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I have a strong feeling that alot of things are going to happen in 2003. Unfortunately it probably will be close to the same stuff that happened in 2002. Get up, go to work, come home, go to bed, start over. LOL Wait that is not funny that is depressing.

James, I do not think you are the only one that feels that way, and you are probably not in the minority either. About Bush that is. There probably will be a war since he seems so hell bent on doing it reguardless of anything else.

Have you read Robert Peterson's book Out Of Body Experiences? He says that he became more aware and could see things before they would happen or just do something different that would turn out for the best after practicing AP for awhile.

Yes it is possible. I do not have a lot of time to go into great detail right now. Basicly everything Tom said is correct, relaxing and breathing. You need to also be aware of your arousal rate. You can pull your sexually energy out of your genital  area and move it to other parts of your body. The biggest thing is to move your mind away from physical lusting and ejaculating and concentrate more on the energy and sensations that you are feeling. Try being more sensual and loving. I think there was another discussion on this several months ago if you want to do a search. I suggested a book that really helped me called The Multi-Orgasmic Man, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0062513362/qid=1033390094/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-8420616-3764802?v=glance

Good Luck! And if you have any questions feel free to ask me. Maybe I will have more time to expand on this, but I think you if you search for the past discussion you will find a lot of what you are looking for.

Added: I should actually add that what the book teaches is not delaying orgasm but delaying or stopping ejaculation. The two are different things and you CAN have one without the other. The goal is to have orgasms without ejaculation. Even if you still wish to ejaculate the non-ejaculatory orgasms are very nice, better than ejaculatory,  and you learn to delay ejaculation. You will also have more energy by doing this practice.

Well I have been busy with work and my daughter so I have not had a lot of time to read alot of the posts, but I try. I do not go to school. I graduated in 1998 with an Associates in Computer Aided Drafting Technologies. Right now I am sort of looking for a better job at a different company in the same area, but I have thought about going back to school for something, possibly in the engineering field. I would kind of like to do something that actually helps people, but I am not sure what.

So what are you studying at school? What degree are you going for?

I think real death is obvious. It is when the physical body can no longer go on living. OBE and NDE are when you move your consciousness out of the physical body. If these experiences are what is after this life, well I tend to think so, but you really must decide this for yourself.

I like the onion analogy. Have you been watching Shrek or do you just like onions? http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_approve.gif" border=0>

I do not understand what it is that you can do. Could you explain.

Maybe your problem with "negs" and psychic attacks is that they are what is on your mind and what worries you. Your thoughts and emotions can influence your astral experiences. If you can change your focus and worries then you may not experience such things again. Even if you do encounter anything negative just try to remain calm and in control. Nothing can hurt you. The fact that you are trying to associate a non negative experience to something negative suggests to me that changing your focus and just accepting should help, instead of always worrying about psychic attacks.

Good Luck and welcome to the board.

Hmmm new poster, just 4 posts, all 4 posts are the same post just in different areas on the boards. Please ... If you are a ligit person I am sorry but this just looks like spam to me. I guess it was only a matter of time before they found their way on to these boards.

It is very possible to try too hard to project. I think I have had more OBEs when I was not actually trying to than when I have tried to do it. Many times I have been trying to meditate only and I will wind up feeling the exit sensations and then be out of body. I think one of the key elements to projecting is being able to forget about your physical body. I know that in the beginning, and sometimes now, what starts out as a possible projection is quickly ended if I start "feeling" for my body.This quickly pulls you right back to the physical. This can happen in two ways. One is when you are trying to project you keep checking your physical body to see if you are feeling the vibrations and if it is relaxed. This really hurts the process as it makes you more aware of your body, something you do not want to do. The other is that when you first get out it can feel, well different. For me it was just a reaction to feel for my physical body, like for something familar and secure.  Another key to projecting is to be passive. You can sit there and try pushing yourself out all day but you will likely be unsuccessful. One technique I use sometimes is to lay down and allow myself to drift close to sleep, letting my body fall asleep and keeping my mind awake. When ever I feel my mind starting to go to sleep I snap it awake, keeping my body asleep. Usually if I can stay awake after a few times of "snapping" my mind back I will find myself out of body. This process allows you to be become relaxed and passive. The danger is that it is easy to fall asleep this way, but it might be something you will want to try. Just don't try too hard and you will do it some day.

