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quote:Originally posted by Remal

Ok I have had lucids dreams 5 to be exact or what I can remember and in four of them I tried to fly. This seems to be the hardest crap to do someone please give me some way that would help me fly in a lucid dream. I just jump,jump and jump. Now something I was able to do in one was run my head through a concrete wall over and over agian that was preety fun.

There is a trick that is in astral dynamics that can help you get started with flying if your having troubles. what you do is feel and imagine as if your surrounding environment is being pulled past you. This works really well because we dont have much of a frame of reference to what flying would be like since we cant naturally do it. BUt we do know how it feels like to be in motion and by emulating those conditions while oob or in a lucid seems to work.

people who do remote viewing usually enter a trance state and get little tastes or flashes of a target and write that or say outlound what they are seeing.

The target maybe experienced in the same way hypnogognic imagary is experienced, sometimes youll only get a flash or taste of someimagry during the hypnogognic state. the hard part is that hypnogognic imagry can be somewhat random and might not have anything to do with a target but then again a successfull hit on a target often seem random as well. for example you may get a flash of a needle which is random and later find out the target was a picture of the empire state building.

Ophiel's book is pretty good, one of the first occult practical books on AP(that i know of at least). If his methods arnt working for you why not take a look at Robert Bruce's book. its a bit more thorough.

quote:Originally posted by Frank

Originally posted by kiauma

Hi Frank,  []

I think Rastus makes a good point about the test being meaningless when you can just get on with your non-physical work.

I dont think its meaningless at all to test reality in the way Nemo mentioned. even better if its done under a rigorous protocol. Gives you a chance to explore applications.

sounds interesting. Ill check it out.

i ate some icecream once in a lucid dream, it was deliscious, the taste was felt through my whole body

quote:Originally posted by amazonite

Ever since I've been working with energy I get TONS of headaches. When i stopped working with energy for a while I stopped getting so many headaches.  Does anyone know why this is happening?

hi amzonite,

headaches tend  to  happen when there is excess heat in the head area. generally energy  raises and if you dont consciously gather it in a section that is optimized for storage it can linger in the upper areas and cause headdaches. what you can do is during the last couple minutes of energy work brush energy down to the navel/subnavel area  andd feel it gather around there. The idea is to draw any excess heat from the upper sections down to lower ones where they can be recycled and stored safely. One way of doing this is to feel as if your brain itself is melting down out of your skull and into the navel area, this can leave the head nice and cool.

another thing you can try is to very lightly brush with your hands from the top of your head to your navel area and then mimic the sensations gradually going deeper inside your body down to the navel.

i put a glass cup over a thumb tack and bubble gum wrapper made into a wheel and wasnt able to get it to spin but insted the wrapper would move up and down. when i put my hand close to the glass it would move up and when i took my hand away it would move back to its orginal position. could never do it again and i have no idea how it was done since i wasnt concentrating on anything,  it would just move by itself as soon as i put my hand near the glass.

I have a cat-demon, although i usually call her demon-cat. she loves the taste of flesh especially when i try to rub her belly. SHes a vicious one she is, used to bite my big toe in the middle of the night with her razor sharp insicors and then run away. she put on a little weight now, kind of paddles across the floor on her big belly instead of running.

quote:Originally posted by Kazbadan



Ok, let me relax! Uff....now, i suppose that my fears are only based in superstions.

I suppose that if fear nothing i will not have the typical hallucinations preciding an obe...

I am correct? Is it true that "nothing bad" it is the most probable (99%?) thing to find ?


Thanks

yea fear can be a tricksy one, it has its way of beating you before you can get some real work started. it ill make you presume and look for obstacles that arnt really there. ilike to start out thinking the way is clear and if it isnt ill make it clear by concentrating on the opposite of fear, keeping courage in mind, encountering and confronting, things just tend to work out better if concentrated on courage and firmly keeping the way clear.

quote:Originally posted by Nay

Hmmmmm..looks like a dog with a really bad case of the mange..[]

Or how bout a Tasmanian Devil, with a really bad case of the mange?

