnecessary concern (i don't believe there is anything to worry about, i mean they do worse through TV every day).  i record all my own scripts because i just don't trust other people.  even if they have the best intentions they still don't understand your perception and therefore your needs.  at least on your own you have control over what is said.  i would still read up on it a bit to get a good idea of how to write a good script.

i am a pisces and i don't ever get along with other pisces.  they are all too whiney and sensitive. 

i too am pretty sensitive (in so many ways, cold weather, emotions, physical ailment, intuitive and psychic impressions, etc.), but then i also have a lot of other conditioning influences (genetics, lifestyle, culture, etc.) that play a big role in how i see other people.  so in the case of other pisces i should be pretty understanding (it is a quality of the sign), but at the same time, I was raised on a farm and apple orchard, I was taught to be strong and hard, so I tend to see pisces as annoying wimps.  the point is that there are sooooo many other things that influence who you are.

anyway, stookie is 100% right.  your sun sign is at best a point of reference to understand how all of the other celestial bodies impact you.  unfortunately sun sign astrology has taken hold in pop culture and misleads a lot of people.  you should go see an astrologer.

this forum doesn't exist to solve your social drama.  using spiritual practice to try and manipulate people around you is EXACTLY why we don't have any legitimate religious or spiritual practices.  not to harp on you, it's not your fault that you don't know what you're getting into, but i highly suggest thinking about your intentions and the truth in your heart before you try to undertake a practice to achieve what you're asking.

really?  i thought that book was the biggest piece of spiritualism/theosophist garbage i've ever read.  i mean, i know what it is and i understand the significance of that book (being the first of it's kind, the first book for the public on the topic of AP), but muldoon didn't do a good job of taking AP out of the occult and into the mainstream.  it's full of arbitrarily ambiguous jargon.  plus, he perpetuated the silver cord mess.  i don't know, i just didn't find it to be a particularly useful book.  i rarely find myself outright bored and tired of any book, especially not AP books.  but this book just made me not want anything to do with the whole topic.  i was relatively turned off to AP/OBE for a short time after reading it.  it was that offensive to my interest.

but to each his own i suppose.  i guess that if it were really a bad book it wouldn't still be around.....

I MET A GUY WHO CHEATED ON ME.... AND I FINED OUT THAT HE WAS GOING OUT WITH SOME OTHER GIRL .. I WANT FOR HIM TO ONLY HAVE EYES FOR ME? WHAT CAN I DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH OUT OPENING DOORS TO ANY EVIL SPIRIT?...

Your lack of understanding what you're asking means that no one should help you in this regard.  People who try to fool with magic without knowing what they're doing just end up hurting themselves in the end.  If you are serious then I recommend researching what you're trying to do before asking random people on an astral projection forum how to can a love spell (which is kind of a ridiculous notion in the first place).  It's just stupid to try and make one person fall in love with you.  You can easily cast a love spell to attract love to you, but to try and make a specific person love you isn't going to happen if they don't want you.  A love spell will simply help you find the person who actually does or will love you.  You're fooling with your reality and you'd do well to know how to do that properly.

yes.

hypnosis is essentially the same state of mind required for projection-like experiences.  i would say that hypnosis usually floats around alpha state, but you can absolutely go deeper. 

the most effective use would be the creation of your own scripts and recordings (your subconscious loves the sound of it's own voice).  there are authors though that have written books providing hypnosis scripts for various nonphysical activities.  i might recommend bruce goldberg. 

has he trademarked said name?

if not, go ahead.

you misunderstood.

You don't need to create a conditioned relationship with the artificial vibrations.  I'm saying that by sheer virtue of being a similar sensation (you know, like little albert and white furry things), artificial vibrations could trigger a response in the brain that would normally arise at the presence of natural vibrations.

i want to make sure this is clear because i don't know how the new breed of AP/OBE-ers here at the pulse understand what vibrations are and do.  they don't do anything and they are nothing.  feeling vibes is not a definite sign that you are going to have a conscious exit.  some people feel them and some dont.  vibrations do not cause or induce anything.  they're just there.  but, many people do feel them every time they project, so it would stand to reason that the brain naturally creates a conditioned relationship (in this context that really just implies an expectation that when vibes happen, conscious exit is soon to follow).  so, it makes sense that if you were to apply a similar artificial vibration that it could trigger that expectation of conscious exit being imminent, which could bring about the right state of mind to project.

with that said, i'm not saying this is a legit exit technique.  i'm not even saying that it will work or that anyone should try it.  if someone did try it, the only way that it could really work is if you were able to identify the common point in your practice that vibrations occur, say they usually come after 30minutes of meditation, or you always wake up around 4am vibrating.  you would then have to find something that vibrates that you could put on a timer that would turn on as close to those times as possible.  even then, it's a long shot.  but in principle, the idea is sound.