Well if it is going to be voluntary and put on the profile then you could just request everyone to state their experience level on their profile under one of the topics that allows you to fill in your personal info. This could be a good idea to give others, especially newer people to the board, an idea of the experience the person actually has. But I do not think any kind of rating system should be in place. That would just make things a little complicated, especially with the wide variety of skills and experiences there are. A little description would be better in my opinion.

I have tried but it will not let me delete the original post. It will let me edit it. That is what I did as this was actually about something else in response to another post, but then I changed my mind but it would not let me delete it.

See I will edit it again. Remember this was called Nevermind.

It seems to me that if Jesus wanted his ideas and words to live on he would have actually written something. Then again he probably knew what would happen to them, the same thing that has happened to what has been written. They would have been changed and turned into a religion.

Since all of the writings in Christianity are written by other people, is it not possible that these people added their own views into their writtings which may or may not have went along with what Jesus said. These things could have been intential or not. If a group of people witness an event, or lets say a speach, they will each have their own views on it and some may unintentially add their own thoughts to it when it was never actually expressed originally. Ever played telephone, or whatever you may call it in your region, where one person whispers in the ear of another and then they into another until the message has passed between several people. By the time it gets to the end the message has usually changed. Even in everyday life gossip can change from the original message by the time it gets around to a few people. With this in mind realize the way of life during the time of Jesus. They did not have anything to record this teachings such as tape recorders. Most people could not read or write. All of the writings have been dated back to after his leaving of this world. So everything written about Jesus and his teachings came from either the memory of people who witnessed him years before or from word of mouth. So how much accuracy can we merit these writings?

I wanted to add, I personally hope that science continues to believe that astral projection is just an illusion and can never find a way to interact with our astral bodies from the physical. Can you imagine what terrible things could happen with this in the hands of our corrupt politicians, leaders, and military?

Thank you, Frank!

I agree with James. There is no reason to be harse against science. You must realize that these are scientists and that they must go on scientific fact. So they have to start with what they know. They may well find a part of the brain associated with projecting. But sadly they will probably always see it as an illusion and not real. But being science I would have it no other way, because it needs proof to accept it. If it did not need proof it would no longer be science but a religion. I am not exactly sure how scientists could ever measure or see the astral body as I have never read anything on the physical being able to interact with the astral body. I mean people can go to the sun or be around nuclear explosions and not be effected.

This article is much better than the one in the Washington Post.

I am glad you are already almost there. Once you have projected then getting back into it usually does not take long at all. In my experience if I have been away for awhile and come back to projecting I can usually be back at it in about 2 weeks. Time varies but 2 weeks practicing for just a short amount of time every day is usually at most what it takes.

I need to try and start a dream journal as I have heard this really helps remember dreams from many different sources. I have actually been remembering my dreams for the past few days so maybe things will start getting better.

That is interesting Gandalf. Where did you find this research and can you point me towards it.

I think the problem is we have enough trouble actually find out who committed a crime or terrorist act today. How can be actually know if any one group actually did it thousands of years ago? Could very well have just been that the powers that be wanted to pin something on a certain group and did, especially if that group opposes your rule. Hard to say but I would like to see research.

Just remember that almost all, if not all, ads that promise something quickly are usually scams or not a very good way of going about doing something. Just look at all the diet ads that promise losing 10 lbs in one week. It may be possible but it is not healthy  to loose more than a pound or two a week. With all the people that are and have been exploring astral projection no one has ever came up with a way to do it instantly as Shane promises. It requires practice to be able to project. I do believe that it is possible to project instantly, but I cannot see someone, especially a skeptic, being able to project on their first try. Now that I have been nice and cynical, let me say that I would like to know what this thing is that he has claimed to discover. Maybe he has discovered something that everyone else has over looked. Maybe he is legit. If anyone is interested then go for it and report back to us.

