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Messages - David Warner

#1401
make sure that you shred the paper that you write everything down, otherwise you wouldn't want mental identity theft..:)

but I do like what you suggest. it is good to write what you are thinking, it does allow one to let out the thoughts, worries, cares and organize them.

i think the act of throwing it away is symbolic. starting a new, getting a fresh lease on starting over again..

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#1402
my biggest nightmare when I dream is when I was at band camp...:)

actually, believe it or now I was in the marching band and I still every now and then I have dreams in the band room with my fellow band geek friends. either playing music, or being tested by the instructor...

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#1403
Catmeow,

Yeah, I know what you mean about the reflection in the mirror looking younger. What really blows me away is a lot of times I will be in a dream and see braces on my teeth which I once had back in the day. I will start pulling the braces out and teeth will fall out along with pulling on the upper roof of my mouth coming out too with blood everywhere. I will then look into the mirror and can see inside of my head.. Its kinda of nasty.. Just don't know why I keep having these every so often.

Anyways, I have no plans on cross dressing - just not my gig. My might wear my wife's bra and panties every now and then to get in touch with my feminint side..:) j/k

Have you ever traveled into the mirror? I've done that on occasion and that's when everything gets bent out of shape, twisted and alternate reality for sure...

Tvos
#1404
Fun,

Def-finite a good way for verification especially when other people are around and active. Usually, when we project is during the night, morning or naps by ourselves, but if we can be in a room with crowded people that's even better.

I should take a class for the fun of it in the morning and experiment. Kinda of miss those good ole days!!!

Tvos
#1405
James,

Do you think it necessary all the time to cleanse after during every full moon or ever other month? Is it just because of the energy that builds up thru thoughts, emotions, etc..etc.

Tvos
#1406
wow that's interesting.. kinda of makes you wonder why it wasn't your time, not that i would want to see you or anyone time expire here on earth, but what God has in store for you.

what are your thoughts on this?

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#1407
Chrishill,

Depends on the hypnogigic state and the experience. I've had at times where my mind awakes and the vibes hit me so hard that I freeze and I  just can't move at all which brings terror and a unpleasant start to projecting. Other times, if the vibes are relaxing I can easily slip out gracefully.

On occasion when I return it might take a little bit to re-align into my physical body. I can definitely feel and sense the alignment taking place and the two bodies coming together. Usually, during this process its a natural feeling and there's no paralysis.

Hope this helps..

Tvos
#1408
did you find yourself in the classroom or at home? mine where in the classroom and at home... sometimes, i would have my head in my arms folded but i would be looking up in the room - then a few seconds later i would realize that i was seeing with the 3rd eye..

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#1409
Funinfloating111,

I was going to go thru your posts but saw there were alot of pages to scramble through. in a nutshell what happened?

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#1410
James,

If I'm wearing my quartz and amethyst crystal around my neck. Should I still ever month under the waning full moon cleanse the crystal?

What do you suggest?

Tvos
#1411
James,

Thank You for the advice and I appreciate it. I've talked with other people on crystals - some say its crazy, some take them into faith. Its all preference and what works. But I can see you are definitely knowledgeable and a great person!

Ben,

You state in your profile you play guitar. What educational level are you at with guitar? novice, average,or pro? What is your background with the instrument? Have you taken theory, how did you learn, what guitar picks do you use, did you have an instructor. How much do you know about transposing, or composition writing? What are the tools that got you there? Lets say you started playing on a $50. cheap guitar - would you have achieved that level of respect playing on a $8,000.00 guitar.

I'm a classical and electric guitarist. I compose/write/perform my own  material and do a lot of session work with other musician via internet. I've been through the theory training, composition writing etc..etc. What I am getting at is the tools we use to achieve our level of success will differ from each other. - The same goes with astral projection - its all about what works for one doesn't mean it will work for the other.

Since I've bought my crystal amethyst pendant, I have seen a little more activity in my dreams, being able to recall better. Could it all be coincidence or genuine - what ever! Its fun, I'm having a good time with it and at least I am having some positive results.

I do like your approach of being objective but you also have to give other mechanics to astral projection it a chance.

Tvos
#1412
Major Tom,

I made sure that I had some major watermelons there and fishnet stocking...:) j/k - Actually, it wasn't' something that I was trying to achieve or do - it just happened when I looked into the mirror and I didn't see my reflection, it was a woman's reflection. I looked back a couple of times and the view was the same and nothing changed.


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#1413
Ben,

Anything in life comes with a price - if its losing weight, studying for a test, learning how to drive a car. What are the side effects and will it hurt me or propell me? What are the causes of effect, are there any dangers involved etc...

On a percentage of experiences, I would pro bally say that 95% of my experiences are positive, beautiful, breathtaking and enjoyable. The other 5% its inevitable where you will come across entities that are bad and mean harm. I've been in some real tough heart thumping situations
where I never thought I would be back. I've had starred the monster in the face as it said to me "take my hand and be a part of us" and have been attacked. But I am still here!

My question to you is this - I was just listening to audio interviews with Robert the Bruce (gotta love the name). He states that people who are under psychic attacks as like him or he's helped. Do you think they are making all that up?

Tvos
#1414
Ben,

I do appreciate the info about the crystals - what side effects are you talking about?