Nay

yea thats what im guessing. poor little puppy someone should take him off the street[]. They called him a creature![:O]

-looks at one point for a lenghty period of time? Does one awake?

depends on why you are looking at one point for a lengthy period. if your looking at a point thinking that it ill  wake you up it could, but you can use looking at a point for a time to help root you in the astral if that is your intention too.

-looks at ones own hands? Do they melt?

yea kind of fade away in the astral/rtz but dont in a lucid dream.

-Do Numbers mutate?

i havnt looked at numbers but words i have. words in lucid can change around especially if you turn away and then look at the same words.

in rtz words will stay the same but for some reason i have to concentrate a lot to read them. then again i have to concentrate a lot to do anything in the rtz.

quote:Originally posted by clandestino
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Lets say someone sets up a playing card out of view, then projects, and records the info accurately. Imagine this is repeated several times and verified by scientists. Is it actually demonstrating that something is leaving the body, and making the observation ? or is it just demonstrating that the mind has become party to information that it required ?

Best wishes,
Mark

I like the way you put this, i had a feeling of these two contrasting ideas but coulnt quite put it into words. It does seem a possibility that rtz projections and astral projections are experienced for the most part in a body because a bulk  of our consciousness is rooted in a physical body and is used to this schema as a way of exploring our  environment. being contained to a body could be an unecessary  boundry for astral experiences as far as becoming a party to information that we want to acquire. Our real bodies could be without boundries in the sake of aquireing information in the universe and aquiring that info could be a matter of bending our consciousness in the direction of the info we want.

quote:Originally posted by beavis

Brains arent like a tv. A tv never changes its hardware, but the brains connections between neurons constantly change strength.

yeai know this is an old thread but i love talking about the brain. I think i  know what your getting at here, nueral plasticity, how the actual structure and function of the brain can be changed by the  environment and also by thought.  Its not so much the strength of the connections that make the brain have its ability to change but the number of connections and how well the nuerons are intergrated. the better the nuerons can communicate the more adaptive behaviour you will see.

quote:Originally posted by GANAMOHA

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr im so mad this lady wo published a book called the gift is telling everyone that we only have four gifts:cliarvoyance,cliaraudience, cliarsentience, and cliargustance the nerve

how dare she! she forgot clairsmelliance[!]!

Anything that you would deliberately put into your body that kills are very valuable brain cells doesnt sound too smart. Ive had friends who smoke it everyday and now they are off in space cadet city. Seeing things like that is enough feedback to know that its not enlightening.

quote:Originally posted by Veccolo

But I still think that the consciousness (as we know it) is brain-dependent.

You do have a point with this veccolo. Nuerophysiologist have shown consciousness to be located in certain areas in the brain and if those areas are damaged or removed an organism wont be conscious anymore.

There are some cases reported that individuals who have damage to the pathways for conscious perception in the temporal cortex will lose conscious perception of vision but are still  perfectly capable of seeing. That is if you were to ask someone with damage to certain areas in the temporal cortex to pick up an item off a table they would say "how, i cant see?" claiming they are blind, but after some coaxing when told to just try and pick up the item they will successfully pick it up, and when asked how they did that will say they got lucky.

Beavis,
i]Magnetism and electrcity are very closely related. if the above were true then we would potentially be able to view a magnetic field in the dark since light is not required for thier to be a magnetic field. but so far people who can view aruas at will report that they cannot see them in the dark, so in order to see them light could be required to have some kind of action on the field.
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Why was I able to move things that arent affected by magnetism (like paper) with telekinesis?

Could be another form of energy other than magnetisim that did the moving?

quote:Originally posted by beavis

Of all the things found in the brain, none of them are nearly that far evolved. They're simple. Its a primitive machine compared to the senses you describe. And I dont think that kind of sense would easily grow out of carbon atoms. ESP in the brain only is like your microwave creating a wormhole. Too complex.