Speaking of code and protection. I have read that the New Testiment books such as Mark, Luke, etc and the signed letters were not actually written, or most likely not written, by the disciples that the names imply. It was common practice during the time to write such text using the name of someone well know, if a name was used at all,  to keep the actual writter anonymous and thus avoid presecution, prosecution, or worse.

Something else to remember is, this like anything else requires practice. Quieting the mind is not something that you can just do, it is something that you have to practice doing and in turn will get better at it. Likewise, if you stop practicing then you will fall back into the noisy mind state and have to work back up to quieting your mind. I have learned this the hard way. So at first you may only be able to remain quiet for a few seconds. But with work you will soon be able to reach any goal you choose. Just remember to keep practicing throughout the day.

I totally understand. Been there, doing that. Though I never recall having OBE when I was young, I do realize now that I use to have some lucid dreams. This is something I have lost over time as I rarely remember my dreams now much less have any chance for controlling them. A few years ago I got into astral projection and have practiced it on and off. It is disheartening when you realize that you have allowed your astral travels to fall to the side. But sometimes it is almost impossible to stop it from happening. But it is true you never lose any ability to do it, though you will have to work to be able to do it again. I am starting that climb back up now.

It could be possible that this document has already been discovered, is it not? I mean I doubt we hear about every single finding as soon as it happens. For one, the media seems to show little interest in such things when they can be covering killings and terrorism. For another whoever might find it may wish to study it before they ever release it. Or maybe they never plan on making it public but instead take a more private and profitable path.

Sex, be it on the physical, astral, or any other plane, is what you make of it. It can be purely for surface physical pleasure, for control, to cause pain, to express love, to bond, for spiritual enlightenment, or whatever you can think of. If you go to the astral to just "get off" then that is how you will experience it. If you go to the astral for some kind of bonding, loving experience then that is what you will experience. The same applies on the physical, though it can be different and more reliant upon your partner.

The error lies in the idea that when we go to the astral, or any other plane, we are no longer ourself, as if we are entering a virtual reality that is not real. The truth is that we are ourself on all planes. What we think and do effects us in some way. I find it very unlikely that one could be the typical perfect loving mate on the physical and be a sex crazed freak with infinite partners on the astral. Your astral self is still you. It is who you are. The difference is that on the astral you are not limited to the restraints that you are on the physical. You may not have to deal with disease, what others think, or a vengeful spouse on the astral, but you still have to deal with yourself on all planes. In other words, you might see it as going to the astral to release some sexual tension, but you are also feeding these urges. You are going to the astral and thinking thoughts of others. So when you return to the physical you are still going to be thinking thoughts of others. So if you are having a problem with wanting other people other than your partner, acting on these feelings on any plane is not going to solve the problem. You need to deal with why you are feeling this and how you can change those feelings and desires to fit into what you are wanting.

As for the Egyptians buidling the pyramids, I think that they very well could have and most likely did. Just because they do not have all the wonderful building machines that we have today does not mean that they could not build such great things. If there is one thing about humans I have learned it is if there is a will they will find a way, no matter how difficult. Ancient people did some pretty amazing things all without a calculator.

How do we know that the Christian Bible that is in wide use today is Jesus's original teachings? It is most likely impossible for us to have all of his original teachings as, as far as I know Jesus never wrote any texts. Those that were written were written after his death. Most of the New Testiment was wrtten years, decades, or more after his crucifixion.

The thing that sort of upsets me is the lack of this knowledge, atleast in my area. People do not take the time to think about where their religion came from or how the written texts came to their hands, as I have explained above. I am not attacking Christianity. Just because the ideas and texts have changed over time is not really a bad thing. All things need to grow and develop. But the hiding of truth and the past as well as trying to keep the followers in a "just accept it" frame of mind seems rather bad to me. If their ideas are in fact true then they should hold up to questions and searching. It seems that they should only fear it if the religion has no strong foundation in truth.

Maybe Jesus did in fact teach such a strict diet. But I can see why it would be dropped because it is just not practical for everyone. So would this change be bad? I guess the early church tried to do the same and cut out what they felt was not practical, but it would seem that they probably left out things that would threaten their power as well. In this information age that we live it, having all the information to make our own choices seems best to me.