Secondly, you are right about the 17yrs - its a long road for projecting and I do agree with you on alot of what you say. To me its not how many times one projects, but its the quality and what is being learned. I know it sounds like sometimes I come off the man with the experience, but it actuality I still consider myself a novice.

I came across AP back in 1988 who a friend introduced me and I started reading up on it. I pursued it whole heatedly with fire and conviction to see if it was real or not. I did get my answer within less then two months. After that, I tried different methods to see how I was getting out- pyramids, crystals, food, exercise, etc...etc.. But after awhile when I became fluid and I realized it was just 'me' doing all the work.

I do believe to a degree that alot of what I mentioned earlier did help along the way with practice, but it was the work being put fourth that gave me the success. I never followed any kinda of occult, new age or anything of the sorts. Before 1988 I had exp. projections but on a quick small scale and never payed attention. Also, it was the feelings behind it that I did project that it started to come to me.

I've had my exposure to entities, some pleasant and some I wish not to remember. But I do realize and understand in my experience that I'm shown things for reasons.  What kinda of b.s. would you say that I need to let go off?

Please be more specific.

Tvos
#1415
why of course i shape shifted physically.....:) sorry if I confused you, but do I still get the $1 million dollars..

btw: what have you changed to in the astral? hopefully, not a smurf.. hehe

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#1416
Catmeow,

You mean that you never tried to turn yourself into something else in the astral? I've at times turned myself into a eagle, a blueberry smurf (don't ask why!), and a woman.

Think about it - if you can melt your hands, cut off your arm, or pull your upper part of your mouth out - whats the difference in changing your appearance?

Tvos
#1417
yes.... among other things too...

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#1418
During my earlier years at projecting and reading Castaneda, I've been able to exercise a few techniques written.

Ex: turning myself into a bird, like a black eagle.
Ex: Viewing objects far away and bringing them closer w/o even moving to the object.
Ex: Seeing the luminous glow around people,objects, animals from the physical

Again, even though Carlos was under the apprenticeship of Don Juan, his writing reflected the western world of the Yaqui Indian sorcery. Earlier in Carlos teachings he was under heavy use of peyote which would break him from the modern day world.

I have had the opportunity to read all Castaneda's books. The best one which really stood out was 'Journey to Ixtlan' and  'The Power of Silence'.

You can obtain reading material from the following link. Looks like someone took the time and gave brief explanations of the books to read about. Enjoy..

http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/

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#1419
maybe famous people are easier to pick-up and identify?

what do I know - I just project..:)

tvos
#1420
Major Tom,

I do recall at times when I would look into the mirror while out of body, I notice a bluish brilliant water color with bubbles rising upward in my eyes. Also, at times I've seen the sparkle of consciousness which wouldn't surprise me since I'm real and aware.

All I know is that I wouldn't want a red eye ball looking at me. I would definitely tuck tail and run!! But anyways, it is a interesting experience about the mouse and the red mouse button.  

Tvos
#1421
i'm sure there might some sort truth to it? the famous people on tv would seem to be a little far fetched, but then again anything can happen...

I've heard or in reading that there would be a way to measure energy during the physical body separation. ?

tvos
#1422
Teal'c,

Welcome to AP and its good to see that you've questions..:) Hopefully, I can offer some suggestions.

What you need to do is trick your body and your awareness. The best method I can suggest and will take some practice and patience is to set your alarm clock a good couple hours before you awake for the day.

Set the alarm clock to go off every 15 minutes for 1-2hours. This is the part that you'll have to be disciplined in and have patience. Its easy to just say "screw it" and turn off the alarm clock completely and go back to bed. During the 15min periods, while you fall back to sleep, imagine yourself like a log spinning around. What usually happens is that your lower physical consciousness transfers to your higher awareness causing the vibrations to occur.

There will be no mistake not knowing when the vibrations will hit. Just try to be as relaxed that you can and not to get excited. Since you are still rolling in circles, imagine your whole body rolling right out of the bed and onto the floor. Sometimes, this can be tricky and concerning because its questionable will the physical body truly land on the floor or the astral. Still there's that uncertainty, but time and time again I've had no problems with this.

Once you are on the floor and out of body - try to open your eyes slowly to get acclimated to the world around you. Take everything in baby steps and stay within the boundaries of your home or close to outside if you can. You'll crawl at first but after time it will become running for you and then flying.

Everyone has their own technique and not one is wrong - what works for some doesn't mean it will work for you. read as much that you can, exercise daily with talking to people in this forum, study different authors, and have fun....

Hope this helps

Tvos
#1423
gotta love it eh!!

well back in the day when I first started to learn about astral projection I was excited, anxious and went around asking everyone if they ever left their bodies.. needless to say my classical guitar instructor replied "yes" and from there we built a great foundation helping each other and understanding more.

today, I don't do that much running around town asking people, but more a less with friends, co-workers that I know openly that I can trust without them thinking I'm crazy.

in my college days - psychology class we happened to get in the discussion of dreams and I just happened to move the discussion to astral projection. needless to say, I was for weeks explaining, giving diagrams, and answering questions on oobe.  got a 'A' in the class..:)

tvos
#1424
it reminds me of the movie 'white noise' - but hopefully without the killing... kinda of interesting and maybe something to tap into. just hope i don't have to look at static on the tv screen..:)

tvos
#1425
maybe you didn't understand my post or i worded it incorrectly.

would it be possible to record actual video of the astral plane or glimpses of it. something like in the movie poltergeist I

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