I think in order for us to understand anything we sense it is going to have to be processes biologically, even what we would call our extra senses.

Lets look at auras for example:

immagine what your favorite song would smell like or what your favorite smell would  feel like to the touch. Its difficult if not impossible  to do so because our sense receptors are not specialized to interpert all forms of energy. Although they are capable of sensing all forms of energy the threshold at which it would take for you to smell sound is so high that it  will probably never be experienced by someone unless your on lsd or you have some kind of surgery where you match the sensory pathway to a different sense area of the brain.

The eyes are specialized to sense light, all incoming stimuli(energy) will be represented to us in the form of a visual image. Although the eyes are specialzed to interpret light they can interpret other forms of energy, for example mechanical energy, or touch, can and will be interpreted by the eyes as amorphus blobs of colors. if you were to close your eyes and press into them, this is the way the sense of touch looks like to us.

as far as viewing auras are concerned it could very well be  that ours eyes  are picking up some form of energy we arnt  aware  of  yet or maybe  even could  be  a form of subtle magnetic-field vision. In the same way that we can  feel a  slight  magnetic field if you put your hands close together and feel for it, auras can be a visual interpretation of the same thing.

Magnetism and electrcity are very closely related. if the above were true then we would potentially be able to view a magnetic field in  the dark since light is not required for thier to be a magnetic  field.  but so far people who can view aruas at  will report that they cannot see them in the dark, so in order to see them light could be required to have some kind of action on the field.

the brain is really quite complex, the most complex organ, and thus least understood. In stead of  having  extra senses  I wouldnt be surprrised if ESP turned out to be our regular old 5 senses struggling to interpret different subtle forms of energy.

AH! some good news about the pole shift[^] Thanks for showing that.

wow, thats pretty awsome how you were able to sense that connection. Its kind of funny when things like that happen[^]

thanks for the link mick. you can view the entire detailed article  from ny times  for free but you have to sign up, its a pretty good deal. the  arrticle  goes  into some of the details of raisiing radiation levels that would result from the shift, pretty interesting, but doesnt look like it will happen in our life time.

Sorry james please dont put a hex on me[] but i couldnt help but notice a resemblence between you and data from star trek.

I havnt gotten any cracking up in the crown but a definite pushing around can happen, it more so happens on its own though while im asleep and the intensity of the pushing around wakes me up enough from sleep to observe it.

I would say the cracking could be some channels opening up from the areas where there has been cracking and snapping going on. with me it felt almost as if the energy was pushing up against a membrane of resistance. The pushing eventually was stronger than the membrane and would snap it open, can be a little painful, like getting shot with a rubberband.

There tends to be some physical benefit(sometimes detriment) from the snapping/cracking experiences. I once had the dense intense energy come down through the brow and into what felt like my nose and sinus cavities. All the while i heard this loud cracking as if the bones were moving and this time it was VERY painful. When it had all ended i thought my nose was broken. Everything was fine though, and i was able to breath more nicely than before, sense of smell is a bit better since that day too. Anyways i like hearing about similar experiences so keep me informed about things like that from your side[]

ooohhh and old copy. can you send it to me via Private message or maybe in a new post on this thread. It would be interesting to see how it has changed over time.

quote:Originally posted by Mike17

 i mean how cool would an automatic vibe trigger be?)

ok here is one way to do it:

get nice and cozy and sleepy on your back in bed, wind down and start letting yourself fall asleep but keep a part of your mind on a falling sensation or raising sensation, which ever suits your fancy. In the beggining use some good effort to get the momentum of the dropping or raising sensation going there will come a point where it will start to intensify on its own. This can happen while you are diliberatly sensing the dropping/raising happening or later as you are drifting off, more often with me as i am drifting off. When the raising/dropping sensation happens on its own get ready for some vibes and POP.